Home | Community | Message Board


This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Mushroom-Hut Grow Bags   North Spore Bulk Substrate   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   PhytoExtractum Buy Bali Kratom Powder   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   Bridgetown Botanicals CBD Concentrates

Jump to first unread post Pages: < First | < Back | 170 | 171 | 172 | 173 | 174 | 175 | 176 | 177 | 178 | 179 | 180 | 181 | 182 | 183 | 184 | 185 | 186 | 187 | 188 | 189 | 190 | Next > | Last >
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
Invisiblestareatclouds
star eat clouds?
 Unread Journal User Gallery


Registered: 09/29/14
Posts: 9,887
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Psicomb]
    #24991858 - 02/13/18 05:05 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

I don't eat mushrooms and am unwilling to fruit non-King oysters in my house due to their dangerously high spore loads. I've done a few Lion's Mane though and thought they were delicious when I harvested them at the right time. But they're too difficult to fruit without a GH or proper outside conditions and I currently have neither.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflinePreparationH
apply daily

Registered: 03/28/05
Posts: 18,306
Loc: Amsterdam
Last seen: 10 hours, 16 minutes
Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: stareatclouds]
    #24991878 - 02/13/18 05:13 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

I have been so busy I haven't kept up much with my grows but I did make 1 last shoebox from spawn I had sitting since November.  It colonized fine and when I fruited it, 2 mushrooms grew super fast, then this whole week I was not around to take care of it.

Open it up, pins and fungus gnats fucking EVERYWHERE, probably 25 marching around, ran and vacuumed them out and shit and now I'll be around to keep a better eye :uhoh:.

Great grows, been still checking in here and there btw.  After this final shoebox I am hanging it up until summer 2019, got some business to do until then that is keeping me occupied as fuck!  These shoeboxes helped me produce and put away more than enough shrooms until then, probably enough until 2020 :lmao:

-PH


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisiblePsicomb
Male User Gallery


Registered: 01/13/18
Posts: 4,636
Loc: the womb
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: stareatclouds]
    #24991882 - 02/13/18 05:15 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Nice, I've heard lion's mane is delicious and really healthy for you too.  How did you fruit lions mane?  On some cakes?  I got a little greenhouse off amazon but haven't set it up yet.  I've never grown any edibles, but a guy I get spores from gave me some oyster LC so I said screw it and inoculated some brf cakes.  Thanks for filling me in on that, though, man..  I live in a small studio and could have ended up dumping spores all over my little ass place haha.  Definitely need to do some more reading on edibles...


--------------------

When we constantly pull things apart trying to see how it works, we may end up with only an understanding of how to destroy something
- nick sand


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisiblemushboyMDiscord
modboy
 User Gallery


Registered: 04/24/05
Posts: 32,281
Loc: where?
Trusted Cultivator
OG Cultivator
Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Psicomb]
    #24991910 - 02/13/18 05:32 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

:takingnotes:

Quote:

Psicomvb said:
Definitely need to do some more reading on edibles...




:whathesaid:


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblestareatclouds
star eat clouds?
 Unread Journal User Gallery


Registered: 09/29/14
Posts: 9,887
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Psicomb]
    #24991942 - 02/13/18 05:44 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Psicomvb said:
Nice, I've heard lion's mane is delicious and really healthy for you too.  How did you fruit lions mane?  On some cakes?  I got a little greenhouse off amazon but haven't set it up yet.  I've never grown any edibles, but a guy I get spores from gave me some oyster LC so I said screw it and inoculated some brf cakes.  Thanks for filling me in on that, though, man..  I live in a small studio and could have ended up dumping spores all over my little ass place haha.  Definitely need to do some more reading on edibles...




