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foxglove
    #24032787 - 01/23/17 09:19 AM (7 years, 7 days ago)



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Re: foxglove [Re: thedare]
    #24033401 - 01/23/17 02:29 PM (7 years, 7 days ago)

Thanks for sharing. Please update.


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Re: foxglove [Re: saythatagain]
    #24034492 - 01/23/17 08:34 PM (7 years, 7 days ago)

I don't have any personal experience with it, but read that foxglove improves the growth of other plants, around it.


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Re: foxglove [Re: durian_2008]
    #24035105 - 01/24/17 04:19 AM (7 years, 6 days ago)

Where I am it sprouts up randomly in quite big amounts. It is quite invasive. Will keep you updated.


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Re: foxglove [Re: thedare]
    #24035676 - 01/24/17 10:28 AM (7 years, 6 days ago)

Is it safe to touch?


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Re: foxglove [Re: durian_2008] * 1
    #24040467 - 01/26/17 06:22 AM (7 years, 4 days ago)

Yeah its pretty safe to touch. But the root isn't.


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Re: foxglove [Re: thedare]
    #24040763 - 01/26/17 09:27 AM (7 years, 4 days ago)

I like the idea that it's supposed to invigorate it's plant companions, but am concerned that I could poison kids, animals, or myself -- particularly in a vegetable garden.

Are you saying you can't touch it, or can't eat it?


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Re: foxglove [Re: durian_2008] * 1
    #24040773 - 01/26/17 09:39 AM (7 years, 4 days ago)

Pretty sure. It contains heart toxins called digitoxin. Very nasty stuff if misused.


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Re: foxglove [Re: thedare]
    #24040839 - 01/26/17 10:09 AM (7 years, 4 days ago)

My grandma used to plant monkshood in her carrot and lettuce boxes because rabbits and deer will avoid it at all costs. Goats may try and eat it though. Maybe foxglove is similar in this way and thats why people plant it in their veggies?


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Re: foxglove [Re: czech]
    #24040907 - 01/26/17 10:39 AM (7 years, 4 days ago)

In the idea called "companion planting," some flowers and vegetables are supposed to change soil chemistry, so become extra-productive, as a sort-of team effort.

Some do have poisonous chemicals, but have to be concentrated, in order to accomplish medical effects. Some plants would have to be eaten, and some can be absorbed, through the skin.

I know that foxglove is poisonous, but not how poisonous.


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Re: foxglove [Re: durian_2008]
    #24041317 - 01/26/17 01:36 PM (7 years, 4 days ago)

Never knew about this plant, looks beautiful. Keep it going :smile:


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Re: foxglove [Re: Mrvince]
    #24048483 - 01/29/17 09:57 AM (7 years, 1 day ago)

Seems to have lots of mythology.


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Re: foxglove [Re: durian_2008]
    #24060559 - 02/02/17 04:02 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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I like the idea that it's supposed to invigorate it's plant companions, but am concerned that I could poison kids, animals, or myself -- particularly in a vegetable garden.

Are you saying you can't touch it, or can't eat it?





Fox gloves contain digitoxin and a few other related glycoside poisons.
All of the toxins contained within attack or rather alter cardiac function.

I say alter beacause in small quantities it is used as a heart beat regulator and intfact is used to treat many other poisons for example aconite(monkshood) which slows down heart beat and lowers blood pressure while Foxglove speeds up heart beat and raises blood pressure.

It isn't really all that dangerous to have in the garden though even with small children.
While touching the plant for a VERY small number of people will cause a rash that is similar to poison ivy it would need to be eaten rather quickly and in a large amount to cause much harm.

It would take about as much leafy matter as could cover your palm to reach a potentially lethal amount.

That might not sound like much but if you were to nibble a peice of the leaf (not recommended but have done so without harm)
You would notice it has a foul acid bitter taste to it.
On top of that the sap is emetic so the probability of ingesting a enough without vomiting is low(this is why old fashioned poisoners used dried foxglove).

What you would really need to worry about is the roots particularly when the plant is in flower.


In saying all that I've grown for many years.
The animals won't touch it and I've never had problems with children and neither have the thousands of other people growing it.
Most hear about its toxicity and freak out but its really no big deal as long as you don't go mistaking it for something edible and use a little common sense.

Also remember if your children are too young to understand about poisonous plants then just do what our ancestors did.

They took advantage of the wonderful imagination of young children and told myths and folktales intended to scare the children away from the plant.
By the time they were old enough to know better than believe in folktales they were normally mature enough to understand why they shouldn't touch the plants.
Many of those folktales are still around today.

In short grow this beautiful plant:sun:


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Re: foxglove [Re: Dark lotus]
    #24061434 - 02/02/17 10:07 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks very much, this is full of useful info.

Maybe, we can arrange a barter, when it goes to seed.


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