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Ayamescajuana
    #24035418 - 01/24/17 08:51 AM (7 years, 6 days ago)

One of you guys has mescajuana in your signature and there have been a lot of other people saying mescaline is really good. I have yet to get a full good dose I think so here goes nothing.

50 g b Caapi powder and a sprinkling of Caapi copy along with probably 10 to 20 g of left over Caapi was heated in a crock pot on low since 2pm yesterday. 2 feet 8 inches of t bridgesii cactus has been simmering since 4ish. Im now reducing the Caapi so I can drink it (2 cups + a bit...) have filtered cactus cut out the white flesh and added more water and am cooking that on high in the crock pot. The other cactus water is on the stove.

And if that is not enough 25 g chacruna and 25 g chaliponga have been cooking on medium in the crock lot since 7am. Am turning up the heat now to get the most reduction before I get room on the stove. Will drink Caapi in about 20 minutes.

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Re: Ayamescajuana [Re: Mike4aco]
    #24035449 - 01/24/17 09:08 AM (7 years, 6 days ago)

BEAUTIFUL!!!! Sounds like you're in for one amazing experience!! Do let us know how it goes!!


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Re: Ayamescajuana [Re: 1Love1]
    #24035477 - 01/24/17 09:21 AM (7 years, 6 days ago)

Mike I saw you where doing a little bit of cocaine recently. From my understanding maoi's and stimulants can have a bad reaction. You are probably more informed then me about this but  I still wanted to voice my concern. Safe travels man.


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Re: Ayamescajuana [Re: SpaceDawg]
    #24035481 - 01/24/17 09:22 AM (7 years, 6 days ago)

Stimulants first ? It was like 12 hours or so ago


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Re: Ayamescajuana [Re: Mike4aco]
    #24035501 - 01/24/17 09:27 AM (7 years, 6 days ago)

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Drugs to Avoid with MAOIs

It's not totally understood how various MAOIs interact with the body. Some are more likely to have negative interactions with foods and drugs than others. To be as safe as possible, avoid the following drugs while you are taking an MAOI antidepressant and for two weeks after stopping it.

    All SSRIs (prozac, zoloft, and several other anti-depressants)
    SSRIs block the reuptake of serotonin in the brain. Because MAOIs inhibit the breakdown of serotonin, the combination of MAOIs and SSRIs can lead to dangerously high levels of serotonin in the brain (serotonin syndrome). Symptoms of serotonin syndrome include nausea, vomiting, blackouts, memory loss, increased blood pressure and increased heart rate.
    Demerol
    Cold preparations (tablets, capsules, or liquids such as Comtrex)
    Cough medications containing decongestants, Dextromethorphan (DXM)1, or Demerol
    Sinus medications
    Nose drops or nasal sprays
    Nasal decongestants
    Hay fever medications
    Diet pills
    Amphetamines --- speed
    MDMA --- Ecstasy
    MDE, MDA, and other "MD" compounds
    Cocaine --- crack


MAOIs can and will dramatically increase the effects of some of these drugs to the point of becoming dangerous. Other plants and chemicals are intentionally combined with some reversible MAOIs (plants such as Syrian Rue or Banisteriopsis Caapi, or their primary active chemicals the harmala alkaloids) to intentionally increase the effects of chemicals such as DMT (as is done in many forms of the ayahuasca brew) or sometimes phenethylamines such as Mescaline or 2-CB. All of these "potentiating" combinations can be dangerous if used improperly.




I know it would not be a good Idea to take stimulants after taking an MAOI. but before? IDK. Cocaine has a pretty short half life so It very well could be out of your system already. But I am not the most informed on these matters.


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Re: Ayamescajuana [Re: SpaceDawg]
    #24035518 - 01/24/17 09:34 AM (7 years, 6 days ago)

Interesting.  I have the brew down to a manageable size. So...cheers. I don't do a lot of cocaine either like maybe 1/3 of a line I smoked and that was it. Hopefully I will be fine.


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Re: Ayamescajuana [Re: Mike4aco]
    #24035528 - 01/24/17 09:36 AM (7 years, 6 days ago)

I'd think you'd be fine.
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Hopefully I will be fine.




