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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: ReginaldShowalter]
    #24813820 - 11/29/17 08:11 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

make a new thread?

but you are over thinking it. pick the mushrooms whenever you want.
most people will do it right before, or after the veil breaks.

i highly doubt there will ever be a time were it will matter SO much that you loose sleep over it.

grow them first. then worry about harvesting them. in the mean time, buy a dehydrator and read every thread you can.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy]
    #24813911 - 11/29/17 09:05 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)


Clone coming in hot


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: ReginaldShowalter]
    #24813938 - 11/29/17 09:18 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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ReginaldShowalter said:
I don't want to derail this Magnificent Shoeboxathon with a harvest survey (though I would love to hear from some TCs).  If this needs to be its own thread, PM me.  I don't really know how that would work yet (not really a forum person).



If picking mushrooms requires a question. You're overthinking it.

Cut them, pull them, twist them. Figure out what you like
Pick them whenever you want. They're your mushrooms.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24815062 - 11/29/17 06:04 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

I think even if letting them mature causes a slight loss in potency it would be unnoticeable, I think it really depends. If your going to make prints it's better to let those go a bit longer, too early and they won't drop spores. If they are for munching right after the first veil breaks is common but it's really about when the mushrooms are done, after the first flush I harvest as they mature but during the first it can be hard to reach mature fruit without disrupting shrooms that could stand to continue growing. That's my understanding of the reasoning anyways
But like others said it's really not all that important and really shouldn't be of any concern until you have fruit to pick, what's more important is proper drying and fruiting conditions.
And btw I also think they look much more majestic with flatter caps.


[SIDENOTE]: I want to thank everyone in this thread, I recently overdosed on heroin and I feel like mushrooms have really given me a wake up call. I was passing the H plugs hotel last night and it was swarmed with police. Life is full of invisible blessings. Without the cumulative knowledge of the community I may very well be dead right now, I feel like these shrooms have a purpose in being born under my care, and this website was my most valued tool in my pursuits.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Hopeless_Hound]
    #24815119 - 11/29/17 06:35 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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I think even if letting them mature causes a slight loss in potency it would be unnoticeable, I think it really depends. If your going to make prints it's better to let those go a bit longer, too early and they won't drop spores. If they are for munching right after the first veil breaks is common but it's really about when the mushrooms are done, after the first flush I harvest as they mature but during the first it can be hard to reach mature fruit without disrupting shrooms that could stand to continue growing. That's my understanding of the reasoning anyways
But like others said it's really not all that important and really shouldn't be of any concern until you have fruit to pick, what's more important is proper drying and fruiting conditions.
And btw I also think they look much more majestic with flatter caps.


[SIDENOTE]: I want to thank everyone in this thread, I recently overdosed on heroin and I feel like mushrooms have really given me a wake up call. I was passing the H plugs hotel last night and it was swarmed with police. Life is full of invisible blessings. Without the cumulative knowledge of the community I may very well be dead right now, I feel like these shrooms have a purpose in being born under my care, and this website was my most valued tool in my pursuits.





dude same! wow thats tight man. i have been clean off heroin for like 3 weeks now. havnt even thought of it. which is crazy cuz i was pretty bad lol. oded several times in the few short years. i litterally kicked the dope then tripped on mushies and had a trip  about my addictiom and i havnt even thought of it sense.. also the work and the fun of doing the projects helps i turned my focus 180. keep at it bro! the shit aint worth it and you already know that. much love fellow shroomerite


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: ReginaldShowalter]
    #24815164 - 11/29/17 06:57 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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ReginaldShowalter said:
I don't want to derail this Magnificent Shoeboxathon with a harvest survey (though I would love to hear from some TCs).  If this needs to be its own thread, PM me.  I don't really know how that would work yet (not really a forum person).




