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mushboy
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Making shoeboxes 93
#24038695 - 01/25/17 01:38 PM (7 years, 3 days ago) |
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I was bored. made a shoebox write up. couldnt find too many. made it simple.
Experience shoeboxes Small spawn trays by Ziran Stoopid simple way to fruit your shoebox
GET YOUR FIELD CAPACITY DOWN!!
Shoeboxes are a lot of fun. they are a great go-between from trays in a sgfc to full blown monos. a normal tote can hold 3 shoeboxes/trays. You can also just crack the lid and fruit inside its own tote. super multitasking.

Each tray can hold up to six quarts. you can make some hefty trays with a 1:1 ratio. normally i do 2 quarts spawn and 2quarts cvg. Filling up the mono with the trays is basically they same as doing a mono. the same principals of the mono are in play. a good thing is that if 1 tray goes bad you can localize and toss it without disrupting the remaining trays. seeing a speck of trich on a gaint mono sucks ass.
I use 80qt totes.

Each shoebox is about a dollar depending on where you shop. i prefer to grab them at target. the ones at mega hardware stores are always filthy with thick dust. the ones at target are always super clean. i avoid walmart at all costs.

Get you spawn ready! today will be 2 quarts of AA+, 2q of mexican(cube) and 1q from a jar that had the label fall off. oops. 

Take your coco based substrate(I PCed mine in 4qt batches)

Then i dump my spawn in the shoebox.
 dump in 1.5 quarts... roughly.. of PCVG.

Mix it all up really good. get in the corners. be thorough. I just use gloves wiped with iso. you can go bare handed but i hate dirty nails.
 Make it as level as you possibly can. I get really upset with myself if i do not make them level.
I then clean up the edges with a wet iso cloth and apply the remaining half Q(roughly) as a top layer to cover grains and make level.

4 total quarts fills it right to the fabricated ridge in the tote. makes leveling easier 
  SUPER OCD ABOUT BEING LEVEL!
Sometimes you realize you didnt mix it up that well.. its not a big deal but try to mix it up your best.

Thats all. repeat as needed. Label as desired. I like to label with..
-variety -date when tray was made(today) -how much and what type of sub used
when you have lot of different things going, proper labeling is super important
 (i cracked my tote. fixed it with packing tape. who cares)
Edited by mushboy (06/25/18 09:31 AM)
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mushboy
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Pastywhyte said:
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mushboy said: its about water. more water=larger fruits. larger substrates will have more water for a mushroom to feed from.
but 1.5inch subs can put out monsters easily if hydrated.

This. Available water and specific genetics has more to do with fruit size than sub persay. Of course a large bulk sub has a lot more water to draw from which often results in larger fruits but, you can get big fruits from even a pf cake if you supply enough water.
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy] 3
#24038954 - 01/25/17 03:25 PM (7 years, 3 days ago) |
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mushboy said: thb, i dont know the same one i get for my SAB and cat boxes they fit really snug.. sometimes slightly up on each other but only a bit

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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy] 24
#24039736 - 01/25/17 08:25 PM (7 years, 3 days ago) |
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started using em round 2 years ago and now they are all I use anymore 
I don't put them in monos thou. I either just leave the lids on or dub them.
   
  

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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Grambo] 2
#24039863 - 01/25/17 09:15 PM (7 years, 3 days ago) |
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I've had 2 "shoeboxes" sitting around for months now. You've inspired me to actually put them to use. I think I'm finally gunna spawn 3 mycoquarts of APE to half a brick of coir and let it consolidate in there for a while before taking up monotub space. I'll keep ya posted! Just waiting on spawn to finish colonizing.
I can fit two of thsee in a standard 66qt mono perfectly.

Munch are these the same as yours? What do you do to fruit them?
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Munchauzen


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nope. mine are smaller. no latching lid either.

