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Do shrooms cause psychosis or brain damage?
    #24033168 - 01/23/17 12:55 PM (7 years, 7 days ago)

I have done shrooms twice and I want to do them again but I don't want to be crazy, get stuck in a trip, or have brain damage, can shrooms do this?


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Re: Do shrooms cause psychosis or brain damage? [Re: Liviilove155]
    #24033186 - 01/23/17 01:03 PM (7 years, 7 days ago)

i have done a lot of shrooms and psychedelics and let me tell you...psychedelics do NOT cause psychosis but MARIJUANA can.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
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All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Do shrooms cause psychosis or brain damage? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #24033195 - 01/23/17 01:06 PM (7 years, 7 days ago)

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i have done a lot of shrooms and psychedelics and let me tell you...psychedelics do NOT cause psychosis but MARIJUANA can.



i disagree :smile: psychedelics and marijuana can cause psychosis. Exactly why i like them :smile:

mushrooms and marijuana however do not cause brain damage.


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Re: Do shrooms cause psychosis or brain damage? [Re: Liviilove155] * 1
    #24033201 - 01/23/17 01:07 PM (7 years, 7 days ago)

You won't get stuck in a full blown trip.  You can have thoughts and beliefs that stick around.  Can also have those without aid.


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Re: Do shrooms cause psychosis or brain damage? [Re: SleepyE]
    #24033203 - 01/23/17 01:08 PM (7 years, 7 days ago)



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Re: Do shrooms cause psychosis or brain damage? [Re: SleepyE]
    #24033223 - 01/23/17 01:16 PM (7 years, 7 days ago)

Psychedelics can't give you brain damage. They definitely can bring on psychosis or latent mental illness in some people, though.
Having said that, I imagine the vast majority of people can (moderately) use psychedelics without any ill effects, just like cannabis.


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Re: Do shrooms cause psychosis or brain damage? [Re: Liviilove155]
    #24033228 - 01/23/17 01:20 PM (7 years, 7 days ago)

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Liviilove155 said:
I have done shrooms twice and I want to do them again but I don't want to be crazy, get stuck in a trip, or have brain damage, can shrooms do this?




In a nutshell, no.  You only get what you bring to the show personally.  If you've got problems, you had them before the shrooms.


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Re: Do shrooms cause psychosis or brain damage? [Re: Matai] * 2
    #24033229 - 01/23/17 01:20 PM (7 years, 7 days ago)

Psychedelics will make you go sane in an insane world...............:mindblown:


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Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
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Re: Do shrooms cause psychosis or brain damage? [Re: Matai]
    #24033236 - 01/23/17 01:23 PM (7 years, 7 days ago)

Here we go again.
NO.
However, if you're predisposed to mental illnesses (genetically or elsehow), you should not use drugs or alcohol (and be careful with any stressful situations as well).

But wait.
There are successes in actually treating mental illnesses with psychedelics, but that's done by professionals in safe and controlled environment. Self-treatment is not likely to lead to something good.


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Re: Do shrooms cause psychosis or brain damage? [Re: SleepyE]
    #24033255 - 01/23/17 01:30 PM (7 years, 7 days ago)

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SleepyE said:
Quote:

Bill_Oreilly said:
i have done a lot of shrooms and psychedelics and let me tell you...psychedelics do NOT cause psychosis but MARIJUANA can.



i disagree :smile: psychedelics and marijuana can cause psychosis. Exactly why i like them :smile:

mushrooms and marijuana however do not cause brain damage.





Well that was just based on my personal experience. I did a bunch of hallucinogens and was mentally fine but when i hit the butane hash oil hard then BOOM i was hitting psych wards like crazy..(see what i did there)


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Do shrooms cause psychosis or brain damage? [Re: SleepyE] * 1
    #24033260 - 01/23/17 01:33 PM (7 years, 7 days ago)

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:whathesaid:

You get used to it.

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Re: Do shrooms cause psychosis or brain damage? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #24033446 - 01/23/17 02:54 PM (7 years, 7 days ago)

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Well that was just based on my personal experience. I did a bunch of hallucinogens and was mentally fine but when i hit the butane hash oil hard then BOOM i was hitting psych wards like crazy..(see what i did there)



my psychosis was triggered by DMT, for months too. i had the "truman show syndrome" and thought random people secretly knew who i was but pretended not too. I thought i was God and everyone was like a projection of my subconscious and not real so it was solipsistic for a long while.

I thought i was seeing into some higher dimensional symmetry by connecting certain events and synchronicities which felt like it was a guide or atlas to me figuring out what my next step in my "journey was"
funny enough i was making incredibly creative connections that i have learned from and use to this day. This experience has made me a pretty awesome interpreter/metaphor designer. i think that the enhanced associative quality and enhanced connectivity is VITAL for creativity hence why i say i like that psychedelic "cause" psychosis. because its a pattern recognition overdrive which can lead to a pattern detection problem(psychosis) if you dont understand what is happening and are not prepared for this altered state of consciousness/awareness.

i thought tv shows/movies/ and songs on the radio were being played just for me to send me messages because i was experience deep chain reactions of synchronicities. Some were far too bizarre to be coincidence but i have for the most part shrugged that off as an anomaly.


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Re: Do shrooms cause psychosis or brain damage? [Re: SleepyE]
    #24033517 - 01/23/17 03:18 PM (7 years, 7 days ago)

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Bill_Oreilly said:
i have done a lot of shrooms and psychedelics and let me tell you...psychedelics do NOT cause psychosis but MARIJUANA can.





This^^

Cannabis actually leaves its users more prone to psychosis than users of mushrooms, LSD or mescaline due to cannabinoids technically having psychotomimetic characteristics whereas things like mushrooms just have psychedelic characteristics.

