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wolfiewolfie
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DMT - Remembering THAT thing...
#24032778 - 01/23/17 09:13 AM (7 years, 7 days ago) |
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I'm mainly writing this down so that I don't completley forget that I remember remembering. Bare with me, this will probably just sound confusing...
I just smoked DMT for the first time in a few months. As soon as it hit me I remembered. I remembered that the same thing happenes every trip. I remembered that I remembered this thing every trip. I remembered not wanting to remember. I remembered every time telling myself 'never again'. I remembered that I would, thankfully, forget again and I remembered why it has to be forgotton. Now i'm back, I do not remember what 'it' is.
Then the rest of the trip played out and it was just as beautiful and amazing as it always is.
As I was coming back into my body it felt like the memory of whatever it was I remembered was too big to fit into a human brain so it, along with the majority of the experience, had to be left 'there' and couldn't come back with me.
Now that I'm back I remember remembering, I just don't know what it is that I remembered. At the time it was so mind shattering that I was pleading with myself to never do it again, never remember THAT. But right now I would do it again no worries, if it wasn't for me remembering that I didn't want to remember 'something'.
I guess I won't know until I do it again.
Can anybody else relate to this?
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: wolfiewolfie]
#24032811 - 01/23/17 09:32 AM (7 years, 7 days ago) |
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The mind comes right back in and covers it right back up.  The mind is also made of 'it' but even your thumb can block the light of the sun. The mind is just like this, when consciousness identifies as a person again, you are back into personhood. And no person can know this truth.
The thing you keep remembering and forgetting, is who you are. It is forgotten because who you are is not an object or a perception or an experience, and the mind only deals in these things. How to recognize something non-phenomenal?
I know it sounds so philosophical and spiritual. If you can manage to see through the mind without drugs, it will become more clear to you. You are this, right now.
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: Tmethyl]
#24032827 - 01/23/17 09:39 AM (7 years, 7 days ago) |
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Tmethyl said: The mind comes right back in and covers it right back up.  The mind is also made of 'it' but even your thumb can block the light of the sun. The mind is just like this, when consciousness identifies as a person again, you are back into personhood. And no person can know this truth.
The thing you keep remembering and forgetting, is who you are. It is forgotten because who you are is not an object or a perception or an experience, and the mind only deals in these things. How to recognize something non-phenomenal?
I know it sounds so philosophical and spiritual. If you can manage to see through the mind without drugs, it will become more clear to you. You are this, right now.
I can understand the layer beneath your words, however a part of me doesn't want to understand... It just wants to be kept distracted.
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Edited by wolfiewolfie (01/23/17 09:46 AM)
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: wolfiewolfie] 1
#24032849 - 01/23/17 09:46 AM (7 years, 7 days ago) |
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That is the struggle. The ego never wants to die.  But the ego is merely a modulation occurring inside consciousness, you were never actually it.
The ego is the character in the movie, but the movie is happening on the TV screen. You are the screen, not the character.
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: Tmethyl] 1
#24032872 - 01/23/17 09:56 AM (7 years, 7 days ago) |
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I understand that 'I' am not walking around with consciousness in my head, that 'I' am in fact consciousness itself and there are people walking around within me, one of which I am currently viewing myself from. 'I' am the container and everything exists within me.
It's not the understanding I have trouble with, its the accepting part... I want to accept it, embrace it, but I can never quite get to truly 'believing' it.
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Edited by wolfiewolfie (01/23/17 10:03 AM)
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: wolfiewolfie]
#24032981 - 01/23/17 10:58 AM (7 years, 7 days ago) |
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You just made me anxious again, back to video games and doing nothing with friends 
Nah, I'm kidding, we have to push through this. I feel you OP, I have not taken DMT (yet) but I get this same impressions on weed... Is hard, isn't it? I always try to STAND quietly and accept it, but it gets too much to handle and I distract myself from it. "Forget about meditation, forget about mushrooms, forget about weed" I tell myself again and again, but I know I couldn't go back to a fully secular life and live happily. Once you peek behind the curtains...there's no way out but forward.
Then again, maybe you are talking about something entirely different
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: Warrior_Monk] 2
#24033044 - 01/23/17 11:29 AM (7 years, 7 days ago) |
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Warrior_Monk said: You just made me anxious again, back to video games and doing nothing with friends
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Warrior_Monk said: I always try to STAND quietly and accept it, but it gets too much to handle and I distract myself from it.
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Warrior_Monk said: Once you peek behind the curtains
What you say there sounds a lot like what I'm talking about, although I may be making connections where there aren't any.
I saw behind the curtains over a year ago (thanks LSD) and denied it at first. It was so empty and lonely. Then I accepted it, realizing that an empty glass just means that it can be filled with anything I want.
Looking back I don't think I really accepted it, more like ignored it and distracted myself in order to forget. But something always reminds me of it, kinda like seeing a note on the fridge reminding you to do that chore you keep putting off hoping it will go away.