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Munchauzen said: I don't put them in monos thou. I either just leave the lids on or dub them.
 
and in my experience, they didnt do well when i modded them for poly holes. too much fae and they dried out. straight unmodded dubs worked the best when the space was needed. fruits like APE i just leave the lid on. no need for dubbing. they get plenty of FAE either way.
Edited by Munchauzen (01/25/17 09:35 PM)
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ComebackKid said: They get enough FAE wit the lids left on? Gunna have to search up the dub method
yes.
what is there to search? look at that picture. you simply place a 2nd tub on top. thats it. no tape. no holes. put a 2nd tub on top. end of story 
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Munchauzen said: started using em round 2 years ago and now they are all I use anymore 
I don't put them in monos thou. I either just leave the lids on or dub them.
   
  
 
God they want FAE so bad lol. I love APE pics though. Ever measure your Biological Efficiency?
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Is this what you're talking about? Ever have any contamination issues this way
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bodhisatta said: This thread is Bod approved. 
I should make a stamp of approval. I hate to be that jaded, oh well
Figured those where ess, that's how they look lol
 Bod Baeumler approved
 Bod approves this method
 ^this is how I will forever picture bodhisatta now
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Substrate surface conditions / Monotub prep and care
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Loveshroomz777 said: Is this what you're talking about? Ever have any contamination issues this way
plastic doesn't cause contamination no.
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ComebackKid said:
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bodhisatta said: This thread is Bod approved. 
I should make a stamp of approval. I hate to be that jaded, oh well
Figured those where ess, that's how they look lol
 Bod Baeumler approved
 Bod approves this method
 ^this is how I will forever picture bodhisatta now
a little less white nationalist on the outside, a little bit more than that guy on the inside
and I can thank my wife for not having a huge forearm, or two for that matter
https://what-buddha-said.net/gallery/var/resizes/Dhamma-illustrations/The_2nd_great_dream_of_the_Bodhisatta.jpg?m=1388906575 LOL check out this picture
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ComebackKid said:
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bodhisatta said: This thread is Bod approved. 
I should make a stamp of approval. I hate to be that jaded, oh well
Figured those where ess, that's how they look lol
 Bod Baeumler approved
 Bod approves this method
 ^this is how I will forever picture bodhisatta now

[edit to add relevance] I'm gonna try me first hand at these sheoboxes too methinks
-------------------- Have fun on harvest day!
Edited by Aneres (01/27/17 05:58 PM)
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Munchauzen said: started using em round 2 years ago and now they are all I use anymore 
I don't put them in monos thou. I either just leave the lids on or dub them.
   
  
 
Are those 12qt? They look bigger than 6qt
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Brain Fart said: Are those 12qt? They look bigger than 6qt
no
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Munchauzen said:
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Brain Fart said: Are those 12qt? They look bigger than 6qt
no
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Thx boss. Last question do you just wait for pins then crack the lid? Or feuit invitro
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Mr Piggy] 2
#24047759 - 01/28/17 11:27 PM (7 years, 2 hours ago) |
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6 qt shoeboxes ftw I too fruit in Mono's, but these monos are 105 qt
   
   
Lol@the person asking if they produce smaller fruits 
 
These are actually not even the biggest I've grown indoors on trays. Biggest was 18g dry.
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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Dactylium]
#24048275 - 01/29/17 08:23 AM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Cambo was third flush so yea bit bigger But the AA+ is first flush
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mushboy
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The Sloth said: I'm curious why there are no liners on the shoeboxes?....
i hate making them and thb (elite shroomery attitude incoming) i think of them as a crutch for side pins. if your surface conditions are on point you do not get side pins. side pins mean your surface conditions are off. the pins prefer to grow elsewhere. I want them to grow on the surface. so i better figure out what they want that im not goving them... ya dig?

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Is there a functional reason for their absence or are these containers small enough it just isn't worth the trouble?
since a shoebox is handheld you can clean it out with a paper towel and your mister. it is not worth the trouble for me. i find making liners extremely difficult for some reason. and after all. im trying to grow mushrooms. not play arts n crafts.
also you can spot contams and see if your spawn develops bacteria during fruiting.
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#24069448 - 02/06/17 09:51 AM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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