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BatmanBDC
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Pepcid and anti-nausea
#24034098 - 01/23/17 06:39 PM (7 years, 7 days ago) |
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Does taking a pepcid for anti acid affect a trip?
Does taking an anti-nausea affect a trip?
If I smoke up just a little prior to eating the shrooms on an empty stomach, would that affect the trip very much? The high from the bud would last 2 hours max though.
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Re: Pepcid and anti-nausea [Re: BatmanBDC]
#24037562 - 01/24/17 11:36 PM (7 years, 5 days ago) |
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I've taken tums with no weird effects, idk about my zofran though. I'll let you know
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Re: Pepcid and anti-nausea [Re: stevo]
#24038014 - 01/25/17 08:27 AM (7 years, 5 days ago) |
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I always get worse nausea from the tea! I think I get it from literally coming up on the psychedelic. I get it with lsd too but its more intense more quickly with tea , I always feel like tea hits me the fastest, hardest, and with the most nausea but wears off quickest.
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Re: Pepcid and anti-nausea [Re: Guess]
#24040026 - 01/25/17 10:48 PM (7 years, 4 days ago) |
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Pepsid is an H2 competitive antagonist and also a proton-pump inhibitor. Now, I am no pharmacologist but H2 antagonism is known to cause drowsiness I think. But, so is pot. Pot is just a lot more fun with fungus related psychedelics. So, I'd say just smoke pot, as it would probably help with the nausea and cover the need for Pepsid.
Personally (and why I know the random pharmacology), Pepsid causes intense fractal visual hallucinations. I do not feel trippy, but I notice that I get intense visuals on it. Marijuana can also do this for me at a high dose and if I meditate. I hear this happens much more often with marijuana than with Pepsid though, so if you are seeking dank visuals I'd suggest pot as it'll more likely do ya in Good luck
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BatmanBDC
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Re: Pepcid and anti-nausea [Re: stevo]
#24051697 - 01/30/17 01:00 PM (7 years, 8 hours ago) |
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I was just wondering if either one would inhibit the visual and positive feeling of the experience. I took pepcid and an anti nausea, I ground up the shrooms pretty nice. I have a bad stomach with reflux so I always have to take pepcid or prescription meds. I still noticed cycles of barely noticeable nausea but it wasn't a problem at all. I didn't notice a lot of amazing fractal or geometrics when I closed my eyes, I barely saw those.
I did 2g of B+ and next time I'll do 2.5 or 3 of A+ which are a little stronger. I still want to take the meds just specifically for their intended use. I'll still have some bud around, but I really want to get to the next level (not skipping levels and going balls out, but just up to the next level).
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Re: Pepcid and anti-nausea (moved) [Re: BatmanBDC]
#24134494 - 03/03/17 08:01 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Pepcid and anti-nausea [Re: BatmanBDC]
#24134646 - 03/03/17 09:39 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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BatmanBDC said: I was just wondering if either one would inhibit the visual and positive feeling of the experience. I took pepcid and an anti nausea, I ground up the shrooms pretty nice. I have a bad stomach with reflux so I always have to take pepcid or prescription meds. I still noticed cycles of barely noticeable nausea but it wasn't a problem at all. I didn't notice a lot of amazing fractal or geometrics when I closed my eyes, I barely saw those.
I did 2g of B+ and next time I'll do 2.5 or 3 of A+ which are a little stronger. I still want to take the meds just specifically for their intended use. I'll still have some bud around, but I really want to get to the next level (not skipping levels and going balls out, but just up to the next level).
Pepcid will have no effect on tripping. Pepcid is a H2 antagonist which is completely separate from the mechanism of action of shrooms. I do believe pepcid does penetrate the CNS but CNS effects are typically only seen with IV administration in people with impaired liver and renal function, i.e. the dose required to induce CNS effects is much higher than you are taking.
I don't know what nausea medication you are taking as there are numerous types but there is none that I know of that will interfere with shrooms. Zofran/ondansetron is a 5-HT3 receptor antagonist which is very different than the 5-HT2 receptor that shrooms binds to and I don't believe there is cross-reactivity.
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Both proton pump inhibitors and h2 blockers put a lot of stress on the system so overall the trip will be worse mentally. When used chronically they are also terrible for your health and cause nutritional deficiences as well as damage to the kidneys and heart. Some h2 blockers are also anticholinergics which put you into a mildly dimented state.
Acid reflux is usually caused not by too much stomach acid but by too little and by a dietary insuffiency that causes the mucosa not to heal quickly enough. Your entire stomach regenerates itself every 4 days. Too little acid causes food to ferment and create gas pressure that refluxes into your esophagus. You should be looking to raise your stomach acid and to improve your diet.
Take DGL (deglycernized licorice) before the trip to protect your esophagus. If you have heartburn during your trip then treat it symptomtically. First drink a tall glass of water. If it's still there then take tums, rolaids, or sodium bicarbonate. Keep them on hand in your pocket. Dont take too much. Calcium and sodium can cause anxiety.
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BatmanBDC
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I thought I replied to this already. I'm extremely healthy and eat properly. I took a pepcid and an anti nausea and they didn't effect the trip, except maybe it lessened it? But I was euphoric, really, this was like ecstasy. Hit hard and fast, no stomach problems, mild nausea in waves but nothing agitating and my frame of mind was in total control and just loving euphoric thoughts. I took 3g's so I was hoping for some better visuals, eyes closed I saw amazing fractal imagery being created, but I wasn't seeing any distortions in reality, I mean minor vibrating things and jumps here and there. But it was great.
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