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SGFC Size?
    #24015389 - 01/16/17 05:40 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

What would be the minimum recommended height of a storage tote for 5 cakes?

Home depot has 6 or 16qt bins which are 7in tall or should I go with a taller one like a 27qt?

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Re: SGFC Size? [Re: Bluetang99]
    #24015441 - 01/16/17 06:06 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Imangine it full of perlite and cakes and mushrooms.  Does it fit?  Go bigger with the 27.


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Re: SGFC Size? [Re: wtfcrazymofo]
    #24015460 - 01/16/17 06:15 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Taller.  Remember you're going to want 4-5 inches of perlite in there to set your cakes on, and then mushrooms are going to grow up off the cake.

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Re: SGFC Size? [Re: magicMerlin]
    #24015494 - 01/16/17 06:29 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Alright cool, I'll get the bigger one.

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Re: SGFC Size? [Re: Bluetang99]
    #24015534 - 01/16/17 06:49 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Get the smaller one and turn it into a mini monotub
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Re: SGFC Size? [Re: ComebackKid]
    #24015539 - 01/16/17 06:51 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

:whathesaid:

mini with 4 quart tray and top fruiting jar. i leave the lid opened to help pinning.

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Re: SGFC Size? [Re: ComebackKid]
    #24015802 - 01/16/17 08:27 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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mini with 4 quart tray and top fruiting jar. i leave the lid opened to help pinning.




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Get the smaller one and turn it into a mini monotub
Join the movement #phasingoutsgfc




Oh hell yeah I'm definitely doing that next. My wife's PC is small, basically used for making pot roast so the smaller the grow the better.

Also, what's the advantage of a SGFC chamber? Wouldn't I be able to control humidity better with a sealed tub and just fan/mist a few times a day?

Edited by Bluetang99 (01/16/17 08:36 PM)

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Re: SGFC Size? [Re: mushboy]
    #24015808 - 01/16/17 08:29 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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mini with 4 quart tray and top fruiting jar. i leave the lid opened to help pinning.





What size tub is that, 27qt? That looks like a decent size.

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Re: SGFC Size? [Re: Bluetang99]
    #24015844 - 01/16/17 08:39 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I don't think anyone should go above the size of half of this. I forget what size but I think 100? Once the 4 inches of perlite gets so heavy, it'll start to bow. Bigger isn't always better. This fit 24-30. Two SGFC's built to spec worked better than a big honking bastard. And since you'll be keeping your sgfc around after you've learned agar and culture work, one that fits 12 or 18 max is probably best.


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Re: SGFC Size? [Re: Adden]
    #24015889 - 01/16/17 08:56 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I don't think anyone should go above the size of half of this. I forget what size but I think 100? Once the 4 inches of perlite gets so heavy, it'll start to bow. Bigger isn't always better. This fit 24-30. Two SGFC's built to spec worked better than a big honking bastard. And since you'll be keeping your sgfc around after you've learned agar and culture work, one that fits 12 or 18 max is probably best.






Does your perlite not fall out of the holes at the bottom?

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Re: SGFC Size? [Re: Bluetang99]
    #24015893 - 01/16/17 08:57 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

nope. maybe a few small pieces. bfd

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Re: SGFC Size? [Re: Adden]
    #24015898 - 01/16/17 08:58 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

You don't really want to be worried about humidity as much as you want to worry about FAE.
FAE is the most important factor in any fruiting chamber. A sealed tub will only suffocate your cakes. Fanning will not help you

SGFC allows constant high passive FAE and works with the perlite to keep RH high enough for your mushrooms (anywhere from 40-70%)
Your substrate must be misted frequently to keep the surface moist.

Monotub works with the substrate to cycle air and keep up RH on its own.
The heat given off from the substrate cycles air through the bottom holes and out the top.
The benifit of a monotub is that you can dial it in to suit the substrates needs during stages of growth and is generally very low maintenance.

Principles of a monotub
Principles of SGFC


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Re: SGFC Size? [Re: ComebackKid]
    #24015922 - 01/16/17 09:06 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)





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You don't really want to be worried about humidity as much as you want to worry about FAE.
FAE is the most important factor in any fruiting chamber. A sealed tub will only suffocate your cakes. Fanning will not help you

SGFC allows constant high passive FAE and works with the perlite to keep RH high enough for your mushrooms (anywhere from 40-70%)
Your substrate must be misted frequently to keep the surface moist.

Monotub works with the substrate to cycle air and keep up RH on its own.
The heat given off from the substrate cycles air through the bottom holes and out the top.
The benifit of a monotub is that you can dial it in to suit the substrates needs during stages of growth and is generally very low maintenance.

Principles of a monotub
Principles of SGFC





Thanks. I guess I shouldn't be too worried with humidity anyway apart from the usual misting, I've got a whole house humidifier going 24/7 and it's around 55-60 RH usually. I was going to buy a hygrometer but I read that those are all Chinese crap and not worth it.

When you mist your SGFC do you mist the substrate and sides or just substrate?

Edited by Bluetang99 (01/16/17 09:07 PM)

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Re: SGFC Size? [Re: Bluetang99]
    #24015995 - 01/16/17 09:37 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

U mist when your cakes look dry.

Mist the cakes then re wet your perlite too. Try avoid spraying the fruits.


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Re: SGFC Size? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #24034952 - 01/24/17 01:00 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I'm still waiting for my cakes to colonize but I actually inoculated 5 more jars that might finish around the same time, maybe give or take a week.

Will a 27 quart tub fit 10 half pint cakes? I didn't read anywhere about how far to space out cakes so I was curious if they would all fit.

What I was hoping to do is place 5 cakes on one side of the tote and then put the other 5 on the other side whenever they're ready to fruit.

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Re: SGFC Size? [Re: Bluetang99]
    #24034956 - 01/24/17 01:05 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

U want to space your cakes about 2-3 inches apart on all sides.

And yes, u can put 5 on one side then add 5 more on the other side no problem.

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Re: SGFC Size? [Re: ComebackKid] * 1
    #24035048 - 01/24/17 02:48 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Get the smaller one and turn it into a mini monotub
Join the movement #phasingoutsgfc



I'm still going to put the sgfc in the dirt. Fuck a monoculture I'll just do a shoot out between the SGFC and top fruiting in a mono with a few clones.

#phasingoutsgfc

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Re: SGFC Size? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #24036423 - 01/24/17 03:48 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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U want to space your cakes about 2-3 inches apart on all sides.

And yes, u can put 5 on one side then add 5 more on the other side no problem.




Cool, I really didn't want to drill 2 tubs. Drilling 1 tub sounds like enough of a pain.

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Re: SGFC Size? [Re: Dactylium]
    #24036521 - 01/24/17 04:24 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Dude a 27qt is the perfect size for a mini mono! Ya Killin Me :lol:


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