Lion's Mane is primarily fruited on sawdust-based substrates in bags. There's many ways to do this, but a popular method is to find hardwood fuel pellets (they prefer hardwoods) and pour boiling water in as a means of pasteurization. Google Lipa's Fuel Pellet Tek for the guide. Anyway, this allows for open-air inoculation of colonized grains. Once LM is at 100%, you cut slits in the bag and it'll fruit out of it. You need lots of FAE and high humidity, but can't directly spray them because they don't like it. A GH is optimal, but I successfully fruited a few by using an old SAB. I draped wet towels on the bottom and walls of it before shutting the lid on, raising the RH % up enough to keep them happy. Then I ran a fan on the other side of the room once every while. But this sucks because you have to keep changing the towels so if you have a GH, do that.

Yes, Google "oyster mushroom spore dangers" or something. RR developed a serious allergic reaction after a while and most commercial growers will have a high-rated mask of some sort for it. Check the gourmet section for more info. :smile:


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineSkizor1337
Trip King
I'm a teapot User Gallery


Registered: 06/19/12
Posts: 1,106
Loc: USA Flag
Last seen: 4 days, 16 hours
Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Psicomb]
    #24991993 - 02/13/18 06:06 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Psicomvb said:
Quote:

lewp said:
Quote:

Shroomymancer said:
Props to Lewp! I'm just starting my oysters and was thinking of how to pull off the shoebox method with them. Would you mind passing on your sub recipe or link?




The shoebox above is a 1:1 mix of coir and hickory fuel pellets. The 64oz and milk jug were CVG + cardboard. I never tried only CVG, but I bet it would work.  There's tons of info out there about oyster substrates and recipes. Seems like it would grow on almost anything.




That's so awesome.. I have a pink oyster lc in my fridge, as well as 10 consolidated brf oyster jars, and have been trying to think of the best way to use either of those..  I'd be interested in shoeboxin' it and seeing what happens...

Here's some AA+ spawned 1:2 to cvg
spawned 2/7:

Spawned 2/9: 




Seriously whats the deal with the oysters?

Is it a hobby grow or you actually eat those fuckers?


--------------------
100% Professional Psychonaut
Trippin' Aint Easy




Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisiblePsicomb
Male User Gallery


Registered: 01/13/18
Posts: 4,636
Loc: the womb
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: stareatclouds]
    #24992057 - 02/13/18 06:39 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Wow, thanks for all that info man. Haha that's great how you got crafty with it. I was thinking I'm gonna get a coolmist for the gh and then cut some slits in the cover. Maybe run a computer fan blowing out of it at the top or something for keep the air movin.  Definitely going to be doing some reading tonight... :takingnotes:


--------------------

When we constantly pull things apart trying to see how it works, we may end up with only an understanding of how to destroy something
- nick sand


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleZero Nowhere
Beer Drinker
Male


Registered: 01/29/18
Posts: 1,471
Loc: Standing on the moon
Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: stareatclouds]
    #24992133 - 02/13/18 07:18 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks stare


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinelewp
Seeker
 User Gallery


Registered: 06/04/17
Posts: 403
Loc: Southeast
Last seen: 11 days, 11 hours
Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: stareatclouds]
    #24992200 - 02/13/18 07:41 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

stareatclouds said:
Yes, Google "oyster mushroom spore dangers" or something. RR developed a serious allergic reaction after a while and most commercial growers will have a high-rated mask of some sort for it. Check the gourmet section for more info. :smile:




Thanks for the heads up stare, you sent me down a rabbit hole. Interesting read. Time to get up from the computer.

Quote:

Wingman4l7 from Reddit:

I would highly recommend wearing a respirator. Oyster spore dumps can be quite heavy; there is even a picture (I think it's in Stamets' Growing Gourmet & Medicinal Mushrooms) of an oyster mushroom with spore "icicles" hanging off of it!

A veteran & well-respected member of The Shroomery forum, RogerRabbit, runs his own organic mushroom farm. He has posted multiple times about how he can no longer grow oyster mushrooms because he has developed a severe allergy to their spores. This was due to growing them indoors and inadvertently inhaling their spores, IIRC over the course of several years. (PM me if you are interested and I can link you to some specific posts).

