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mushboy
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: JFlint]
#24905298 - 01/11/18 10:51 AM (6 years, 19 days ago) |
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i like to let the caps open up and flatten. i like em that way. turns me on
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Shroomymancer
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy]
#24905411 - 01/11/18 12:32 PM (6 years, 19 days ago) |
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What's an M tag?
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: JFlint]
#24905578 - 01/11/18 02:08 PM (6 years, 19 days ago) |
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JFlint said: Hereโs the best tub I got going so far. On my lunch break today I went home, opened the dubtub a bit ajar, and used all my will (maybe exaggerating a bit), not to mist it. I think these will spring up at least a little bit more before opening up. Fingers crossed.
Also, if Iโm refraining from misting as much as possible, do I still want moisture beads, or a glistening surface while the fruits mature?

Think I may clone that pointy one in the back left. I like that a lot for some reason.
yeah id like to know to
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Shroomymancer
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: AyePlus]
#24905626 - 01/11/18 02:28 PM (6 years, 19 days ago) |
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Hoping for my canopy clone with this guy. Snatched from a nice cluster on second flush. Eager to leave the MS behind 

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Mateah said: and once again seems Iยดll get fruits from bacterial spawn 

    
Bacterial spawn in the photos, 3 different tubs with the same bacterial spawn, two of the 3 tubs put out 2 flushes And once again It seems that I will get fruits from bacterial spawn. This is not the same as saying bacterial spawn is the way to go. Iยดm just saying what Iยดm saying, that this bacth of bacterial WBS seems decent enough to produce a normal flush. Pin city once again, about multiple flushes we will wait and see
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JFlint

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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Mateja]
#24905703 - 01/11/18 03:25 PM (6 years, 19 days ago) |
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Anybody have further comment regarding surface conditions during fruit maturation?
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Shroomymancer
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: JFlint] 1
#24906205 - 01/11/18 06:54 PM (6 years, 19 days ago) |
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Shoe box Alcatraz...
 Second flush fatties.

I've pretty much run a full cycle on my first SB's (still 3rd flush possibilities I suppose). I've learned allot about what to do for bulk and allot more on what not to do. So far out of over a dozen (14 I think?) 1 SB got trich on the second flush and was sent to it's doom. All others but 2* are in the process of 2nd flush or about to enter 3rd in a day or two. Experimented with ratios and substrate depths with 2q spawn and 2q substrate showing the best results. Light packing of substrate (lightly tamping down with fingers after leveling) resulted in less side pins, no packing = more side pins, and *heavy packing resulted in shit that still has barely fruited first flush. Those with a 1/4 top layer added at spawn performed better on first flush then those without. During this grow I learned to back the hell off of going mist crazy with a few sb's putting out midgets. At least I think this was my mistake. I'll know better on the next round as I easy up after the knotting and pinning stage and rely more on micro climate that the shrooms create among themselves and watching more for substrate drying color of coir as opposed to perfect looking beads of water. This is in regards to dub tubbing mostly (sorry mushboy) which I prefer at this time. Open air fruiting was used to combat my misting errors but man does that take a bit more attention and I'm not ready to babysit that yet. I have a jar on my desk here that is just straight up open air and it hates me. So maybe ill work on that some other day.
Was able to get a few clones to start down that road as well. Over all SB's are my go to right now and I would recommend first timers starting with them. They require a bit more attention then an unmodded, I think, if you have a dry house so you learn more in a shorter period of time. Cheers! What a blast it was starting these out and coming back to the shroomery after 2 F'in decades Dry weight is somewhere around 8 oz so far, so despite some fails and whatnot I can't complain. Sure made the new Star Wars movie much better to watch .
   