Mushrooms can actually treat psychosis however I wouldn't recommend that unless you really know what you're doing.

As to you OP......traditional psychedelic drugs like LSD and mushrooms DO NOT cause brain damage in anyway and there is no such thing as a permanent trip or "getting stuck".


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Re: Do shrooms cause psychosis or brain damage? [Re: SleepyE]
    #24034539 - 01/23/17 08:57 PM (7 years, 7 days ago)

Quote:

SleepyE said:
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Bill_Oreilly said:



Well that was just based on my personal experience. I did a bunch of hallucinogens and was mentally fine but when i hit the butane hash oil hard then BOOM i was hitting psych wards like crazy..(see what i did there)



my psychosis was triggered by DMT, for months too. i had the "truman show syndrome" and thought random people secretly knew who i was but pretended not too. I thought i was God and everyone was like a projection of my subconscious and not real so it was solipsistic for a long while.

I thought i was seeing into some higher dimensional symmetry by connecting certain events and synchronicities which felt like it was a guide or atlas to me figuring out what my next step in my "journey was"
funny enough i was making incredibly creative connections that i have learned from and use to this day. This experience has made me a pretty awesome interpreter/metaphor designer. i think that the enhanced associative quality and enhanced connectivity is VITAL for creativity hence why i say i like that psychedelic "cause" psychosis. because its a pattern recognition overdrive which can lead to a pattern detection problem(psychosis) if you dont understand what is happening and are not prepared for this altered state of consciousness/awareness.

i thought tv shows/movies/ and songs on the radio were being played just for me to send me messages because i was experience deep chain reactions of synchronicities. Some were far too bizarre to be coincidence but i have for the most part shrugged that off as an anomaly.





Same exact shit with me man but it happened on 3 different occasions resulting in 3 psych ward stays and 1 time i a had a break so bad the cops had to pull me out of my house naked after running around my house knocking shit over while screaming like a mad man

But yeah..thinking every word spoken is directly FOR YOU and thinking everyone can read your mind..

The last time i swore i understood every single license plate and eaxh one i would read and "decode"

Every song meant so much because i felt like there was extra meaning within each word thus me thinking every song was written for me

I thought i was becoming a celebrity and that hollywood media would show up to come follow me around for the rest of my life because i had "gone through the process of becoming famous"

Oh man words cant describe it..


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


Edited by Bill_Oreilly (01/23/17 09:05 PM)


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Re: Do shrooms cause psychosis or brain damage? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #24034697 - 01/23/17 10:11 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

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The last time i swore i understood every single license plate and eaxh one i would read and "decode"

Every song meant so much because i felt like there was extra meaning within each word thus me thinking every song was written for me

I thought i was becoming a celebrity and that hollywood media would show up to come follow me around for the rest of my life because i had "gone through the process of becoming famous"




this is EXACTLY my experience.
i thought a bunch of celebrities were going to show up at my door and yell "surprise!"
although i have to say i feel like some of my delusions are somewhat sllloooowwly coming true, im definitely not going to be a nobody but im not the alpha omega either. :lol:
i now see the experience as more of a symbolic experience of where my life is heading if i keep pushing myself hard enough.


its weird cuz i had an internal dialogue with a celebrity that has been a HUGE influence on me and it also felt like people i knew were also there conveying information to me with this person.

the things they told me i never knew before so its very strange they fed me new information i didn't know previously.

in my psychosis my body felt different.
it felt as if i constantly had a mushroom bodyload or something. something about my perception and state of being was different. this was going on while sober too. i have to say though while i was still deep into the fantasy coupled with the strange bodyload like perception it felt like a very peculiar and almost freeing and liberating sensation.
i felt like i was dying but not in a way of suffering but a blissful farewell to an interesting ride or journey. I thought the universe was changing form and that everyone needed to evolve into the next stage of existence and i found out that everyone was just me so it felt like some twilight zone where i was the only one actually alive, kind of like the movie 'I am Legend' only i saw everyone as projected robots instead of vampire type things. its like i was playing counter strike and found out i was in a server full of only bots. Thats exactly how it felt tbh.


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Re: Do shrooms cause psychosis or brain damage? [Re: SleepyE]
    #24034892 - 01/24/17 12:18 AM (7 years, 6 days ago)

I'm really glad I only thought 0f that concept when I was younger and never had to experience it through drug psychosis holy shit. But good for you man, glad you got through it.


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Re: Do shrooms cause psychosis or brain damage? [Re: Everything]
    #24036420 - 01/24/17 03:45 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

The actual psychological working model states, that psychosis is caused by a combination of vulnerable genetics (which is estimated approx 1% of the population have) and stress (which can be socially, physically but also substance induced).
It is possible but very improbable, that one or very few trips can blossom into a psychotic episode. However, if you want to minimize the risk, keep the dose low and the pause between trips long. In my opinion 2-3 trips a year are way enough.
I would consider not to let the substance choose the experience. Choose few but intense moments like psytrance festivals (best place to trip EVER :laugh: ) and have one hell of an experience. Start low by all means, so you do not overexert yourself.


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Re: Do shrooms cause psychosis or brain damage? [Re: Everything]
    #24036870 - 01/24/17 06:21 PM (7 years, 6 days ago)

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Everything said:
I'm really glad I only thought 0f that concept when I was younger and never had to experience it through drug psychosis holy shit. But good for you man, glad you got through it.



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Re: Do shrooms cause psychosis or brain damage? [Re: SleepyE] * 1
    #24042298 - 01/26/17 07:55 PM (7 years, 4 days ago)

I used to be normal.
Then I started shrooming and now i'm bananas.
I think normal folks are bonkers.
They think the same of me.


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