Hi,

For the most part, making your own thread is fine. However, this forum has had thousands of members posting consistently for over a decade. The vast majority of questions have been asked and answered a hundred times over. If you're smart enough to grow mushrooms, you're smart enough to consider and realize that something as simple as, "How do I harvest mushrooms" has been asked before. I say this not to be condescending or rude, but in an educational way about the forum. You can find so many answers by searching, it's awesome.

Check this: how to harvest


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[SIDENOTE]: I want to thank everyone in this thread, I recently overdosed on heroin and I feel like mushrooms have really given me a wake up call. I was passing the H plugs hotel last night and it was swarmed with police. Life is full of invisible blessings. Without the cumulative knowledge of the community I may very well be dead right now, I feel like these shrooms have a purpose in being born under my care, and this website was my most valued tool in my pursuits.




Amazing grows, bro. Mycology is an amazing hobby. Continue growing and please get whatever (additional) help you need to stay safe. Cheers!


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: stareatclouds]
    #24815392 - 11/29/17 08:50 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Updated Boxes so I tossed a few that were obnoxiously contaminated but in reality everything except one still had contaminations.

Please advise what I should be doing?

200 grams of wet Rye grain to 1000 grams of Coir


This started 4 days ago (I believe contam free)




Mold but small amount in corner



2 little guys in the middle no idea whats going on

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No idea whats going on here

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A few around the outter edge one looks like its about to burst open

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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: TherickSanchez21]
    #24815494 - 11/29/17 09:48 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Got some knots in a lgt shoebox..cant wait for this one to pop off. Treasure coast shoebox coming in with a decent second flush today..


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Variegated]
    #24815651 - 11/29/17 11:25 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Yea I'm doing good, my overdose was a relapse. When they narcanned me and I came back I felt remarkably normal, like waking from a dreamless sleep. I hadn't done boi in 4 months before I met this dealer. I feel much better adjusted


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Hopeless_Hound]
    #24815719 - 11/30/17 12:03 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

That's awesome dude. I'm happy your alive and they did get u with narcan. I've been narcanned a couple times. The shit is wierd lol sobers u right up. Anyway mycology for the win lolzz


My ksss tub put out the first little flush and I'm actually super surprised on the dry weight. These fuckers are super dense.
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mycoshroom1994]
    #24818113 - 12/01/17 12:17 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

I have an uneven pinset coming in on this large B+ MS shoebox that I "cased" at spawning with a thin layer of CVG. I read in CBK's surface conditions not to spray too much after the pinset is in, but I'm unsure when the pinset is uneven like this. Do I spray

a) the whole substrate
b) only the part with the tiny pins
c) stop misting

I'm concerned because I misted my other shoebox too heavily and the pins stopped growing any taller.



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Re: Making shoeboxes *DELETED* [Re: stareatclouds]
    #24818128 - 12/01/17 12:32 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: ReginaldShowalter] * 2
    #24818143 - 12/01/17 12:55 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Okay, so you're actually just kind of a dipshit. No big deal. The post in quotes was a filler query to illustrate that you can use Google, an excellent search engine, to search for whatever the fuck you want. I thought it'd be helpful since you're, "not really a forum person" and you're asking harvesting questions in a thread specific to shoebox growing. Sorry, I should've given more credit to someone who's been sifting through outdated search results for 2 years on why people might harvest later than others.

What if I told you that Google has a built-in feature to show posts from only a custom date range? Is that something you might be interested in? Yay, no more 15+ year old threads for you to bitch about. You know, less chaos, because it's the best search engine in the world which has all Shroomery posts indexed? Sorry, I thought that was a helpful post for you. If you change your search to queries involving, "best harvest time" and such, you'll find discussions like these over and over and over.

Look, here's a dozen threads on the optimal harvest time, where people share their opinions on this very topic!

