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First Time Using New Pressure Cooker and Myco Bags How Much Water?
    #24036585 - 01/24/17 04:49 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

I have a 16 quart presto pressure cooker and went through the manual it says no matter what I am canning to add 3 quarts of water. Thats 12 cups does that sound right? Is adding a little more water better. I have three medium sized mycobags that I sealed with packing tape and I was going to lay them in there with the filter up and exposed should I cover the filter with a towel or leave it exposed. I plan to bring it to 15 psi for 90 minutes does everything sound right dont want an explosion.:smirk:


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Re: First Time Using New Pressure Cooker and Myco Bags How Much Water? [Re: 2141zach]
    #24036592 - 01/24/17 04:51 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

u want to add as much water as possible.

Ive ran out of water mid-PCing many times, not cool and actually dangerous.

Add as much water as possible IMO.


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Re: First Time Using New Pressure Cooker and Myco Bags How Much Water? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #24036597 - 01/24/17 04:52 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

As much water without covering the filters?


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Re: First Time Using New Pressure Cooker and Myco Bags How Much Water? [Re: 2141zach]
    #24036602 - 01/24/17 04:54 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

I use like 3-4 quarts in my presto 23

90m is for jars. For bags I would do no less than 2-3 hours


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Re: First Time Using New Pressure Cooker and Myco Bags How Much Water? [Re: 2141zach]
    #24036610 - 01/24/17 04:55 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

pretty much. Leave some room, say 3-4 inches or so for the bubbling action of boiling water.

I would add 12 cups of water then see where its at then add more cups untill u are 3-4 inches from the bag filters. Count each extra cup for future reference.


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Re: First Time Using New Pressure Cooker and Myco Bags How Much Water? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #24036884 - 01/24/17 06:24 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

You're gonna want to have a longer run with bags than jars, as bodhisatta says. Also keep the bags apart or do even longer runs.

I had a Presto 23q and the wobble thing was wobbling a lot and I lost a lot of water.

With the AA921 I figured if I kept the wobbling to a small burst every other minute, it still had the right pressure but lost no water.

The AA was for sure better imo but I GUESS it would work out the same with the Presto. Perhaps someone could chime in here and save you a lot of water and unnecessary worrying.

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Re: First Time Using New Pressure Cooker and Myco Bags How Much Water? [Re: Psilocopher]
    #24036896 - 01/24/17 06:29 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

People use pressure cookers wrong you only have to maintain 15psi the weight should barely jiggle. I throw extra weight on my weight. So i can keep it at 15 and it doesn't tick at all period. Barely any water loss over two hours.


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Re: First Time Using New Pressure Cooker and Myco Bags How Much Water? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24037171 - 01/24/17 08:20 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

you want the weight to wobble right? It says to wait to put the weight on after some steam comes out.


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Re: First Time Using New Pressure Cooker and Myco Bags How Much Water? [Re: 2141zach]
    #24037216 - 01/24/17 08:34 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

well here it goes hope nothing explodes :smile:


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Re: First Time Using New Pressure Cooker and Myco Bags How Much Water? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24037724 - 01/25/17 03:38 AM (7 years, 5 days ago)

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People use pressure cookers wrong you only have to maintain 15psi the weight should barely jiggle. I throw extra weight on my weight. So i can keep it at 15 and it doesn't tick at all period. Barely any water loss over two hours.




Isnt that an explosion hazard?


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Re: First Time Using New Pressure Cooker and Myco Bags How Much Water? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #24037785 - 01/25/17 04:57 AM (7 years, 5 days ago)

Not unless a bag or something gets caught in the pressure release/relief valve. Even then the weight would shoot off before the whole rig went.


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Re: First Time Using New Pressure Cooker and Myco Bags How Much Water? [Re: Adden]
    #24037814 - 01/25/17 05:31 AM (7 years, 5 days ago)

Hmmmm....u may have a point there...