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mushboy
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i dubtub too dude. i like some of the things you pointed out. you are 100% correct..
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Light packing of substrate (lightly tamping down with fingers after leveling) resulted in less side pins, no packing = more side pins

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During this grow I learned to back the hell off of going mist crazy

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watching more for substrate drying color of coir as opposed to perfect looking beads of water
i have the same mindset right now but a 'glisten' on the myc is still what you are looking for.
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They require a bit more attention
but look at what you learn in a relatively quick amount of time?
combat side pins? - check. adjusted misting to your conditions? - double check  watching your grow and applying what you learned? - in the bag.
takes some people years to figure out that shit. grow those skills dawg
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ChickenFarmer
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy]
#24906237 - 01/11/18 07:09 PM (6 years, 19 days ago) |
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Wishing I would've lightly packed my sub
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JFlint

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Shroomymancer said: [/url]
Is that mono in the left corner unmodded?
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Shroomymancer
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: JFlint]
#24906318 - 01/11/18 07:39 PM (6 years, 19 days ago) |
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Yep! After I started my first SB's I started the unmodded next. I think I will always have one of those going just to help get rid of jars. I have a serious problem right now with being bored and making more jars... Jars everywhere
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Shroomymancer
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Oh I forgot to mention I did both WBS and rye berry. I like the rye berry better but in all cases the WBS fruited earlier (also had more bacterial tho). Up next is Oats 
Thanks To Mush and madhattery420, and a few others in here with weird nicks I can't recall. You guys sharing info really allowed me to follow along. I'm a good copy cat
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TheMadHatter420
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A shoebox of sorts. It was knocked up with 4 x pint cakes with my lgt clone. I will try this tub again with grains.
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JFlint

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Shroomymancer said: Oh I forgot to mention I did both WBS and rye berry. I like the rye berry better but in all cases the WBS fruited earlier (also had more bacterial tho). Up next is Oats 
Thanks To Mush and madhattery420, and a few others in here with weird nicks I can't recall. You guys sharing info really allowed me to follow along. I'm a good copy cat 
Hell yeah. Ditto! Iโve been doing oats. Really awesome grain to work with and cheap too. Theyโre really hard to fuck up. God though I hate the smell of them in the PC. They fill my house with this cloying sweet cereal odor. I think making jars would be on the last of my things to do out of boredom. Haha.
Hey man what do you do for your second flush? Do you dunk? Mist heavily? Any structured regime you follow? Really not getting much of a second flush on any of my stuff and the surface is very battered, stumpy, and bruised/matted.
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: JFlint]
#24906656 - 01/11/18 10:07 PM (6 years, 19 days ago) |
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Shrooms4life
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So question, how long is it normally taking you ms guys to get the first pins from spawning? I made up 2 sb's on the 1st and 2 others on the 2nd and they both still look like my pics from a couple pages back.. still lots of aerial mycellium and not much knotting if any :/ they are fully colonized and one of the ones I spawned on the 6th has already caught up with all 4 and looks about the same. Is 10 days not long enough to knot up even? Surface conditions have maintained nice beads of moisture the whole time even though one of the sb's has looked to have shrunk just a tiny tiny bit already.
I've heard like 8 days from spawn to pinset and I don't even have knots just lots of crazy mycellium spider leggs!
 Also noticed metabolite water on some of the bottom corners, is the mycellium running from contams and won't flush?
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OriginalGinger
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8 Days is too little, I usually see hyphal knots around 8 to 10 days in, pins in about 13 days...
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ManifoldPrime
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I'm reposing this question since it didnt get a response, and I think its a neglected part of the process:
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On a related note, I wanna try salvage the boxes (about 4-6) themselves , I'm gonna scrub with soapy water till theres no visible matter, then bleach bomb the lot (20% bleach and water) for 24 hours, then rescrub, run through the dish and spray with iso after drying. Should be fine afterwards? should I do a dry run with them with just 1 half pint of good spawn and a bit of coir spread out amongst all of them to see if they trich out due to remenant trich spores? stupid idea?
Whats your cleaning procedure for tammed out boxes? specifically sporulating contams?
Throwing the boxes out isnt economically viable for me. Marking the tammed out boxes, once cleaned, to only use for top tubs for dubbing may be a good compromise.
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OriginalGinger
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Never had trich but I've cleaned out cobweb mold containers with just bleach/Handy Andy, then just bleach again, then water. then alcohol rubdown before using again.
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