I'm aware of the power beliefs have, both good and bad, so I don't really believe in anything that I can't verify for myself. I guess I can't bring myself to believe in 'that' out of fear of it just being a delusion, but now I kinda feel like im stuck in limbo, stagnant...
Maybe I just need a new hobbie... another distraction
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Edited by wolfiewolfie (01/23/17 11:34 AM)
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: Tmethyl]
#24034608 - 01/23/17 09:30 PM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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Tmethyl said: That is the struggle. The ego never wants to die.  But the ego is merely a modulation occurring inside consciousness, you were never actually it.
The ego is the character in the movie, but the movie is happening on the TV screen. You are the screen, not the character.
Awesome words, my friend. I have "memories" that I cannot remember that I want to bring back. There is a terrifying place in the journey to the other realm, but for me, first the rocket launch from one reality to another, then once arriving there, like a two sided coin; has on one side an aggressive male deity-like presence, on the other is a gentle, loving, female deity-presence. There is a tornado of information that carries all of the knowledge and wisdom of the universe, and only while outside of my organic brain can I conceive and understand it all....once my physical brain becomes the vessel of my consciousness, it cannot process it all, and it's lost.
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: soultripper] 1
#24034621 - 01/23/17 09:35 PM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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The smell and taste of dmt gives me the chills. Its like i am remembering it all over again..
I remember having this dream where i sat down and smoked like 8 hits of dmt and just kept going and going
For a long time i didnt know if it was a dream or not. Ever since then i realized one can blast off in their dreams despite thinking it was bullshit before.
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: soultripper]
#24034641 - 01/23/17 09:42 PM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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The thing we all hide from is the thing we are all seeking. Isn't that fucking hilarious? 
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: Tmethyl]
#24034648 - 01/23/17 09:44 PM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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As soon as I enter I remember as if it's been waiting for me. What or where that is I couldn't tell you now. Completely get you.
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: pineninja]
#24034699 - 01/23/17 10:13 PM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: pineninja]
#24034704 - 01/23/17 10:18 PM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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pineninja said: As soon as I enter I remember as if it's been waiting for me.
Yes! But its like im not supposed to remember it yet and think 'oh fuck what have i done!? I need to forget this now!'
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Edited by wolfiewolfie (01/23/17 10:19 PM)
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: wolfiewolfie]
#24034883 - 01/24/17 12:03 AM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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anyone ever do dmt while on mdma?
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wolfiewolfie
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tyrannicalrex said: anyone ever do dmt while on mdma?
Ive done it while coming down from mdma. 0 fear, it was amazing.
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: wolfiewolfie]
#24035203 - 01/24/17 05:53 AM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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I've had a similar thing getting really far out on LSD. This trip was so out there that half of it I've forgotten or can't even put into words but I'll try;
It was like finding 'the ultimate secret', but I wasn't supposed to know, and the vibe I got was, "All this stuff (life), it's here for YOU, embrace it all, live life fully, and stop seeking *this* (weird secret knowledge thingy that I can't put into words or even remember).
But yeah, at the time I was like... why do I do this to myself, haha.
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: Trypto-Fan]
#24035283 - 01/24/17 07:10 AM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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It's because you are experiencing the beginning of time, that's where you go when you die, it's not supposed to be experienced until true Death but since we are timeless energies embodied by the physical manifestation of time we are able to simulate a death experience with overload of DMT.
Once you get comfortable with dying, is when you get comfortable with living. Practice surrendering in daily life and you will inhabit a more pure state of consciousness, never truly living or nonliving but a dream of such
The secret is, it's never comfortable to die. Only Love can guide and teach us, dying is just a remembering process, it's always a lot to take in - for to remember the entirety of your existence would not have the conscious capacity to portray it, as you can only be it in the moment of time itself, an infinite complex structure itself
Instead we constantly die and are reborn, for eternity. Only in the glimpses between the seams of what makes us "real" are we able to perceive outside the spectrum of "existence" outside of Ego
Just to realize it's a part of us as much we are a part of it.
The pursuit of happiness, going towards the light is our inevitable cyclic existence. We love to forget as much as we love remembering, we do it every day.
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Edited by Eclipse3130 (01/24/17 07:36 AM)
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: Eclipse3130]
#24035341 - 01/24/17 07:55 AM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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Eclipse3130 said: It's because you are experiencing the beginning of time, that's where you go when you die, it's not supposed to be experienced until true Death but since
Interesting you say that, because on the same trip I just referenced, I also experienced a moment of witnessing 'the creation of the universe', and, it was ME who was creating it...
Damn I feel I need to go back... But it's scary 0_o
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: Trypto-Fan]
#24035347 - 01/24/17 07:58 AM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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Eclipse3130 said: It's because you are experiencing the beginning of time, that's where you go when you die, it's not supposed to be experienced until true Death but since
Interesting you say that, because on the same trip I just referenced, I also experienced a moment of witnessing 'the creation of the universe', and, it was ME who was creating it...