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Re: First Time Using New Pressure Cooker and Myco Bags How Much Water? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #24037835 - 01/25/17 06:00 AM (7 years, 5 days ago)

There's really a long line of things that have to happen in the right order with the proper types of failures down the line for one of these to go.


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Re: First Time Using New Pressure Cooker and Myco Bags How Much Water? [Re: Adden]
    #24037993 - 01/25/17 08:16 AM (7 years, 5 days ago)

I stopped it last night because steam was coming out of the air vent the thing that says top and is supposed to pop up before any pressure builds am I just supposed to wait for it to pop up is the steam normal?


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Re: First Time Using New Pressure Cooker and Myco Bags How Much Water? [Re: 2141zach]
    #24038035 - 01/25/17 08:39 AM (7 years, 5 days ago)

Read the instructions (I'm not kidding).


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Re: First Time Using New Pressure Cooker and Myco Bags How Much Water? [Re: Adden]
    #24038042 - 01/25/17 08:43 AM (7 years, 5 days ago)

I have it says it will pop up before any pressure it doesnt mention steam at all? It doesnt say... Theres no risk of explosion at this point does anyone have this kind of pressure cooker it so hard to find aomeone online just using one.


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Re: First Time Using New Pressure Cooker and Myco Bags How Much Water? [Re: 2141zach]
    #24038050 - 01/25/17 08:46 AM (7 years, 5 days ago)

I think I let it pop up before I add the weight I added it as soon as i saw steam last time,  Ok working now I am at 14 pounds going for 90 mins


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Re: First Time Using New Pressure Cooker and Myco Bags How Much Water? [Re: Adden]
    #24038200 - 01/25/17 09:52 AM (7 years, 5 days ago)

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Read the instructions (I'm not kidding).




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Re: First Time Using New Pressure Cooker and Myco Bags How Much Water? [Re: mushboy]
    #24038207 - 01/25/17 09:54 AM (7 years, 5 days ago)

It popped up I'm 30 minutes in at 15 ish probably 14 but the weight is rocking at 14 ish so I am leaving it there.


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Re: First Time Using New Pressure Cooker and Myco Bags How Much Water? [Re: 2141zach]
    #24038214 - 01/25/17 09:56 AM (7 years, 5 days ago)

make sure you read the instructions tho.

a pc is extremely dangerous if misused.


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Re: First Time Using New Pressure Cooker and Myco Bags How Much Water? [Re: mushboy]
    #24038218 - 01/25/17 09:57 AM (7 years, 5 days ago)

I have the same one and yes you want to wait until the thing pops up. You then put the weight on and that's when the pressure will start building slowly.

In my experience sometimes it doesn't pop up after a long while for whatever reason so I get a knife of something with a thin edge and I nudge it a little and it pops up then I can put the weight on and build the pressure but that is only when it is abnormally long before it pops up.


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Re: First Time Using New Pressure Cooker and Myco Bags How Much Water? [Re: mushboy]
    #24038228 - 01/25/17 10:00 AM (7 years, 5 days ago)

I read the instructions multiple times I just wanted your guys opinion as well. The only thing I am worried about is how fast the water will evaporate at this psi? will 90 minutes be safe? I am well over 3 quarts of water but I couldnt find any info on this its much more water people would use for jars I think because the bags are so much taller than jars.


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Re: First Time Using New Pressure Cooker and Myco Bags How Much Water? [Re: 2141zach]
    #24038243 - 01/25/17 10:06 AM (7 years, 5 days ago)

I have an AA but one inch of water will last 3 cycles for me. at least. :shrug:


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Re: First Time Using New Pressure Cooker and Myco Bags How Much Water? [Re: mushboy]
    #24038256 - 01/25/17 10:12 AM (7 years, 5 days ago)

Do you have your weight rocking the whole time though?


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Re: First Time Using New Pressure Cooker and Myco Bags How Much Water? [Re: 2141zach]
    #24038296 - 01/25/17 10:36 AM (7 years, 5 days ago)

i vent for like 5 or 10 min while i clean up the kitchen... but then toss the weight on and wait until it hits desired pressure then turn stove to med heat.

my weight spits or rocks 2 or 3 times per min. anything higher is just a waste.