I think you'll be good dude. Enjoy :seriousthumbsup:


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Re: Ayamescajuana [Re: SpaceDawg]
    #24035540 - 01/24/17 09:39 AM (7 years, 6 days ago)

Should have boiled it more lol fuck my life my tastebuds are tasteenemies right now


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Re: Ayamescajuana [Re: Mike4aco]
    #24035544 - 01/24/17 09:40 AM (7 years, 6 days ago)

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Mike4aco said:my tastebuds are tasteenemies right now




:somefunnyshit:


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Re: Ayamescajuana [Re: SpaceDawg]
    #24036030 - 01/24/17 01:20 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

Dosing mescaline now.. Tried eating the cactus and there j's no taste left in it or barely any.


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Re: Ayamescajuana [Re: Mike4aco]
    #24036126 - 01/24/17 02:03 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

:popcorn:


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Re: Ayamescajuana [Re: qman]
    #24036347 - 01/24/17 03:20 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

4:20 about to dose the final step. Wish me luck guys lol


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Re: Ayamescajuana [Re: Mike4aco]
    #24037209 - 01/24/17 08:32 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

How are you doing Mike?


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Re: Ayamescajuana [Re: Grey Fox]
    #24037275 - 01/24/17 09:00 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

I was hearing sounds as colors earlier and seeing the color get painted onto things. Still going


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Re: Ayamescajuana [Re: Mike4aco]
    #24037325 - 01/24/17 09:25 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

:cool:

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Re: Ayamescajuana [Re: Mike4aco]
    #24037386 - 01/24/17 09:56 PM (7 years, 5 days ago)

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I was hearing sounds as colors earlier and seeing the color get painted onto things. Still going



I recently learned that what you described is called chromesthesia. I have it, but only when smoking weed or on psychedelics with my eyes closed.

Have a nice and blessed trip, Mike.


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Re: Ayamescajuana [Re: Mike4aco]
    #24037413 - 01/24/17 10:12 PM (7 years, 5 days ago)

That sounds like a pretty big dose man.  What's the deal with taking caapi or rue etc. before shrooms/cacti?  Considering they work without an maoi why take an maoi?  Is it to get the effects of caapi, or does the maoi turn it loose in you stronger than just taking the shrooms/cacti by themselves?  I'm not real well versed in maois.


Who was it that had the mescajuana link in their sig?  They have a lsa link in there too that I want to look at but I'm drawing a blank on their name..


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Re: Ayamescajuana [Re: Amanita86]
    #24037439 - 01/24/17 10:22 PM (7 years, 5 days ago)

Me too lol the Caapi was cause I also dose chacrunaponga too


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Re: Ayamescajuana [Re: Mike4aco]
    #24037450 - 01/24/17 10:27 PM (7 years, 5 days ago)

Logical chaos that's who we are thinking about. This is real synergy Mescajuana


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Re: Ayamescajuana [Re: Mike4aco]
    #24038400 - 01/25/17 11:23 AM (7 years, 5 days ago)

Was this as amazing as it sounds?


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Re: Ayamescajuana [Re: 1Love1]
    #24038532 - 01/25/17 12:23 PM (7 years, 5 days ago)

It was really blissful. I didn't do a good enough extract for the dmt tho and the mescaline made me purge a bit early


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Re: Ayamescajuana [Re: Mike4aco]
    #24039185 - 01/25/17 04:28 PM (7 years, 5 days ago)

Interesting  :takingnotes:

So many questions, so many left out details. I wanna trip report on my desk by Friday night


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Re: Ayamescajuana [Re: Amanita86]
    #24039225 - 01/25/17 04:43 PM (7 years, 5 days ago)

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That sounds like a pretty big dose man.  What's the deal with taking caapi or rue etc. before shrooms/cacti?  Considering they work without an maoi why take an maoi?  Is it to get the effects of caapi, or does the maoi turn it loose in you stronger than just taking the shrooms/cacti by themselves?  I'm not real well versed in maois.


Who was it that had the mescajuana link in their sig?  They have a lsa link in there too that I want to look at but I'm drawing a blank on their name..



The monoamine oxidase system are enzymes in your stomach and body that break down certain chemicals. If you eat mushrooms or what have you, you lose some of the actives because you body breaks them down. Maois stop your body from doing this. That is why you need them to take dmt orally, because it is produced by your body, so it recognizes to break it down before it is absorbed.


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Re: Ayamescajuana [Re: BrotherManBill]
    #24039401 - 01/25/17 05:55 PM (7 years, 5 days ago)

Right, I know that much about them but that's about it.  I didn't realize they would do anything for substances that can make it to your bloodstream without an maoi.
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Me too lol the Caapi was cause I also dose chacrunaponga too



Ahh word, missed that part.

