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OfflineAik
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Regretting tripping
    #24036253 - 01/24/17 02:51 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

I have an irrational fear that doing so many shrooms (25+ trips) in a year (for the first time) somehow did something bad to me and as if this thing cannot be undone. I don't believe it to be true, it is just an irrational regret, even though I consider meeting shrooms to be the best thing that ever happened to me... I think a lot of this came from studying Buddhism a little... This intensifies every time I see how considerate, serious and careful are people with shroom trips in youtube videos and I feel a negative emotion whenever I see something about psychedelics.
(The same with smoking weed)

I am sober now and doing sober self-improvement.

Does anyone else feel the same way?


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Re: Regretting tripping [Re: Aik]
    #24036287 - 01/24/17 03:03 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

In my personal experience, tripping that excessively caused my mental state to be a bit less stable, (extreme ups, extreme lows, whilst sober inbetween trips)
And also reality was always a bit skewed... in strange ways...

Nothing so intense that I couldn't function in life, but, internally, shit was weird.

I've gone into 2017 with the intention of keeping trips 'sacred' from now on, and only at appropriate times, when things are going right in life.



However, I don't think you should worry too much about anything permanent from mushrooms, whatever mental changes you make on psychs seem to level out after a while of abstinence.


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Re: Regretting tripping [Re: Trypto-Fan]
    #24036357 - 01/24/17 03:22 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

well that wasn't very encouraging


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Re: Regretting tripping [Re: Aik] * 1
    #24036378 - 01/24/17 03:29 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

That's just my experience, everyone's different.

I think as a basic principal, if you have any thoughts that it might be negatively impacting your life, give it a couple of weeks to clear your head. :smile:

I spent nearly 2 years tripping almost every week on average, I think I was definitely overdoing it and in denial about it causing any problems.


As I said, you have almost certainly not "done something bad to you that cannot be undone"

More encouraging? :wink:


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Re: Regretting tripping [Re: Trypto-Fan]
    #24036492 - 01/24/17 04:12 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

OP, take a long break.  there is such a thing as too much of a good thing


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Re: Regretting tripping [Re: LuzaW]
    #24036516 - 01/24/17 04:22 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

You will be fine, don´t worry. 25 trips in a year is a f*** lot for your conciousness to handle. Give yourself time to integrate the experiences. Have a look at your anxiety. If it gets worse over time, you should probably seek a therapist. Don´t worry, you are not insane. He will just help you to integrate and let go of that fear.
Physically, no harm happened to you. Shrooms are not poisenous or neurotoxic and your symptoms do not sound severe.
For sober self improvement, meditation is very beneficial. You could also try to give the trips a deeper meaning. You said, you take them as a sacred thing now. That is the right approach. By that deeper meaning, you add a value and what is valuable doesn´t need to be feared.
I think you are on a good path and your personality will grow. Don´t be affraid, but also don´t overdo it. :smile:


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Re: Regretting tripping [Re: LuzaW]
    #24036588 - 01/24/17 04:49 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

What comes from studying Buddhism? Your "irrational regret"? And what intensifies while watching the videos, the feelings of regret or the feelings that shrooms are the best thing that ever happened to you?

Trying to sort out what you mean.

And I mean....as far as my personal experience/opinion goes, last year was my first year with psychedelics and between shrooms lsd and dmt I probably tripped at least 30 times if not more. And a lot of that was definitely just the initial thrill of discovering psychedelics, and using it to have fun with friends, etc. But now I'm steering more towards using them to heal, spiritually. So do I have regrets about using them? A few, only because it got to the point where I feel like maybe I was 'abusing' them; But I don't regret doing it all entirely, and I certainly have no plans on stopping now that I've grown mentally and have different intentions for them.

Dunno if this gives you some insight or not but good luck with your self-improvement =3

Good energy to you and yours


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Re: Regretting tripping [Re: PickleJam]
    #24037115 - 01/24/17 07:54 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

Give yourself some time to integrate. 25 trips in a year doesn't give you much time between to do so. Take a few months off and you should be back to normal.


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Re: Regretting tripping [Re: BrotherManBill]
    #24037509 - 01/24/17 10:57 PM (7 years, 5 days ago)

I have been taking psychedelics and drugs of all kinds and flavors for more than a few decades and yes, it will change you, changes that cannot be undone, because things truly cannot be unlearned. Once you learn certain things about life, existence, your self, your mind and all its fuckery, your soul, your heart, the list goes on.

The changes are all welcome and invited because even if they seem fucked up they are still a part of you without denial. So embrace and move on, dwelling on things, over analyzing shit, will become redundant, or worse boring, or casual.


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Re: Regretting tripping [Re: Jan Van Hunks]
    #24038590 - 01/25/17 12:52 PM (7 years, 5 days ago)

After all my trips It kinda feel as thought i've been in class for 6hours,I feel so exhausted and mentally tired. See Shrooms are like a teacher, sure the lesson is fun but you have to do some homework on your own after.

To use that analogy, since you are tripping twice a month, you are skipping the homework part and you are going to class without being prepared. You're basically setting yourself for failure because you can't keep up.

I think 6-12 trips a year would be better because it would give you alot of time to reflect on your experience and improve as an individual instead of being in permanent comflict with yourself


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Re: Regretting tripping [Re: Aik]
    #24039385 - 01/25/17 05:46 PM (7 years, 5 days ago)

I've definitly taken mushrooms when I shouldn't have, wouldn't say abused them, cause if i do I'd be bound to getting burned, as you found out.

'Abuse' comes down to personal feeling ultimately and can change over time. I consider every two weeks over a year (personally, when thinking about myself) to be a great disrespect to my relation to mushrooms. I would do them, now a few years after starting growing and having gone through periods of frequent use, a few times a year at most.

In short, taking a break sounds like a good idea, and when/if you return to mushrooms try and have a better understanding of what relationship you want to have with them.


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