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stareatclouds
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: BuffGuts]
#24996070 - 02/15/18 09:33 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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BuffGuts said: Just took this photo 5 min ago. Thought I had good results with manure & c/v/g then I tried 6QT DubTub set up. Just coir, Kona coffee grounds, lil gypsum and spawm and this is whats coming out on first flush

Those look like they're dying of thirst.
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mushboy
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yah those look like they are outdoor cubes. give em a mist. they will be thrilled.
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy]
#24997357 - 02/15/18 07:46 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Tell me this... When it comes to my shoesboxes... I am getting some not so uniform growth. I have picked probably 20 or so broken veil and flat caped guys today, but there a lot of little guys.
How do you determine the first "flush"... Like when should I harvest everything and re-hydrate my substrate.. At this point I could pick a bunch each day and still have some little guys growing along side..

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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Pge405]
#24997378 - 02/15/18 07:56 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Take clones for uniformity snd dial in your surface conditions.
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proustdreams
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: JHOVA]
#24997605 - 02/15/18 10:05 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Umm...this is probably a dumb question, but are these veils tearing?

It seems a bit premature, and not nearly as developed as the other grows I've seen. Maybe a result of too much misting --> not enough evaporation? I had this shoebox dub tubbed with the top lid slightly ajar so I'm not thinking its cuz of a lack of FAE.
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You wonΒ΄t get lack of FAE in term of lack of oxygen but the higher the RH in your grow area the slower the evaporation of the substrate.
Those fruits need to mature a bit more before plucking, a day or two more. Looks good so far.
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stareatclouds
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Mateja]
#24997903 - 02/16/18 01:41 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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The fuzzy feet are an indication of low FAE. A decent rule of thumb is that when you see things doing their best to crawl way the fuck up, they're looking for more air (Ganoderma antlers are another example). And you can spot a veil tearing by literally looking at the veil and seeing if it tears. I love to harvest when the veil is stretched as far as possible without a tear. It's sexay.
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proustdreams said: Umm...this is probably a dumb question, but are these veils tearing?

It seems a bit premature, and not nearly as developed as the other grows I've seen. Maybe a result of too much misting --> not enough evaporation? I had this shoebox dub tubbed with the top lid slightly ajar so I'm not thinking its cuz of a lack of FAE.
Those are treasure coast correct? If so the caps mature but stay small cones like that. Some of my tc fruits were 7in long. The one in my hand in my sig is a treasure coast 1st flush fruit and they were found where I live
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proustdreams
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proustdreams said: Umm...this is probably a dumb question, but are these veils tearing?

It seems a bit premature, and not nearly as developed as the other grows I've seen. Maybe a result of too much misting --> not enough evaporation? I had this shoebox dub tubbed with the top lid slightly ajar so I'm not thinking its cuz of a lack of FAE.
Those are treasure coast correct? If so the caps mature but stay small cones like that. Some of my tc fruits were 7in long. The one in my hand in my sig is a treasure coast 1st flush fruit and they were found where I live 
Yup Treasure Coasts. The veils have torn, but I'm unsure because these look quite different from other mature fruits that I've been seeing in other logs.

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proustdreams
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Pge405]
#24998354 - 02/16/18 09:18 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Pge405 said: Tell me this... When it comes to my shoesboxes... I am getting some not so uniform growth. I have picked probably 20 or so broken veil and flat caped guys today, but there a lot of little guys.
How do you determine the first "flush"... Like when should I harvest everything and re-hydrate my substrate.. At this point I could pick a bunch each day and still have some little guys growing along side..


Same exact thing happening to me bruh. It just means we gotta do agar and start cloning fatties.
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proustdreams said: means we gotta do agar and start cloning fatties.
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I had fuzzy feet on some TC bottles with the lid completely off for most of fruiting.
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Mateja


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Zachsonpub said: I had fuzzy feet on some TC bottles with the lid completely off for most of fruiting.
Interesting 
The white fuzz at the very base of the stipe doesnt seem to be the same thing as when myc climbs half way up the stipe. I have noticed two different types of fuzzy feet and that in the pic does not necessarily remind me of what I assume to be signs of lack of oxygen.
My last 20-30 tubs have all been unmodified tubs and shoeboxes and I have not seen fuzzy feet once. I did see it one time when I forgot about a tub and the shrooms already started decomposing, and the fuzz was yellow.
Anyone else feel like speculating more on this?
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Mateja]
#24998917 - 02/16/18 02:27 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Mateja]
#24998925 - 02/16/18 02:31 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Mateah said:
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Zachsonpub said: I had fuzzy feet on some TC bottles with the lid completely off for most of fruiting.
Interesting 
The white fuzz at the very base of the stipe doesnt seem to be the same thing as when myc climbs half way up the stipe. I have noticed two different types of fuzzy feet and that in the pic does not necessarily remind me of what I assume to be signs of lack of oxygen.
My last 20-30 tubs have all been unmodified tubs and shoeboxes and I have not seen fuzzy feet once. I did see it one time when I forgot about a tub and the shrooms already started decomposing, and the fuzz was yellow.
Anyone else feel like speculating more on this?
I'd like to know more about yellowing of mycelium in general. I have a bacterial tub right now that has reaching mycelium, no metabolite excretions, but the top most reaching myc is yellowing.
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proustdreams
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Zachsonpub said: I had fuzzy feet on some TC bottles with the lid completely off for most of fruiting.

My shoeboxes are dub tubbed at night with the top lid slightly ajar. During the day theyβre either open air fruiting when Iβm at home, or dub tubbed with big gaps while Iβm at work. Meh.
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Quick question
I compared my shoebox setup with a buddy of mine
And he says I need some type of light
I have them in a closet and it gets some type of indirect si light through out the day
Maybe 20 minutes at the most
I have read about good results with out light
I think I read here most of you leave the boxes in the dark till harvest right
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proustdreams said: My shoeboxes are dub tubbed at night with the top lid slightly ajar. During the day theyβre either open air fruiting when Iβm at home, or dub tubbed with big gaps while Iβm at work. Meh.
Are they pinning yet?
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Alpineswift said: I think I read here most of you leave the boxes in the dark till harvest right
I don't know that I've seen anyone have their tub/box/grow in complete darkness the entire time. 12/12 cycle of direct light at pinning/fruiting, prior to that, ambient/indirect light is good during colonization.
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Never keep a live growing culture in complete darkness unless itΒ΄s for storage
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Yea they definitely need some sort of light source, ideally a 6500k light on a 12 hour on/12 hour off schedule. I've seen people mention growing them with no light but thats definitely going to give you very subpar results IMO. It helps give the shrooms a sense of direction while growing and also helps to trigger pins.
If you dont have an outlet in the closet you could buy a battery powered light. Right now im using a "tap light" that i got from bed bath and beyond. Its definitely not the ideal light, but its strong enough to get the job done and was super cheap.
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