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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: stareatclouds]
    #24839197 - 12/11/17 08:32 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

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Beautiful. Yours too, Madhatter.


Alright, you boxheads. Reading this thread convinced me. Due to my shitty agar cutting, some jars are taking off more than others. I'm gonna spawn each in a shoebox now. I'd rather carry many small boxes and lids around Target than giant ones.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: TaderHoagie]
    #24839202 - 12/11/17 08:35 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

LOL I have like 30 qts that are all going to finish with in maybe a week of one another. I am considering doing g2g with a few, most from agar a few from LI, LOL. I got 10 shoeboxes, 10 25QT mini monos and 3 66qt monos. At some point I will need to stop putting the shoeboxes in the monos for fruiting and spawn to them. Then at some point going to have to buy more tubs.

I feel like that's a good problem. I will never go hungry, LOL.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: TheMadHatter420]
    #24839424 - 12/11/17 11:25 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)


1 qt spawn



2 qt spawn

1 brick of coir split to 5 shoebox's, first clone


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Enkidu]
    #24839429 - 12/11/17 11:31 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

100 pages. Congrats mushboy.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: JHOVA]
    #24839811 - 12/11/17 03:24 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Just spawned two shoeboxes last night. Theyre already beginning to colonize...I am a bit confused. Do you guys begin misting before the surface is colonized? Or only after there is mycelium covering the top layer?


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: JFlint]
    #24839815 - 12/11/17 03:27 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

It shouldn't need any misting until after full colonization.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: JFlint]
    #24839816 - 12/11/17 03:28 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

after some myc as colonized the surface. like 30% of the surface? i dunno. i mist whenever it 'needs' it. whenever the mushrooms tell me:confused:


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy]
    #24839887 - 12/11/17 03:57 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

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It shouldn't need any misting until after full colonization.



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after some myc as colonized the surface. like 30% of the surface? i dunno. i mist whenever it 'needs' it. whenever the mushrooms tell me:confused:



Okay thats what I thought. I just wanted to make sure I didnt fuck up and do something catastrophically wrong. Thanks guys! Hopefully I can get some pics of these two.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: JFlint]
    #24840195 - 12/11/17 06:13 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

You mist to replenish lost water and to create a good surface condition of evaporation to trigger pin formation on the colonized surface.

For the pic of box's a couple posts above, I left the lid on until past fully colonized and damn near a full pin set. Then I flipped the lid after I saw the pins and mushrooms growing bigger. I didn't mist until just recently, today actually, same day I switched from lid to dub tub.

Seems like you can get away with being rather neglectful to these shoebox's and still pull a decent flush if you can dial in on decent conditions.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Enkidu]
    #24841693 - 12/12/17 11:13 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

It's tough to keep them from drying out, so I made a little circus tent out of plastic wrap. It turned out well.
Won't get another flush, trich ; and it was a single bacterial jar. I'm happy.
Surface conditions were pretty darn good. Still needs work, side pins started after the surface pinned.
OH well, only my second shoebox.



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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mynakedrat]
    #24841700 - 12/12/17 11:17 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Who here has pics of cased vs uncased shoeboxes?


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: JHOVA]
    #24841714 - 12/12/17 11:25 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

I was gonna late case, but the pinset was impressive. Next time I will, but I only have coir and verm for a case


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Enkidu] * 1
    #24841727 - 12/12/17 11:33 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

WBS spawn, to Coir 1:2 ratio
12oz jars to ~ 2/3 quart of hydrated coir (using Bods hydration TEK)

This is my first time actually transferring spawn to a substrate and I liked the idea and supporting knowledge of the shoeboxes so this is the route I went. Up until now, it's just been playing with agar and figuring out the basics.

I'm probably going to get some backlash for how messed up the leveling is in the shoeboxes, but it's all part of the learning process.

Spawn transferred to substrate ~36 hours ago.
Waiting until full colonization to flip the lid and introduce misting.
Waiting until fruiting occurs to dubtub.
Once first flush is completed, I plan on filling the container with water to harvest and dump out remaining water.
So on and so forth until probably 2-3 flushes.









4 shoeboxes total.

Missing anything?
Is 1:2 ratio way too little of spawn to expect decent results?
Is my coir looking a little dry? (700g dry coir to 5qts boiling water)


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: lootsrab]
    #24841754 - 12/12/17 11:49 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

It's almost on the dry side. Remember the color when you first open the coir? Light brown/tan?
When your sub starts to tend toward that color, give it a light misting, wait an hr and check again.
Don't over water, or miss that much, during Colo though. You'll get it.
Not bad for a barstool!


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mynakedrat]
    #24841776 - 12/12/17 12:04 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

:whathesaid:
thats way dry.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: JHOVA]
    #24841793 - 12/12/17 12:15 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

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Who here has pics of cased vs uncased shoeboxes?





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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24844619 - 12/13/17 08:20 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

I'm loving these shoeboxes!  First grow.  Golden Teacher MS to WBS and CVG 2:2, log HERE  My Christmas bonus this year was a Walmart giftcard so hopefully I'm gonna spend it on a dehydrator  :rockon:


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: MeltingNe0]
    #24844679 - 12/13/17 08:57 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Bod im curious how your cased shoeboxes do.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: JHOVA]
    #24844720 - 12/13/17 09:22 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

I didn't case an APE shoebox and it wound up with about half the average first flush as cased. But APE is something that actually should be cased so no surprise there. I'll dig pics if I can.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: stareatclouds]
    #24844726 - 12/13/17 09:25 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Maybe it’s just my environment but my APE uncased shoeboxes did just as well if not better than the cased. By casing I mean a properly pasteurized casing layer and not just coir

I always cover my boxes/tubs with a 1/4inch layer of bulk sub at spawning


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