For posterity's sake:
  • "Be careful growing those indoors, especially if it's your bedroom where you spend many hours per day. It doesn't take but a few years to develop the allergy to oyster spores." (source; also has more details about his severe reaction to them)
  • "Wear a respirator from day one. It takes a year or two for the allergy to develop if you're exposed a lot. My mistake was using a mini-greenhouse in my bedroom, where I was exposed to the spores all night while sleeping." (source)
  • "It took about six months of having them in my bedroom daily to get the allergy. I had grown them for at least a decade before that, but in a separate area where I only got exposed when tending them. However, once the allergy developed, I can't even go into a grow room for two minutes if there's an oyster spore load there." (source)
  • symptoms and how the allergy develops; a bit more info
  • so many spores they clog an A/C unit
  • his cautionary tale
  • "Furthermore, after a few years of growing oyster mushrooms you will be so allergic to the spores that you'll have to wear a full face respirator just to enter the grow room." (source)
  • "Oyster spore allergy takes a few years of heavy exposure to growing them to develop, so a new grower isn't going to experience it." (source)
  • "Actually, allergy might not even be the best word to describe the immune system reaction to oysters, which is much closer to a bad case of the flu than standard allergies." (source)
  • "I suggest a full face respirator with charcoal cartridges and an N95 attachment to go over the charcoal canisters. I bought mine from uline.com so I could go back to oyster growing" (source)





Good thing I only have a few shoeboxes going:eek:.


--------------------
Wassup Fresh? It's our turn baby


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineproustdreams
Stranger

Registered: 01/24/18
Posts: 29
Last seen: 5 years, 9 months
Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: lewp] * 2
    #24992259 - 02/13/18 07:59 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

The very first pinset of my very first grow!  TY to mushboy and everyone else for their contributions!








I've made a fuck ton of mistakes along the way and hopefully I'll learn from them and make improvements in my future grows.  The surface pinset could have been much better and I'm also getting a shit ton of side pins as seen here.



If anyone can chime in, I'd be grateful for some criticism.  Being my first foray into anything mushroom related, there's a bit of a Dunning Kruger effect where I'm too incompetent to precisely identify my incompetencies.

My guess as to why I got a shit ton of side pins is (let me know if I'm wrong here):

1.  Sub shrank from walls very early on.  I mistakenly (?) thought fruiting in shoeboxes meant flipping the lid + misting.  I overlooked the fact that spawning grains to these shoeboxes is basically fruiting at spawn since these lids allow for lots of passive FAE from the outset.  I flipped the lid around 7-8 days in (at around 80% colonization) and the sub dried up reaaaaal fucking quick.  This is even with misting 4-6 times a day.  At a minimum, I think I should have kept the lid latched on until I started getting some pins.

2.  Top layer wasn't level, corners weren't mixed well, and I overlooked mixing those little fucking ridges at the bottom!  For some reason I was paranoid about packing the top layer too tightly so I made it as loose and airy as possible.  This resulted in bumps, valleys and dips all over the surface.  Combined with over drying, the loose top layer dried out super quick!


Once harvested, agar will be next!


Edited by proustdreams (02/13/18 08:04 PM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineSpivkurl
Electroacoustic inventor
Male


Registered: 08/26/17
Posts: 945
Loc: Minnesota, the next state...
Last seen: 3 years, 7 months
Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: lewp]
    #24992266 - 02/13/18 08:01 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

I suppose that similar precautions are in effect for gymnopilus as would be for oysters, since they are both some prolific spore producers. It's interesting to consider.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineSpivkurl
Electroacoustic inventor
Male


Registered: 08/26/17
Posts: 945
Loc: Minnesota, the next state...
Last seen: 3 years, 7 months
Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: proustdreams]
    #24992272 - 02/13/18 08:02 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

proustdreams said:
The very first pinset of my very first grow!  TY to mushboy and everyone else for their contributions!








I've made a fuck ton of mistakes along the way and hopefully I'll learn from them and make improvements in my future grows.  The surface pinset could have been much better and I'm also getting a shit ton of side pins as seen here.



If anyone can chime in, I'd be grateful for some criticism.  Being my first foray into anything mushroom related, there's a bit of a Dunning Kruger effect where I'm too incompetent to precisely identify my incompetencies.