Damn I feel I need to go back... But it's scary 0_o
just dont get carried away with that revelation and think you are literally jesus like i did or do so if that sounds interesting hehe
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: SleepyE]
#24035361 - 01/24/17 08:06 AM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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SleepyE said:
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Trypto-Fan said:
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Eclipse3130 said: It's because you are experiencing the beginning of time, that's where you go when you die, it's not supposed to be experienced until true Death but since
Interesting you say that, because on the same trip I just referenced, I also experienced a moment of witnessing 'the creation of the universe', and, it was ME who was creating it...
Damn I feel I need to go back... But it's scary 0_o
just dont get carried away with that revelation and think you are literally jesus like i did or do so if that sounds interesting hehe
i thought i was Jesus as well
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#24035373 - 01/24/17 08:15 AM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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its pretty common. the mind will associate whatever historic figure you are most familiar with to fill the archetype. for buddhists they would say they are the reincarnation of the buddha. im not even a christian but for some reason i identified with that symbol
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: SleepyE]
#24035381 - 01/24/17 08:24 AM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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SleepyE said: its pretty common. the mind will associate whatever historic figure you are most familiar with to fill the archetype. for buddhists they would say they are the reincarnation of the buddha. im not even a christian but for some reason i identified with that symbol
Yeah totally makes sense
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#24035408 - 01/24/17 08:42 AM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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I thought I was in heaven rather than being Jesus, but I've also experienced hell. It's a mindstate
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: Eclipse3130]
#24035421 - 01/24/17 08:52 AM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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Dude i can relate to this so much. Mostly from my shroom experiences.
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#24035455 - 01/24/17 09:09 AM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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And here we are years later, accepting that we really are Jesus, reborn!
Let the grand spiritual revolution take way
A billion prophets
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: Eclipse3130]
#24035464 - 01/24/17 09:14 AM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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i dont have enough fingers on my hands to count how many people i have come across with similar delusions.
definitely shows a pattern in some respects
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: wolfiewolfie]
#24035599 - 01/24/17 10:02 AM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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OP, this sort of thing, where you can't grasp in ordinary reality what you can grasp while tripping, is pretty much a feature, not a bug. It takes a lot of work to be able to hang onto that stuff properly. People can go "well this is ego dissolution" and like but it's all far beyond those sort of limitations of self. It's because (I think) that your brain is operating in such a different (yet plausible and real) fashion while tripping that it's incongruent with ordinary thinking. Fortunately ordinary thinking is only an option, not a requirement.
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: PrimalSoup]
#24035861 - 01/24/17 11:57 AM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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It's not a delusion, it's just putting a word or characterization to the feeling. Nirvana, eternal bliss is another few.
It's why people run down the street naked, they realized the secrets to life.

Now I didn't do that, instead awestruck staring into the Sky for 4 hours realizing the nature of reality.
"Jesus" was only special because he was consciously "enlightended" and was a profound minority for that time period.
We're not a minority anymore
We are all becoming Jesus Esque
Prophets reborn
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: Eclipse3130]
#24035978 - 01/24/17 12:55 PM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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they call it christ consciousness apparently
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: wolfiewolfie]
#24036515 - 01/24/17 04:22 PM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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Sorry to give a possible explanation thats a bit more boring than everyone elses :P
So a few years ago when I was still a kid drinking in a field we did a looot of NO2.
And every single time I took it I experienced exactly the same thing you describe.
As soon as I came down I felt like I forgot "that thing", and for me it felt like it was something infinitely profound.
Im assuming its just a weird trick of the brain that doesnt need some spiritual explanation. Similar to de ja vu and times where you felt like you have dreamt that dream many times before, even though you know you havent.
As NO2 isnt such a "mystical" substance I put it down to a brain trick, however if it was DMT i know I would have believed that it was something more.
Even though im certain it wasnt something more than that, I still find it hard to ignore how real it felt.
Im not saying im definitely right or to ignore any of these other theories. But its easy to think things are more than they are when dealing with these substances.
Anyways, I hope im wrong and its something really awesome and you find it <3
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: Ech0]
#24036624 - 01/24/17 05:00 PM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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I felt like this on a very dissociative experience, where I was shown a possible solution to how this world and our consciousness works. It was something I never expected and I was totaly amazed and equally terrified. I can´t remember it, also. All that is left is a slight trail in my mind, like a small but distinct hint and the memory of that feeling I had.
It was NO2 (combined with Ketamin), also.^^
Btw: I would disagree on the point, that NO2 is not that mystical. Dissociatives offer a huge world of experiences and in my opinion they don´t need to hide. Some of my deepest psychedelical experiences (apart from DMT breakthrough) were on NO2.
