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TheMadHatter420
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Some people are to tight on what one should and should not do. If you cant get a good pin set doing it the way Bod does, well fuck it do it YOUR way if it works. Don't worry about other opinions unless it is NOT working, then their opinions might point out what is wrong.
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van hatton
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Well said
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bodhisatta said: Pins can form on a dry surface if its humid. Like petri dishes, in vitro grows.
The chamber is still humid enough. Yall acting like its the Sahara desert just because the mist beads are gone after a few hours. Big fucking deal that's a pinning trigger lol.
Even in my 10-20% rh room i get pins inside of my tubs and sometimes the surface gets dry. Sometimes it stays dry for days at a time.
Yeah bod but you know what to look for and how much you can push your limits ect... I mist right before I'm about to leave for work, close up my GH, and when I get home my sub looks sad and bruised up so It makes me sad too 
So try and seal it up and give it less fresh air thats wat causes the drought.
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Xclozure]
#24893590 - 01/06/18 07:29 AM (6 years, 24 days ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Pins can form on a dry surface if its humid. Like petri dishes, in vitro grows.
The chamber is still humid enough. Yall acting like its the Sahara desert just because the mist beads are gone after a few hours. Big fucking deal that's a pinning trigger lol.
Even in my 10-20% rh room i get pins inside of my tubs and sometimes the surface gets dry. Sometimes it stays dry for days at a time.
Yeah bod but you know what to look for and how much you can push your limits ect... I mist right before I'm about to leave for work, close up my GH, and when I get home my sub looks sad and bruised up so It makes me sad too 
So try and seal it up and give it less fresh air thats wat causes the drought.
Yeah your right I'm just over thinking it and trying to provide to much fae.
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mushboy
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do whatever you want. its your shoebox! just try to stay within the sorta guidelines so you get shrooms out of your efforts.
i love experimenting and trying new shit, just as long as you something to show for your efforts. no one here is going to redefine the basics of the fruiting process so stick with the less is more approach and you will have results.
less is more would mean how much you personally interact with the shoebox. thats why munchauzen, who probably would of written a better write up, just says to leave the lids on and fruit as is or do dubtubs. keep it simple fellas.
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I don't put them in monos thou. I either just leave the lids on or dub them.
no ones a rockstar(yet) so before you try goofy things with your shoeboxes/totes remember that the kickass cultivators get the moisture content of their bulk correct and just leave them alone. think of that everytime you wanna micro manage the grow.
also anyone whos talked to a real rockstar will tell you that they are some of the most humble people around and that everything that made them who they are is on the coat tails of other people before them. so if you take an idea and make it better?
hey jude! you are the walrus and the eggman. but make sure you are making it better. not just masking failure with goofy random stabs in the intellectual dark
i love how making shoeboxes was really my own selfish way of narrating and structuring my thoughts while i was going insane from booze withdrawal and now so many people use it to grow mushrooms. its a never ending shock, surprise and honor.
i thank you all
ive been ranting too much recently which means im not growing enough. gotta walk that walk if you talk that talk
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mushboy
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy] 1
#24893745 - 01/06/18 09:27 AM (6 years, 24 days ago) |
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ape shoeboxes with top layers. been fruitin for a minute.

way to snap a pic ansel adams

these ape shoeboxes are fucking thirsty. if you like to mist. grow some water guzzling ape.
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy] 1
#24893912 - 01/06/18 11:02 AM (6 years, 24 days ago) |
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I’ve got a couple shoeboxes starting to pin bow. They are all MS cleaned on agar. One is just a 1qt:1qt ratio the other 3 are 2:2. The 1:1 is pinning much better than the other three and the other three aren’t really knotting up much at all. Is this typical of MS?

I’ve got the surfaces looking really nice IMO on all four of these. I just don’t know what I’m doing wrong to achieve at the least an expansive pinset. Not even worried about density of the pinset just consistency at this point.
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TheMadHatter420
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: JFlint]
#24893939 - 01/06/18 11:18 AM (6 years, 24 days ago) |
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Since it is MS those may be the "early" genetics. MS can flush rather unevenly.
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mushboy
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: JFlint]
#24893948 - 01/06/18 11:22 AM (6 years, 24 days ago) |
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JFlint said: I’ve got a couple shoeboxes starting to pin bow. They are all MS cleaned on agar. One is just a 1qt:1qt ratio the other 3 are 2:2. The 1:1 is pinning much better than the other three and the other three aren’t really knotting up much at all. Is this typical of MS?

I’ve got the surfaces looking really nice IMO on all four of these. I just don’t know what I’m doing wrong to achieve at the least an expansive pinset. Not even worried about density of the pinset just consistency at this point.
lookin nice. let them do what they need to do. 
cloning helps with pin set consistency but its really about nailing the conditions more than anything. practice makes perfect!
just like MS, sometimes clones can just straight up suck.
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TheMadHatter420
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy]
#24894008 - 01/06/18 11:52 AM (6 years, 24 days ago) |
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Based on my personal experiences, I think there might be a little bacteria in there. I am saying this based off of the look of the mycelium. I had to many bacterial tubs in the past, lol.
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i agree but he should be good.
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TheMadHatter420
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy]
#24894024 - 01/06/18 11:59 AM (6 years, 24 days ago) |
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Yea he will get fruits! It is not that bad of an infection, but that can play a little part.
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JFlint

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TheMadHatter420 said: Based on my personal experiences, I think there might be a little bacteria in there. I am saying this based off of the look of the mycelium. I had to many bacterial tubs in the past, lol.
The spawn I used for the 2:2 looked very clean. The 1:1 tub was bacterial. However, what traits and characteristics do the mycelium have that says bacterial?
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy] 1
#24894331 - 01/06/18 02:30 PM (6 years, 24 days ago) |
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its clearer on this one.
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the myc has those kinda white spiky puff ball looking kinda things going on. its not bacteria itself but a reaction to its presence
like this.
 
...i think
Edited by mushboy (01/06/18 02:42 PM)
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TheMadHatter420
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy] 1
#24894375 - 01/06/18 02:47 PM (6 years, 24 days ago) |
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Look at this mono tub I have going right now, no spikey puff balls or mycelium running up the sides badly.
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy]
#24894435 - 01/06/18 03:28 PM (6 years, 24 days ago) |
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mushboy said: its clearer on this one.
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the myc has those kinda white spiky puff ball looking kinda things going on. its not bacteria itself but a reaction to its presence
like this.
 
...i think
Well fuck man that's how all my shoeboxes are looking :/
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TheMadHatter420
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That does NOT mean they will fail. I had a horribly bacterial, spore to grain, tub go 5 flushes before mold showed up. I did this just to see if I could do spores to grain, a fun kind of thing. Worked with 2 out of 3. NOT what I would do on a regular basis.
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Yours is fine
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