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Re: First Time Using New Pressure Cooker and Myco Bags How Much Water? [Re: mushboy]
    #24038347 - 01/25/17 10:57 AM (7 years, 5 days ago)

But what is your weight set to if its 15 then it should rock constantly and steam


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    #24038363 - 01/25/17 11:05 AM (7 years, 5 days ago)

it doesnt have to rock constantly to be at 15psi. the AA weight has 3 settings.
with smaller holes corresponding to higher psi.

the instructions say. the weight should rattle a few times per minute.
excessive shaking leads to drying out... or something i cant find my instructions.

when i take a piss i just pee. i dont need to 'force down' at a higher pressure to piss.. if that makes since...


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Re: First Time Using New Pressure Cooker and Myco Bags How Much Water? [Re: mushboy] * 1
    #24038372 - 01/25/17 11:12 AM (7 years, 5 days ago)

Dude i let my pc throw steam till that toggle thing is up and wait another few minutes that tells ypu no air pockets are in the pc it takes maybe 30 minutes to get to that point then i throw on my weight and turn stove down once at 15 to maintain the 15... also there is a saftey plug on prestos that will blow out after 20 something psi


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Re: First Time Using New Pressure Cooker and Myco Bags How Much Water? [Re: 2141zach]
    #24038375 - 01/25/17 11:14 AM (7 years, 5 days ago)

3 hours for bags.
Slowly bring up in pressure and slowly back down.
Packing tape to seal?... That'll melt or just come off... Try TIEING the tops.

Run an experiment with just an empty PC and see how long 3 quarts of water lasts.


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Re: First Time Using New Pressure Cooker and Myco Bags How Much Water? [Re: mushboy]
    #24038394 - 01/25/17 11:22 AM (7 years, 5 days ago)

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it doesnt have to rock constantly to be at 15psi. the AA weight has 3 settings.
with smaller holes corresponding to higher psi.

the instructions say. the weight should rattle a few times per minute.
excessive shaking leads to drying out... or something i cant find my instructions.

when i take a piss i just pee. i dont need to 'force down' at a higher pressure to piss.. if that makes since...




But I dont have an AA weight My weight rocks before 15psi even and at 15psi it rocks more and throws more steam out its designed to do so. My weight is set at 15. My worry is at that psi steam is coming out as apposed to 10 or 11 where no steam coming out or very little. It seemed to work fine for me this time I will see how they turned out though and how much water is remaning. Three hours seems excessive for medium bags actually these may be small bags should be the same as jars anyways no matter the size shouldn't it?


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Re: First Time Using New Pressure Cooker and Myco Bags How Much Water? [Re: Jabensis]
    #24038399 - 01/25/17 11:23 AM (7 years, 5 days ago)

For presto PCs the weight rocks back and forth at 15 psi. For other brands it varies. I had a Mirro and it wasnt a stead back and forth.

My first run on the Presto I used 3 quarts and it was fine for 90 minutes, a lot of the water was still there.  I was using quart jars. My second run I only filled about 1.5 quarts of water and at the end of 90 minutes it was dangerously low. Could have been bad news.


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Re: First Time Using New Pressure Cooker and Myco Bags How Much Water? [Re: fatmatic]
    #24038412 - 01/25/17 11:30 AM (7 years, 5 days ago)

Good to know, yeah thats scary I think 3 quarts is the standard makes me wonder how small you can go with your jars though.


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Re: First Time Using New Pressure Cooker and Myco Bags How Much Water? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24038515 - 01/25/17 12:16 PM (7 years, 5 days ago)

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People use pressure cookers wrong you only have to maintain 15psi the weight should barely jiggle. I throw extra weight on my weight. So i can keep it at 15 and it doesn't tick at all period. Barely any water loss over two hours.



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