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: DerPda]
#24036642 - 01/24/17 05:08 PM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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No2 reminded me of dmt. Visuals at the beginning somewhat similar but no2 doesnt give obe
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: SleepyE]
#24036684 - 01/24/17 05:25 PM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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Hm, I would tend to disagree. I had one experience on NO2, where I was killed in many different ways but did not remember it. I ended up on a party side of eternal pleasure. I could not communicate with my old friends or anyone I knew, but I met a guy, who looked like my best friend. He told me, that I would never be able to meet anyone of the ones I know again. I said to him: But hey, you are my best friend. He told me: No, I am everyone. You died. Now you can be everyone, too. Become whoever you want, do whatever you can imagine. I had to choose whether to accept those endless possibilities and be fortunate or become depressed or insane. I chose to be fortunate and as soon as I had made my choice, my ego vanished and I lived the life of a thousand people in one second. I was everyone and noone in eternity.
No need to say, that I burned my stash of NO2 this day. And I had to die each time before I was allowed to return to this place. It was amazing. And I think, this could be considered an out of body experience. Or would this be considered as ego death? I have to add, that it was NO2 combined with weed.
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Ech0 said: As NO2 isnt such a "mystical" substance I put it down to a brain trick, however if it was DMT i know I would have believed that it was something more.
A "brain trick" yet scientifically, the brain is like our deepest oceans: there's so much we don't know.
I'm very interested in science and always look for a plausible explanation for the unexplained, yet the deeper we go in many fields of science, the freakier reality gets, and the more alien our world becomes to what we thought we knew.
I'm reading a book that came out years ago called "Holographic Universe" that aims to explain many phenomena and holes in modern science by suggestion the theory of the universe being a hologram and our consciousness holographic by nature. The theory could help explain memories, dreams, collective consciousness, paranormal, etc. Pretty trippy stuff.
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: 277volt808]
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Lol you guys are inhailing nitrogen dioxide?
just busting your balls. Nitrous oxide is N2O though.
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: wolfiewolfie]
#24037085 - 01/24/17 07:40 PM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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I remembered that the same thing happenes every trip. I remembered that I remembered this thing every trip. I remembered not wanting to remember. I remembered every time telling myself 'never again'. I remembered that I would, thankfully, forget again and I remembered why it has to be forgotton. Now i'm back, I do not remember what 'it' is.
This feeling reminds me of certain shrooms trips I've had. There's almost a kind of state dependent memory in operation where the feeling of tripping brings back hidden memories from previous trips.
There is an ominous recollection that I am entering places within my trip where "they" are, mixed up with a sense of dread that I am looking at an alien reality or realm of the dead and will have to "die" in some sense to get through the trip. This is where the "never again" feeling comes in, but I try to remind myself that what seems hostile is actually what I am seeking.
Later in the trip I feel like I have been dead for a long time and I am actually more like one of the godlike entities feared at the start of the trip, involved in some kind of re-creation of past civilizations, as though my current incarnation is part of a game...
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: wolfiewolfie]
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OP: I know exactly what you mean. I more or less have this same experience every time I dose a decent amount of shrooms. Letting go of your life and accepting who you (really) are is the key.
For me, the "it" is remembering that I really am God and my life is just something I made up. And if I'm God, so are you - deep down we are all the SAME person. On shrooms it all seems so obvious, right?
We are as Gods and we might as well get good at it.
One way of thinking of it, that's helped me is E=MC2.
Everyone knows this famous equation but not everyone knows what it means. If you're unaware, E=MC2 means Energy is equal to mass times the speed of light squared.
Which, is just a fancy way of saying matter and energy are the same thing. Two sides of the same coin.
And that's what humanity/God are. Two sides of the SAME coin.
We can only experience one "side" of our self at a time. In order to be the "God you" the "ego you" must be temporarily put aside and visa versa.
God is your subconscious mind.
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wolfiewolfie said: I'm mainly writing this down so that I don't completley forget that I remember remembering. Bare with me, this will probably just sound confusing...
I just smoked DMT for the first time in a few months. As soon as it hit me I remembered. I remembered that the same thing happenes every trip. I remembered that I remembered this thing every trip. I remembered not wanting to remember. I remembered every time telling myself 'never again'. I remembered that I would, thankfully, forget again and I remembered why it has to be forgotton. Now i'm back, I do not remember what 'it' is.
Then the rest of the trip played out and it was just as beautiful and amazing as it always is.
As I was coming back into my body it felt like the memory of whatever it was I remembered was too big to fit into a human brain so it, along with the majority of the experience, had to be left 'there' and couldn't come back with me.
Now that I'm back I remember remembering, I just don't know what it is that I remembered. At the time it was so mind shattering that I was pleading with myself to never do it again, never remember THAT. But right now I would do it again no worries, if it wasn't for me remembering that I didn't want to remember 'something'.
I guess I won't know until I do it again.
Can anybody else relate to this?
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God is not some being out there in the sky or some cosmic puppeteer, God is here right now in every ordinary experience. Like the canvas of a painting the entire universe is painted on top of consciousness.
