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Offlinebeforethedawn
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Separation between inner and outer
    #24037543 - 01/24/17 11:24 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

At all times, strangely and beautifully,

not there.

Somehow the world is continuous with your actual self, your actual mind.

That's what I see now and I've been through pathology, this is not pathology. I'm clear, I'm calm, and it's beautiful.

Sort of like walking through a storybook.

Discuss.

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Re: Separation between inner and outer [Re: beforethedawn]
    #24037579 - 01/24/17 11:52 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

this story book has had some really shitty parts a lot recently. XD


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Re: Separation between inner and outer [Re: Ziran]
    #24037622 - 01/25/17 12:29 AM (7 years, 6 days ago)

Where is both inner and outer taking place?
That's the place to peer into.


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Re: Separation between inner and outer [Re: Tmethyl]
    #24037647 - 01/25/17 01:01 AM (7 years, 6 days ago)

its taking place here and now. and where that is? :shrug:


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Re: Separation between inner and outer [Re: Ziran]
    #24037661 - 01/25/17 01:22 AM (7 years, 5 days ago)

Where is here and now taking place? :awesomenod:


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Re: Separation between inner and outer [Re: Tmethyl]
    #24037698 - 01/25/17 02:36 AM (7 years, 5 days ago)

Everyone has a conception of the inner vs the outer. I think that distinction is the most basic element of life. A river doesn't really have a conception of inner or outer, but a bat does.


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Re: Separation between inner and outer [Re: blingbling]
    #24037924 - 01/25/17 07:26 AM (7 years, 5 days ago)

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blingbling said:
Everyone has a conception of the inner vs the outer. I think that distinction is the most basic element of life. A river doesn't really have a conception of inner or outer, but a bat does.




As I poked my finger into the hole in the wall to check for insulation, the rustling of the bat that lives in the barn made me jump back.  He came out and peered into my eyes with his beady little bat eyes.  I went back outside.  The barn is officially his, for now.

For now.


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Re: Separation between inner and outer [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #24039649 - 01/25/17 07:41 PM (7 years, 5 days ago)

Bats are my favorite...  Does he have a name?

Separation of inner and outer is an interesting thing.  Some say an illusion, yet it makes sense to have boundaries of personal space and so forth - dissolution of the being is not a very good goal, or at least - it certainly wouldn't attend any other goals.


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Re: Separation between inner and outer [Re: graceful dragon]
    #24039796 - 01/25/17 08:47 PM (7 years, 5 days ago)

I don't think it is an illusion in the sense that life tends towards maintaining its physiochemical integrity in contrast to an unpredictable outer world. This is a demonstrable fact. This could also be construed as a basis for morality, as you've pointed out regarding personal space.


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Kupo said:
let's fuel the robots with psilocybin.

cez said:
everyone should smoke dmt for religion.

dustinthewind13 said:
euthanasia and prostitution should be legal and located in the same building.

White Beard said:
if you see the buddha on the road, rape him, then kill him. then rape him again.


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Re: Separation between inner and outer [Re: blingbling] * 1
    #24042937 - 01/27/17 03:27 AM (7 years, 3 days ago)

Well, literally everything we perceive as "outer" must be intepreted through the "inner" , as such, its all inner, you are the master who makes the grass green.


Edited by hTx (01/27/17 03:28 AM)


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Re: Separation between inner and outer [Re: hTx]
    #24042967 - 01/27/17 04:36 AM (7 years, 3 days ago)

No matter where the line is drawn between inner and outer, there always seems to be a grey area in the middle.  A little of bit the outer inside the inner, a little yin in the yang


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Re: Separation between inner and outer [Re: hTx]
    #24043416 - 01/27/17 10:40 AM (7 years, 3 days ago)

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hTx said:
Well, literally everything we perceive as "outer" must be intepreted through the "inner" , as such, its all inner, you are the master who makes the grass green.



Even inner is perceived in awareness, thus awareness or consciousness gives birth to inner and outer, and the rest of the universe as well.


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Re: Separation between inner and outer [Re: Tmethyl]
    #24045640 - 01/28/17 02:34 AM (7 years, 2 days ago)

What is consciousness if it is not an inner experience?


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Kupo said:
let's fuel the robots with psilocybin.

cez said:
everyone should smoke dmt for religion.

dustinthewind13 said:
euthanasia and prostitution should be legal and located in the same building.

White Beard said:
if you see the buddha on the road, rape him, then kill him. then rape him again.


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Re: Separation between inner and outer [Re: Tmethyl]
    #24045683 - 01/28/17 04:16 AM (7 years, 2 days ago)

Quote:

Tmethyl said:
Where is both inner and outer taking place?
That's the place to peer into.



This is actually really profound. :thumbup:


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Re: Separation between inner and outer [Re: beforethedawn]
    #24045756 - 01/28/17 06:45 AM (7 years, 2 days ago)

the outer is the visual representation of the inner. so there's really no need to dive deep within yourself when all your inner stuff is right in front of you to deal with.  and you deal with it by forgiving it cus when you forgive the outer, the inner is healed also. this is how you escape the dream or at least learn to live lucidly within it. according to a course in miracles anyways.


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Re: Separation between inner and outer [Re: blingbling]
    #24046419 - 01/28/17 12:55 PM (7 years, 2 days ago)

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blingbling said:
What is consciousness if it is not an inner experience?



Consciousness is so pure that even the concept of "inner" is arising in it.
It would seem that consciousness is a product of the mind, but it's the exact opposite.
This is your direct experience right now, simply put, what watches the mind?
What has been watching your entire 'life' but was never affected by it?
Even in severe pain, is the awareness of the pain in pain?
No, just thoughts call it pain, and this labeling creates the pain.


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Re: Separation between inner and outer [Re: Tmethyl]
    #24046890 - 01/28/17 04:27 PM (7 years, 2 days ago)

Awareness of pain, or thought, what we now call mindfulness, is an aspect of inner experience in my opinion. That which is aware of a thought is just another kind of thinking.


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Kupo said:
let's fuel the robots with psilocybin.

cez said:
everyone should smoke dmt for religion.

dustinthewind13 said:
euthanasia and prostitution should be legal and located in the same building.

White Beard said:
if you see the buddha on the road, rape him, then kill him. then rape him again.


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Re: Separation between inner and outer [Re: Tmethyl]
    #24046938 - 01/28/17 04:48 PM (7 years, 2 days ago)

Quote:

Tmethyl said:
Where is both inner and outer taking place?
That's the place to peer into.




I think that perhaps it has something to do with the branching of the human nervous system.


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Re: Separation between inner and outer [Re: beforethedawn]
    #24068206 - 02/05/17 06:10 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

I like the topic and the bat story, but not the pictures


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Re: Separation between inner and outer [Re: redgreenvines]
    #24132558 - 03/02/17 11:32 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

:lol:

Tmythel it sounds like you are really on the way to becoming a buddha. Very precise understanding...

Remember, suffering is the way unto God.

And also,
following graceful dragon's suggestion,
calm, beautiful music -



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