My guess as to why I got a shit ton of side pins is (let me know if I'm wrong here):

Sub shrank from walls very early on.  I mistakenly (?) thought fruiting in shoeboxes meant flipping the lid + misting.  I overlooked the fact that spawning grains to these shoeboxes is basically fruiting at spawn since these lids allow for lots of passive FAE from the outset.  I flipped the lid around 7-8 days in (at around 80% colonization) and the sub dried up reaaaaal fucking quick.  This is even with misting 4-6 times a day.  At a minimum, I think I should have kept the lid latched on until I started getting some pins.

Once harvested, agar will be next!




I had similar issues as you (drying shrinking sub), but it looks like you have more side pins than I had fruits in general!! Good on ya.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleMunchauzen
 User Gallery

Registered: 06/22/11
Posts: 14,342
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: lewp] * 2
    #24992289 - 02/13/18 08:07 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Just a tip, do all your mushroom related research directly here on Shroomery. Learn how to effectively use our own search engine. Reddit is an absolute waste of time, and any worthwhile post will reference shroomery, like you just found. Better to get the info from the actual source than a secondary source.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisiblemushboyMDiscord
modboy
 User Gallery


Registered: 04/24/05
Posts: 32,281
Loc: where?
Trusted Cultivator
OG Cultivator
Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Munchauzen]
    #24992296 - 02/13/18 08:10 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

:feelsshroomyman:

side pins happen because the climate between tote and sub is better than the surface.:thumbup:


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineTight Lunchbox
Drunk cat


Registered: 11/06/16
Posts: 2,116
Last seen: 4 months, 8 days
Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Munchauzen]
    #24992314 - 02/13/18 08:17 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

I second this, Reddit is garbage as a mush cult resource.


--------------------
"it's all a joke between mom contractions and coffin fittings"


The most useful tool for noobs


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleZero Nowhere
Beer Drinker
Male


Registered: 01/29/18
Posts: 1,471
Loc: Standing on the moon
Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: proustdreams]
    #24992317 - 02/13/18 08:17 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Good job brother


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineproustdreams
Stranger

Registered: 01/24/18
Posts: 29
Last seen: 5 years, 9 months
Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy]
    #24992320 - 02/13/18 08:19 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

mushboy said:
:feelsshroomyman:

side pins happen because the climate between tote and sub is better than the surface.:thumbup:




I've read this entire thread enough times that I'm convinced you mumble that in your sleep, either that or agarrrrr....do agarrrr you fucking noob zzzz. 

But yes, I wrote down what I thought to be my mistakes throughout my grow and it all leads to your conclusion!


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisiblemushboyMDiscord
modboy
 User Gallery


Registered: 04/24/05
Posts: 32,281
Loc: where?
Trusted Cultivator
OG Cultivator
Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: proustdreams]
    #24992332 - 02/13/18 08:22 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

:fonz:

its a lot of talk though. surface conditions cant be verbally explained really.
pics help but its like trying to describe a perfectly cooked steak over the phone while someone else grills.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineOriginalGinger
Lackadaisical
Male User Gallery


Registered: 07/01/17
Posts: 279
Loc: Cape Town, South Africa
Last seen: 2 years, 2 months
Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: lewp]
    #24992994 - 02/14/18 04:25 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Are the spores from King Oyster also dangerous? Can't find info on google.


--------------------
"On a desperate mission to find a dung lover print!"


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineNikoyo
FUN GUY
I'm a teapot

Registered: 01/29/17
Posts: 288
Last seen: 7 days, 7 hours
Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: lewp]
    #24993128 - 02/14/18 06:02 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

lewp said:
Quote:

stareatclouds said:
Yes, Google "oyster mushroom spore dangers" or something. RR developed a serious allergic reaction after a while and most commercial growers will have a high-rated mask of some sort for it. Check the gourmet section for more info. :smile:




Thanks for the heads up stare, you sent me down a rabbit hole. Interesting read. Time to get up from the computer.