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: DerPda]
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yeah i agree they can be deep and introspective and psychedelic, and they are also more than just getting high when used properly.
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: Trypto-Fan]
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So I'm not the only one? This was very terrifying for me, looking behind the curtain so to say.
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: Tiamo] 1
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It's terrifying sometimes, until you learn to Love fully. Behind the curtains I've experienced heaven as well as hell, it's just a mindstate.
Heaven and hell is within all of us always. Light to the Darkness, Love to the Fear.. You realize hell only happens because you're missing out on loving and accepting your Fear as a part of you, rather than something you fight or battle with.
In our darkest, ugly vulnerable moments we find our truest beauty, even if that's as simple as learning to accept and love, even though we may dislike it.
Death is easy, growing and living is hard, cycles and pain is natural.
Throughout your life you will constantly emerge and go through cycles, you will fall into states of nirvanic bliss, heavenly transformations - as well as plunging to the depths of your mind and fighting your demons both new and old - the fun and exciting part is you never know what's coming
But somehow we sum up the courage to go again. And so we will.
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: Eclipse3130]
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Thanks for the replies everyone, you guys always know how to provide comfort 
The main reason I try not to believe in anything is because as soon as you do, you automatically disbelieve its opposite which only places limitations and restrictions on your experience here.
Generally though, 'that' thing has had a profound positive effect on my life, whether I truly believe it or not. The thought of it provides a certain playful confidence, a kind of knowing that everything will be alright and it eases the burden of everyday stresses, like floating down a relaxing stream of bliss.
However in this duality based reality I sometimes get caught up in the other side of the coin, focusing on the negative aspects of 'that' such as the lonliness and lack of defined purpose or meaning that it entails.
I try to view these negative moments as a necessity in order to be able to fully appreciate the positive moments. Light cannot exist without darkness, and so positive/good cannot exist without negative/bad.
One thing It has opened my eyes to is the illusion of fear. Science has shown us that you cant actually create cold, it is only the label we give to define the absence of heat and so, using that same logic, fear does not actually exist, it is only the label we give to define the absence of love. Fear is nothing, there is nothing to it.
"There is nothing to fear."
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"Science has shown us that you cant actually create cold, it is just the absence of heat and so fear does not actually exist, it is only the label we give to the absence of love."
That's pretty dope.. I like that.
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: Amanita86]
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Amanita86 said: "Science has shown us that you cant actually create cold, it is just the absence of heat and so fear does not actually exist, it is only the label we give to the absence of love."
That's pretty dope.. I like that.
I find if you really look you will see this is everything. Sadness is only the absence of happiness, chaos is only the absense of order, confusion is only the absence of understanding, greed is only the absence of contentment and the list goes on.
For something to exist, it has to be contrasted against its non existence. The problem is that we label the non existing counter part as though it does exist, creating many misleading illusions that we base out lives around.
This ideology, whether it is 'true' or not, has helped me to see every 'bad' thing or situation in a whole new perspective. I have learnt to appreciate the negative for what it really is, a means for its positive counter part to exist. This has brought me great peace and I now embrace suffering as an old friend.
In regards to the DMT trips themselves, I look forward to the 'bad' trips just as much as the 'good' ones. It gives me a chance to test myself, and the rewards are so much more fulfilling.
Try this out the next time you blast off. If at any point you feel scared, try and imagine the fear only an emptiness waiting to be filled. Focus on projecting pure love into the emptiness, like shining a torch into a dark room and you will find that the fear quickly disappears. If, or more accuratly when, you find yourself in the presence of an 'evil' or 'bad' entity do not run or hide, instead give it a huge interdimensional hug. Give it a kiss on the cheek, a warm smile. You will be surprised how quickly the coin flips sides. The key is learning to dance with the devil and realizing that 'evil' has no power over you.
A small flame from single candle can light up an entire room easily overcoming any amount of darkness, yet all the darkness in the world can not have any effect whatsoever on that tiny flame. Darkness has no power, only the illusion of power sustained and perpetuated by your belief in it.
The question is, is death only the absence of life, or is life only the absence of death? Which one is 'real' and which one is only the absence of the other? 
I'll leave it at that, I think im getting a bit too deep here haha.