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Logical chaos that's who we are thinking about. This is real synergy Mescajuana



Yeah that's right.  Hella drew a blank.  After looking at his lsa tek I'm not too sure about it.  Lsa seems like trouble to me.  I'd like to give it a run but I'm not sure the pros outweigh the cons.


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Re: Ayamescajuana [Re: Amanita86]
    #24039408 - 01/25/17 05:58 PM (7 years, 5 days ago)

Hey Mike I'm curious how youre feeling the day after

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Re: Ayamescajuana [Re: filthyknees]
    #24039440 - 01/25/17 06:12 PM (7 years, 5 days ago)

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Interesting  :takingnotes:

So many questions, so many left out details. I wanna trip report on my desk by Friday night




Loooooooool Yes!!!


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Re: Ayamescajuana [Re: Amanita86]
    #24039446 - 01/25/17 06:13 PM (7 years, 5 days ago)

LSA was my first real psychedelic experience. I didn't do any type of extraction, just counted out about 450 seeds, chewed them up finely and swallowed em.

I experienced vasoconstriction in my legs (nothing too unbareable) and it took about 2hrs to fully kick in. I remembered giving up after an hour and thirty mins of waiting (didn't think it was gonna work) so I layed down in bed and fell in a trace like state. The lights were off in my room and I glanced over at the bathroom door, which was crack open with the lights on.

I remember seeing halos around the bulbs and the light itself was shimmering with every color in the rainbow. It was at the time, I noticed I had a grin I couldn't wipe off my face and that I was indeed tripping. The next few hours I began having very abstract and creative thoughts. It was def a great beginning to my path to enlightenment.

If I were to experience LSA again, I would certainly try an extraction my next go around.


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Re: Ayamescajuana [Re: SyzygisticSoul]
    #24039452 - 01/25/17 06:16 PM (7 years, 5 days ago)

I feel like I ate way way way too much fiber lol this is the best ive felt actually for zero sleep. Im kinda wondering if the mescaline got stuck to the pot cause I was sure thinking this is real subtle then my phone screen went about 5 inches deep


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Re: Ayamescajuana [Re: SyzygisticSoul]
    #24039671 - 01/25/17 07:52 PM (7 years, 5 days ago)

Sorry to semi-hijack your thread mike..

@Syz, if the vasoconstriction wasn't that bad why not just eat the seeds again?  Did you get stomach cramps or anything else?  The reason LC's extraction tek is making me nervous is because I'm not real slick with the chemistry thing and the methanol makes me nervous with something I plan on ingesting.  It would be cool if you could just do a water wash and down the hatch.  I don't want to get sick or constricted.


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Re: Ayamescajuana [Re: Amanita86]
    #24039777 - 01/25/17 08:40 PM (7 years, 5 days ago)

Well imo eating morning glory seeds can be somewhat uncomfortable.

First there is the issue of finely chewing up a few hundred seeds (which isn't too bad at first but once you get past 200-300 it starts getting a little unpleasant, but certainly not undoable, especially if you have some oj or water to wash it down with after chewing them up real good.)

Once ingested, there is a period of time where the nausea can get a little rough (I've heard cannabis helps but I don't know cause I didn't smoke during the experience.)

Finally there is the vasoconstriction issue; which I've heard varies from person to person. For me personally, it wasn't too bad but could be considered annoying at times. From my experience, it doesn't last once the trip starts.

LSA seems to have a slow and gradual come-up, nothing compared to its close cousin. Don't get wrong though, LSA does offer a beautiful experience and is different from L, it's kind of a pay to play type of thing; but that's the way I think nature intended entheogen to be like.

If you arent comfortable trying his LSA extraction TEK, don't do it. I believe he notes that the extraction isn't for extraction beginners in his signature as well. Honestly you could try just eating the untreated seeds first and see how you feel about it. If you don't like that method, you could always try a cold water extraction afters. LSA is pretty badass overall.


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Re: Ayamescajuana [Re: SyzygisticSoul]
    #24039889 - 01/25/17 09:29 PM (7 years, 4 days ago)

Considering they're so tiny it's probably easier to do it by weight instead of count.  Anyone ever count out 450 seeds and then weigh them?


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Re: Ayamescajuana [Re: Amanita86]
    #24039913 - 01/25/17 09:44 PM (7 years, 4 days ago)

I haven't. I prep mg by blending it and soaking in water inside the fridge for no more than 5 hours but 4 hours preferred. I am gonna take a much needed nap and reflect. Tomorrow I will put up a trip report


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