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mushhiehunter
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Ideal home for Tampanensis??
#24037709 - 01/25/17 02:57 AM (7 years, 5 days ago) |
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So since Tamps don't like shaking and take so long anyway, I'm thinking to use a big ass jar for them. Only one fits into my PC but I might as well try it. Anyone sees any possible downsides or problems? (besides puting many egs in one basket)..

It is around 6 quarts of volume if anyone wants to know...
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You should PC a jar of this size for at least 3 hours. Sclerotia producing species tend to produce stones between the substrate and the glass. So it might be more beneficial to use more jars with more surface area instead of one big jar.
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enlightenment said: You should PC a jar of this size for at least 3 hours. Sclerotia producing species tend to produce stones between the substrate and the glass. So it might be more beneficial to use more jars with more surface area instead of one big jar.
I believe that the part about sclerotia forming on the outer edges could be false, I remember RR mentioning it as a myth. Are you talking from experience??
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Yes I am talking from experience. It is possible that you get a culture that forms sclerotia inside the grain. But in most cases you won't find much 'stones' in the middle of the grain. The center of the jar feels pretty dry after several months of growth.
If you want to get big stones in short time you could spawn grain to coir.
 750 ml jar. ~20g yield after 3 months
spawned the jar to 750ml coir/verm (8:2):

After 4 weeks over 100g of big sclerotia:

It seems that sclerotia forms much faster and better in bulk substrates. I am examining the reasons for this behavior. I planned to make a lot of test about sclerotia producing species this year.
Edited by enlightenment (01/25/17 03:53 AM)
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mushhiehunter
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enlightenment said: Yes I am talking from experience. It is possible that you get a culture that forms sclerotia inside the grain. But in most cases you won't find much 'stones' in the middle of the grain. The center of the jar feels pretty dry after several months of growth.
If you want to get big stones in short time you could spawn grain to coir.
 750 ml jar. ~20g yield after 3 months
spawned the jar to 750ml coir/verm (8:2):

After 4 weeks over 100g of big sclerotia:

It seems that sclerotia forms much faster and better in bulk substrates. I am examining the reasons for this behavior. I planned to make a lot of test about sclerotia producing species this year.
So maybe use the big one, then rehydrate and spawn after 3 months? Also how long was the spawn-run and did you fruit them?
Edited by mushhiehunter (01/25/17 04:48 AM)
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mushhiehunter
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enlightenment said: Yes I am talking from experience. It is possible that you get a culture that forms sclerotia inside the grain. But in most cases you won't find much 'stones' in the middle of the grain. The center of the jar feels pretty dry after several months of growth.
If you want to get big stones in short time you could spawn grain to coir.
 750 ml jar. ~20g yield after 3 months
spawned the jar to 750ml coir/verm (8:2):

After 4 weeks over 100g of big sclerotia:

It seems that sclerotia forms much faster and better in bulk substrates. I am examining the reasons for this behavior. I planned to make a lot of test about sclerotia producing species this year.
Even better might be to use a big spawn bag and flatten the spawn out in the bag to maximize the surface area.. We could brainstorm and split the research between us. If you are interested, PM me!
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