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: wolfiewolfie]
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I've heard it can be like a dream, which are generally hard to remember, making there be some type of connection there. The shape of the molecule might not matter so much as the purposes are gotten across anyway. There is that familiar feeling which is how you know you'll break through or at least blast off. That's what you want. On lower doses there isn't so much a feeling if that, so you could be smoking it wrong until you get that. But like waking from a dream it also quickly fades so you have almost no recollection of it, and it's hard to remember. I think what comes with that is also that realization, if you blast off, it seems like you're exposed to some truth, and it can be sad. It would be like being plugged into the matrix and you know all your loved ones are also subject to that vibe and truth. You just want the best for them. It could be a relaxing feeling. So it's all like death or reexperiencing your birth and not something useful for this realm, necessarily. It's like being in heaven but currently know you should be on earth and so can't stay until some stage. And then everything is one and it could wreak your emotions. So coming back down can be an especially powerful experience as you realize you're here to suffer, that being all that can really happen here on Earth. But it's like a video game so there's some appeal even though it might be a lot to take on and liable to abuse. What's good though is that familiar feeling as it seems you're picking up where you let off. It's naturally hard to remember because it's metabolized fast by the body hence ayahuasca. If melatonin is a similar tryptamine and regulates circadian rhythm then that could suggest something about its timing. Dreams are hard to remember so I wonder if it's because the breakdown of a similar molecule. The experiences aren't necessarily related but share a similar function.
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: Blabble40]
#24040289 - 01/26/17 02:03 AM (7 years, 4 days ago) |
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Blabble40 said: I've heard it can be like a dream, which are generally hard to remember, making there be some type of connection there. The shape of the molecule might not matter so much as the purposes are gotten across anyway. There is that familiar feeling which is how you know you'll break through or at least blast off. That's what you want. On lower doses there isn't so much a feeling if that, so you could be smoking it wrong until you get that. But like waking from a dream it also quickly fades so you have almost no recollection of it, and it's hard to remember. I think what comes with that is also that realization, if you blast off, it seems like you're exposed to some truth, and it can be sad. It would be like being plugged into the matrix and you know all your loved ones are also subject to that vibe and truth. You just want the best for them. It could be a relaxing feeling. So it's all like death or reexperiencing your birth and not something useful for this realm, necessarily. It's like being in heaven but currently know you should be on earth and so can't stay until some stage. And then everything is one and it could wreak your emotions. So coming back down can be an especially powerful experience as you realize you're here to suffer, that being all that can really happen here on Earth. But it's like a video game so there's some appeal even though it might be a lot to take on and liable to abuse. What's good though is that familiar feeling as it seems you're picking up where you let off. It's naturally hard to remember because it's metabolized fast by the body hence ayahuasca. If melatonin is a similar tryptamine and regulates circadian rhythm then that could suggest something about its timing. Dreams are hard to remember so I wonder if it's because the breakdown of a similar molecule. The experiences aren't necessarily related but share a similar function.
In my opinion, the brain likes to label things, creating an objective reference point so it can organise, analyze and understand. If it is unable to label something, it is discarded and deemed 'un useful'.
I think this is the case in regards to the psychedelic experience. The small parts that are remembered are only what the brain can put a label on, whether accurate or not. The rest of the 'data' can not be 'filed' for analysis and therefore it is forgotton.
It seems to me that the brain can only 'read' external, objective information. Just like a computer program can not 'read' its own code that it's running on, we can not understand that which is the self. In order to compensate for this, the mind creates a fake, objective reference point for the 'self' in order to analyze and understand. The label we give this is 'ego'.
One thing that my psychedelic experiences have given me is a new and powerful awareness towards communication and the limitations of language. Nowadays I find myself consciously and carefully choosing my words, as well as using more metaphors in my communication in order to minimise potential misinterpretation on the other end and to maximize the accuracy of understanding.
When I get really high, like I am now (he he), I often wonder if this is what wizards were, those who consciously and systematically structure their strings of words, using language as a weapon to cast 'spells' in order to create a desired effect.
Is there a connection in that the word 'words' can be rearranged to 'sword'?
Also if you think about it, 'word' itself is curious.
The word 'word' is the word used to describe words. It is both a container that groups all words, and at the same time an object within that container.
It exists objectivly within itself.
Now replace 'word' with 'I', 'me' or 'self' and see how deep this thought train can go :p
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: wolfiewolfie]
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Blabble40 said: I've heard it can be like a dream, which are generally hard to remember, making there be some type of connection there. The shape of the molecule might not matter so much as the purposes are gotten across anyway. There is that familiar feeling which is how you know you'll break through or at least blast off. That's what you want. On lower doses there isn't so much a feeling if that, so you could be smoking it wrong until you get that. But like waking from a dream it also quickly fades so you have almost no recollection of it, and it's hard to remember. I think what comes with that is also that realization, if you blast off, it seems like you're exposed to some truth, and it can be sad. It would be like being plugged into the matrix and you know all your loved ones are also subject to that vibe and truth. You just want the best for them. It could be a relaxing feeling. So it's all like death or reexperiencing your birth and not something useful for this realm, necessarily. It's like being in heaven but currently know you should be on earth and so can't stay until some stage. And then everything is one and it could wreak your emotions. So coming back down can be an especially powerful experience as you realize you're here to suffer, that being all that can really happen here on Earth. But it's like a video game so there's some appeal even though it might be a lot to take on and liable to abuse. What's good though is that familiar feeling as it seems you're picking up where you let off. It's naturally hard to remember because it's metabolized fast by the body hence ayahuasca. If melatonin is a similar tryptamine and regulates circadian rhythm then that could suggest something about its timing. Dreams are hard to remember so I wonder if it's because the breakdown of a similar molecule. The experiences aren't necessarily related but share a similar function.
