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OfflineSpivkurl
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: OriginalGinger]
    #24963552 - 02/03/18 06:33 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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Thanks for sharing your experience, I don't have a heat source but I'm in South Africa with temps over 91farenheit in my grow room every day late afternoons when the sun cooks the walls.

I think I'll be bottom watering for the first flush then...




Yeah, with heat like that, I would think that it would cause some difficulties! Definitely a different set of conditions than I am working with.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: OriginalGinger]
    #24963654 - 02/03/18 08:31 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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My new shoe boxes are shrinking quite a bit before first flush, should I bottom water now or should I wait for it to start knotting first or can I still get away with shrinking on the first flush?




I just bottom watered a shoebox yesterday that had shrunk considerably mid first flush. I poured 2-3 oz of water down the gaps along the walls, and had no excess to drain when I checked 3 hours later.

This is only my 2nd shoebox so I'm still refining my methods to this size tub.  I'm going to add another half-quart of water next time I mix my CVG and see if that helps. I've been misting multiple times a day as needed and still having hydration issues.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: MrFresh]
    #24963689 - 02/03/18 08:59 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks, I see the temps in Egypt is around the same as here now.

Do you guys usually add more vermiculite to your horse manure than you would to your coir?


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: OriginalGinger]
    #24963920 - 02/03/18 12:23 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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OriginalGinger said:
Thanks for sharing your experience, I don't have a heat source but I'm in South Africa with temps over 91farenheit in my grow room every day late afternoons when the sun cooks the walls.

I think I'll be bottom watering for the first flush then...



You can get a small exhaust fan to help with that. Personally, I use a small window a/c unit.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Doc9151]
    #24963993 - 02/03/18 01:13 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Hell yeah. Nice thread Mushboy, Im in!
I made these shoeboxes last week. The each have 2 qts of spawn mixed with 2 qts cooked coir/vermiculite.
 

  I cased them about 1/4 inch deep with leftover coir. Today when i peeked at them, you can see the myc poking through the top. So i think its going to work.
 


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Hoppybeer1976]
    #24964035 - 02/03/18 01:36 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Another Burma box...First flush



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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: CultiCat]
    #24965097 - 02/03/18 06:23 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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Another Burma box...First flush






That looks mega dry for a first flush. Did you maintain surface conditions with misting?


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Shroomymancer]
    #24965137 - 02/03/18 06:42 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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Another Burma box...First flush






That looks mega dry for a first flush. Did you maintain surface conditions with misting?




Of course I've been misting them... Do you not see how big those monsters are?


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: CultiCat]
    #24966066 - 02/04/18 03:33 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

I went for a 1:1 spawn ratio and my boxes are also pulling from the sides before the first flush, I think next time I'm going to go for a 1:2 or 1:3 ratio.

Guys what is your preferred ratio and what yields do you get with it?


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: OriginalGinger]
    #24966238 - 02/04/18 07:14 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

1:1 is my go to. I can get about the same yield with 1:2 but it takes longer until harvest


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Germs]
    #24966282 - 02/04/18 07:50 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Some of my nice early fruits of this morning...



These are in the great white monster box, spawned 1:4 CVG with a top layer on 15 Jan 2018. This one is doing far better than the 1:2 boxes with no top layer spawned on the 13th. Those have proved much harder to keep surface conditions proper, and they definitely pulled away from the sides more.

Also took a bad picture of the box spawned on 28 Jan, using B+ BRF cakes as the spawn... almost ready for fruits I think.



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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Spivkurl]
    #24966318 - 02/04/18 08:11 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Lol I have some B+ boxes spawned the 28th too, we can have a competition :laugh: JK.

Ok so today I upped the coir a bit to a 1:2 ratio, and tomorrow I'll do 2 boxes with a 1:3 and a 1:4 ratio and see how it goes.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: CultiCat]
    #24966322 - 02/04/18 08:14 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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Of course I've been misting them... Do you not see how big those monsters are?




Not directly related to misting but how much moisture is contained in your sub. I left a shoebox untouched for 10 days. It was dub tubbed and unopened the entire time. 4 fruits grew bigger than any others I've had to date. No misting. The water came from the sub



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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Steevo]
    #24966364 - 02/04/18 08:45 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Great fruits steevo that's nice man.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Steevo]
    #24966409 - 02/04/18 09:14 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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Of course I've been misting them... Do you not see how big those monsters are?




Not directly related to misting but how much moisture is contained in your sub. I left a shoebox untouched for 10 days. It was dub tubbed and unopened the entire time. 4 fruits grew bigger than any others I've had to date. No misting. The water came from the sub





Well dude had said my substrate looked really dry... I mist 3 to 5 times a day...Its very dry in my house...None of my other subs look like that... So I was assuming it was because of how big the fruits were.  Sucking the sub dry.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: CultiCat]
    #24966571 - 02/04/18 10:48 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Steevo, that's beautiful, love the pattern on the cap.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Doc9151]
    #24966578 - 02/04/18 10:52 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Sporesplosion was the cause of that lol


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Steevo]
    #24966588 - 02/04/18 10:58 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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Sporesplosion




:laugh:  :laugh:


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: OriginalGinger]
    #24966747 - 02/04/18 12:16 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Mother nature is definitely the best artists imo.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Doc9151] * 1
    #24968863 - 02/05/18 12:23 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)




first flush from a 3:3 ms fiji tub, culture keeps producing some nice clusters. Cant wait to see how it does in monotubs.


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