Quote:

Wingman4l7 from Reddit:

I would highly recommend wearing a respirator. Oyster spore dumps can be quite heavy; there is even a picture (I think it's in Stamets' Growing Gourmet & Medicinal Mushrooms) of an oyster mushroom with spore "icicles" hanging off of it!

A veteran & well-respected member of The Shroomery forum, RogerRabbit, runs his own organic mushroom farm. He has posted multiple times about how he can no longer grow oyster mushrooms because he has developed a severe allergy to their spores. This was due to growing them indoors and inadvertently inhaling their spores, IIRC over the course of several years. (PM me if you are interested and I can link you to some specific posts).

For posterity's sake:
  • "Be careful growing those indoors, especially if it's your bedroom where you spend many hours per day. It doesn't take but a few years to develop the allergy to oyster spores." (source; also has more details about his severe reaction to them)
  • "Wear a respirator from day one. It takes a year or two for the allergy to develop if you're exposed a lot. My mistake was using a mini-greenhouse in my bedroom, where I was exposed to the spores all night while sleeping." (source)
  • "It took about six months of having them in my bedroom daily to get the allergy. I had grown them for at least a decade before that, but in a separate area where I only got exposed when tending them. However, once the allergy developed, I can't even go into a grow room for two minutes if there's an oyster spore load there." (source)
  • symptoms and how the allergy develops; a bit more info
  • so many spores they clog an A/C unit
  • his cautionary tale
  • "Furthermore, after a few years of growing oyster mushrooms you will be so allergic to the spores that you'll have to wear a full face respirator just to enter the grow room." (source)
  • "Oyster spore allergy takes a few years of heavy exposure to growing them to develop, so a new grower isn't going to experience it." (source)
  • "Actually, allergy might not even be the best word to describe the immune system reaction to oysters, which is much closer to a bad case of the flu than standard allergies." (source)
  • "I suggest a full face respirator with charcoal cartridges and an N95 attachment to go over the charcoal canisters. I bought mine from uline.com so I could go back to oyster growing" (source)





Good thing I only have a few shoeboxes going:eek:.




Oh man! Im glad we talked about it a bit, I had planned on doing straw logs down in the basement. Think ill stick them in shoeboxes when i try them.


--------------------
Gettin back to work


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: < First | < Back | 170 | 171 | 172 | 173 | 174 | 175 | 176 | 177 | 178 | 179 | 180 | 181 | 182 | 183 | 184 | 185 | 186 | 187 | 188 | 189 | 190 | Next > | Last >

Shop: Mushroom-Hut Grow Bags   North Spore Bulk Substrate   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   PhytoExtractum Buy Bali Kratom Powder   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   Bridgetown Botanicals CBD Concentrates


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Shoebox incubator Jellynuts 4,121 5 08/02/04 02:56 PM
by Cole
* shoeboxes sludge 2,958 2 06/24/05 01:26 PM
by sludge
* making a incubator iamTheOne 781 1 05/30/03 12:35 PM
by KlingonFromUranus
* Do you want to make rye shakables? TrippinRhino 5,393 11 10/11/01 01:56 PM
by TrippinRhino
* Attention Newbies-Use Foil to make a sporeprint!
( 1 2 3 all )
Catzeye 25,692 46 02/23/02 12:20 PM
by bluhoney
* Tips on making Syringes 00Nick00 5,077 19 08/29/02 01:58 AM
by goldtop
* Making Spore Syringes Anonymous 7,245 13 09/04/02 08:14 PM
by Sammy
* Attention Newbies-Make Spore Prints With Foil! Catzeye 22,161 1 02/20/02 01:54 PM
by psilocybinjunkie

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Shroomism, george castanza, RogerRabbit, veggie, mushboy, fahtster, LogicaL Chaos, 13shrooms, Stipe-n Cap, Pastywhyte, bodhisatta, Tormato, Land Trout, A.k.a
623,701 topic views. 12 members, 189 guests and 49 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.026 seconds spending 0.009 seconds on 13 queries.