In my opinion, the brain likes to label things, creating an objective reference point so it can organise, analyze and understand. If it is unable to label something, it is discarded and deemed 'un useful'.
I think this is the case in regards to the psychedelic experience. The small parts that are remembered are only what the brain can put a label on, whether accurate or not. The rest of the 'data' can not be 'filed' for analysis and therefore it is forgotton.
It seems to me that the brain can only 'read' external, objective information. Just like a computer program can not 'read' its own code that it's running on, we can not understand that which is the self. In order to compensate for this, the mind creates a fake, objective reference point for the 'self' in order to analyze and understand. The label we give this is 'ego'.
One thing that my psychedelic experiences have given me is a new and powerful awareness towards communication and the limitations of language. Nowadays I find myself consciously and carefully choosing my words, as well as using more metaphors in my communication in order to minimise potential misinterpretation on the other end and to maximize the accuracy of understanding.
When I get really high, like I am now (he he), I often wonder if this is what wizards were, those who consciously and systematically structure their strings of words, using language as a weapon to cast 'spells' in order to create a desired effect.
Is there a connection in that the word 'words' can be rearranged to 'sword'?
Also if you think about it, 'word' itself is curious.
The word 'word' is the word used to describe words. It is both a container that groups all words, and at the same time an object within that container.
It exists objectivly within itself.
Now replace 'word' with 'I', 'me' or 'self' and see how deep this thought train can go :p
It's a little more like what the brain is allowed to process, especially for survival. It's like the amount of the EM spectrum the eyes are able to receive, since they generally can't see into the ultraviolet or infrared. You can argue it isn't essentially useful for the animals. But the case can also be made that constant access to these realms or visions of hallucination allow the survival of the organism. Since you can't really move while you have blasted off though, this suggests the state is only for a certain purpose. Even the external stimuli can actually be internal or a largely pieced together hallucination. Objects are mainly made of electrons and that's what dictates what state they are in. We just see them as such when, while chances are slim, what we see could not actually be there. Ego is just what the self wants to do and what it thinks it should, instead of what is right. It's the more selfish part of the persona. Language is indeed an interesting phenomena, how it is just sounds made by the mouth that is interpreted by audiences, who recognize the respective sounds. And there are different languages. Especially with Harry Potter nowadays it could seem to lead credence to that wizard theory, as they say spells before they perform. Same thing with shooting fire balls in videogames or anime. It's just that saying them gives it more believeability. There was a funny story about a wizard who stole a little boy's car. He wouldn't stop talking and that's partially how he ended up bribing him. They eventually got the car back after tricking the wizard, giving it to him was part of the plan all along, because he originally stole their cat, initially. Elves and other creatures are able to do some magic, not just wizards, so that's how they were able to get out of that situation. The "word, words" example is a decent one, I think in English because it sounds like wizard or wizards there could be a connection with that too, like wizards are those who arbitrate words or something. Almost like "words-er" or something similar. I suppose it is kind of a matrix. I know there are other interesting examples. I'm a few years away from being bilingual but I can see in the Asian languages there is some wordplay in writing too. With kanji some are written similar, like medicine/drugs and fun or music. They are the same except medicine has a radical for grass above it while fun doesn't, so it's a little like the same stimulus except from a more naturalistic, grass based source. They say you should try and let go of me or I because it sounds selfish.
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: Blabble40]
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It's a little more like what the brain is allowed to process
I'm glad somebody brought that up. There are certain sorts of thought processes that the brain actually can't handle, I've run into those on occasion - the equivalent of the "blue screen of death" followed by a reboot. It could well be this is what people think of as "ego death" basically a failure to process. But there's no such thing as "allowed to process" only whether it fails or not. Nobody designed any of this shit, and when we use it in unusual ways sometimes it fails utterly.
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: PrimalSoup]
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PrimalSoup said: the equivalent of the "blue screen of death" followed by a reboot.
I know exactly what you mean, that describes it perfectly!
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: wolfiewolfie]
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And you can be just on the verge of realizing that impossibility that seems so familiar when it happens.
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: PrimalSoup]
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PrimalSoup said: And you can be just on the verge of realizing that impossibility that seems so familiar when it happens. 
that breakout(forget the names of those smiley things) is priceless. have you seen the youtube video?
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Uhm, >breakout< and no, but I've heard about it. I kinda hate to use it but it's so appropriate...
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: wolfiewolfie] 1
#24042878 - 01/27/17 01:44 AM (7 years, 3 days ago) |
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wolfiewolfie said: I understand that 'I' am not walking around with consciousness in my head, that 'I' am in fact consciousness itself and there are people walking around within me, one of which I am currently viewing myself from. 'I' am the container and everything exists within me.