After 2 years you're stumped as to why some people harvest mushrooms after the veil tears? Because some people want as much weight as possible? Because some folks don't give a shit about the spores dropping? Because people have tons of tubs, actual jobs, kids, and other life requirements that get in the way? You need a poll to realize not every single person grows mushrooms the same way? There isn't a definitive reason. We theorize tons about mushrooms and there's no magical date/time/instance where we know for sure, "THIS IS 100% THE MOST OPTIMAL TIME TO HARVEST!"

That's why you're getting the answers you're getting. They're mushrooms. Just pick them when they're mature. Damn.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: ReginaldShowalter]
    #24818163 - 12/01/17 01:25 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Unfortunately we don't know the answer and most likely won't for quite a while. Potency is a very subjective thing without actual data.

Without concrete data on when mushrooms are the most potent in their life cycle we only have personal preference and experience.

Until some definitive scientific experiments on this subject are completed no one has that answer for you. I think that is what most people here are trying to get at. The best we can do is have a preference.

Think of all the factors in determining  potency without actual data. Nutrient, conditions,  genetics, the persons perception of their trip and the reasoning they attribute to that.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Aunit]
    #24818252 - 12/01/17 03:50 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Ultimately your mushrooms will be at "peak potency" throughout their entire life.

People say that pins are slightly more potent than mature mushrooms or that they are not producing actives once the viel tears but I tend to disagree.

I have tried on many occasions just pins and just mature fruits and found no difference in the trips as far as strength

as well as before veil tearing and after spores dropping into a black mess.

all the same for potency.

this has been discussed countless times on this forum and these are from less than a month ago
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24760485#24760485
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tombosley8 said:
Also the caps will turn lighter and the gills will darken with spores and you'll see the start of the spores dropping on the stems and caps
and here's something I wrote sometime back:
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tombosley8 said:
I go just before they goe everywhere.
it's different every grow but I usually go by how far the cap is spread and it's color but mostly the color of the gills and if you see any spores dropped yet.

First sign of any dropping and they are ready.

But I do agree they pack some weight in between the veil breaking and spores releasing.

oh yeah also want to note that if you let the caps open up too much they become very brittle once dry compared to a nice sturdy more closed cap fruit.
I found anywhere before a flat to upward turning cap is best but that can also vary per genetics and conditions.






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You can kinda see the different stages here.

Once the caps turn upward and/or they have released a bunch of spores all over your beautiful fruits you know they've gone too far.




this is the furthest I lke to let them go:
but preferably before the spores drop


NICE GROW btw!

give us a shot tomorrow to see where they're at...




You want to have full fruiting potential meaning the most that they will grow. They'll be as potent as ever at full growth.

Once they start sporing they are pretty much done growing so there is no reason to let them spore all over and look ugly.

I don't find any difference in taste between spored and premature mushrooms.

of course all subjective but I give you my word I have tested to the best of my abilities.

Sorry Mushboy :derail:  :underageban:  mush luv also,
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Aunit said:Think of all the factors in determining  potency without actual data. Nutrient, conditions,  genetics, the persons perception of their trip and the reasoning they attribute to that.


this.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mycoshroom1994]
    #24818577 - 12/01/17 09:23 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Awesome man! I've been off that shit for years.  What a nightmare dope is.  Today you could get some rc fentanyl and die just from opening the fucking bag.  Not worth it that's for sure.

Keep on keeping on.  Dive into the natural realms of psychedelics and cannabis and all will be well.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: sir_spins_alot]
    #24819246 - 12/01/17 02:38 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Germs]
    #24819819 - 12/01/17 06:50 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

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Boner alert!


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Alpineswift]
    #24819825 - 12/01/17 06:54 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Those are beautiful, Germs,


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: TaderHoagie]
    #24820804 - 12/02/17 09:09 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

I am fucking excited. I get to spawn 5 shoeboxes today. The 1st thing I have spawned in a few months, only had some cakes going. Fucking LGT clone, and I hope it fruits as fast as the ones it came from. I was picking fruits on the 10th day from spawn, so wish me luck that the clone performs this way.


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