It's not the understanding I have trouble with, its the accepting part... I want to accept it, embrace it, but I can never quite get to truly 'believing' it.
I got there with meditation while completely sober but it took a lot of work and when it finally happened I had to set belief in my head to 100% and not allow any denial when this happened I litterally just blew open and had what people call an "awakening".
I was ego less for weeks after doing this or in a state of total awareness of now and openness that eventually became a bit much to handle but no belief was required because I'd popped myself open and I started seeing and sensing so much stuff around me (peoples deaths, future past events, human energy fields). It was intense when I first did this like being on acid or something for weeks accept I did sober from meditation.
I'm going to try and work on some methods to help other people do this or maybe explain how I did it for people who want to.
I had always heard in the past the you only awaken when its "meant" to happen but the people telling me this had not awakened themselves and IME of it the final push was all from me and what I was doing to get there so I think there is no special time. Also I've spoke to people who have awakened randomly just from shocking events such as their fathers death (thats quite a common one).
The primary way to do it is keep knocking down any mental barriers you have. You need to reach a point of being able to control fear and belief mentally at will and the way I did this was by challenging all my fears, I started by walking into graveyards alone in the pitch black and walking about at night in complete darkness into the middle of no where, then I started breaking down anxiety walls by talking to people I wouldn't and never holding back when I felt I should say something, eventually I left my home country and went traveling alone and in this time learnt how to meditate. When I got back home I started meditating again and thats when I finally popped myself open.
All of it came from bashing down my beliefs one by one. I believe a psychadelic drug can work in a similar way by forcing you to drop your beliefs and your ego and boom you will be open to this but the problem is it might not be as clear or as easy to remain in the open state afterwards as you can just blame the drug or say well I was just tripping and this is also combined with hallucination where as via meditation its 100% focused and clear.
This reply is greatly over simplified and just words but if you are past the fear part then try meditating and when you get good at meditation start playing with your brains belief settings.
You may need to fuck with your belief first but when it happens and you awaken theres no doubt at all or belief required in anything. Theres no mental thought constructs built by the ego to even analyse or create any doubt. Thats not to say you will randomly believe or accept anything either its more that that part of the brain is turned off and you are just awareness.
I suspect a lot of people have so many beliefs they have built up that they don't even realise these little walls they created. Its scary to knock these walls down for most people because they think they will go crazy or lose their morals or something.
Before this happened I didn't even know it was possible to induce ego death without drugs and I didn't believe in awakening at all I had told people I thought it was bullshit for years. But not many people are out there talking about this yet that I know of. I think its something I would like to help people push forward with if I can but putting it into words is very difficult, one can only experience.
If we could learn to guide people to ego death and/or awakening via meditation we could change the state of this world. All these ego maniacs causing so much suffering because they have forgotten could be healed. I feel a strong desire now to try and help because if people knew about oneness and unconditional love the world would be a much better place.
Edited by Paradigm Shift (01/27/17 02:07 AM)
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Very well put. I wonder how many people experience this today, it should be a lot more...
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: PrimalSoup] 2
#24045690 - 01/28/17 04:26 AM (7 years, 2 days ago) |
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Very cool thread.
DMT for me was definitely a "familiar place" like it had "been waiting for me", and someone in here said I think it was Eclipse that it's like going back to the timeless, to the beginning of time. Sounds about right!
Yes we are all God, God Alone Is, but this situation is not what it seems. You shouldn't have the notion in your mind that God and his games are somehow "normal" or "mundane".
This place, where you are right now, if you turn off the filters . . . fuck me dead. That's all I can say.
There are levels.
Meditate!!!
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: PrimalSoup]
#24046372 - 01/28/17 12:33 PM (7 years, 2 days ago) |
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PrimalSoup said: Uhm, >breakout< and no, but I've heard about it. I kinda hate to use it but it's so appropriate...
I mean are they called smileys..gif's..etc
You should watch the video though its pretty damn funny..out of nowhere the kid just jumps out the window and youre just like uhhhh ok..
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#24046376 - 01/28/17 12:34 PM (7 years, 2 days ago) |
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I believe they're called Graemlins on this message board.
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: Tiamo]
#24046502 - 01/28/17 01:40 PM (7 years, 2 days ago) |
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Tiamo said: I believe they're called Graemlins on this message board.
ahhh yes thank you
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: wolfiewolfie]
#24046868 - 01/28/17 04:18 PM (7 years, 2 days ago) |
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wolfiewolfie said: Science has shown us that you cant actually create cold, it is only the label we give to define the absence of heat
Interesting. I thought the theory of temperature was the speed of the movement of atoms. Heat=faster movement. Is not the absence of movement, stillness? In saying it another way, the absence of cold be heat? Thus it can go both ways.
So I think I see what that means- without movement things would be in their most basic state- absolute zero (cold). It's the addition of movement that creates heat.
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