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SleepyE
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#24035373 - 01/24/17 08:15 AM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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its pretty common. the mind will associate whatever historic figure you are most familiar with to fill the archetype. for buddhists they would say they are the reincarnation of the buddha. im not even a christian but for some reason i identified with that symbol
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: SleepyE]
#24035381 - 01/24/17 08:24 AM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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SleepyE said: its pretty common. the mind will associate whatever historic figure you are most familiar with to fill the archetype. for buddhists they would say they are the reincarnation of the buddha. im not even a christian but for some reason i identified with that symbol
Yeah totally makes sense
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#24035408 - 01/24/17 08:42 AM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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I thought I was in heaven rather than being Jesus, but I've also experienced hell. It's a mindstate
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: Eclipse3130]
#24035421 - 01/24/17 08:52 AM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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Dude i can relate to this so much. Mostly from my shroom experiences.
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#24035455 - 01/24/17 09:09 AM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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And here we are years later, accepting that we really are Jesus, reborn!
Let the grand spiritual revolution take way
A billion prophets
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: Eclipse3130]
#24035464 - 01/24/17 09:14 AM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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i dont have enough fingers on my hands to count how many people i have come across with similar delusions.
definitely shows a pattern in some respects
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: wolfiewolfie]
#24035599 - 01/24/17 10:02 AM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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OP, this sort of thing, where you can't grasp in ordinary reality what you can grasp while tripping, is pretty much a feature, not a bug. It takes a lot of work to be able to hang onto that stuff properly. People can go "well this is ego dissolution" and like but it's all far beyond those sort of limitations of self. It's because (I think) that your brain is operating in such a different (yet plausible and real) fashion while tripping that it's incongruent with ordinary thinking. Fortunately ordinary thinking is only an option, not a requirement.
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: PrimalSoup]
#24035861 - 01/24/17 11:57 AM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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It's not a delusion, it's just putting a word or characterization to the feeling. Nirvana, eternal bliss is another few.
It's why people run down the street naked, they realized the secrets to life.

Now I didn't do that, instead awestruck staring into the Sky for 4 hours realizing the nature of reality.
"Jesus" was only special because he was consciously "enlightended" and was a profound minority for that time period.
We're not a minority anymore
We are all becoming Jesus Esque
Prophets reborn
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: Eclipse3130]
#24035978 - 01/24/17 12:55 PM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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they call it christ consciousness apparently
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: wolfiewolfie]
#24036515 - 01/24/17 04:22 PM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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Sorry to give a possible explanation thats a bit more boring than everyone elses :P
So a few years ago when I was still a kid drinking in a field we did a looot of NO2.
And every single time I took it I experienced exactly the same thing you describe.
As soon as I came down I felt like I forgot "that thing", and for me it felt like it was something infinitely profound.
Im assuming its just a weird trick of the brain that doesnt need some spiritual explanation. Similar to de ja vu and times where you felt like you have dreamt that dream many times before, even though you know you havent.
As NO2 isnt such a "mystical" substance I put it down to a brain trick, however if it was DMT i know I would have believed that it was something more.
Even though im certain it wasnt something more than that, I still find it hard to ignore how real it felt.
Im not saying im definitely right or to ignore any of these other theories. But its easy to think things are more than they are when dealing with these substances.
Anyways, I hope im wrong and its something really awesome and you find it <3
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: Ech0]
#24036624 - 01/24/17 05:00 PM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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I felt like this on a very dissociative experience, where I was shown a possible solution to how this world and our consciousness works. It was something I never expected and I was totaly amazed and equally terrified. I can´t remember it, also. All that is left is a slight trail in my mind, like a small but distinct hint and the memory of that feeling I had.
It was NO2 (combined with Ketamin), also.^^
Btw: I would disagree on the point, that NO2 is not that mystical. Dissociatives offer a huge world of experiences and in my opinion they don´t need to hide. Some of my deepest psychedelical experiences (apart from DMT breakthrough) were on NO2.
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: DerPda]
#24036642 - 01/24/17 05:08 PM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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No2 reminded me of dmt. Visuals at the beginning somewhat similar but no2 doesnt give obe
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: SleepyE]
#24036684 - 01/24/17 05:25 PM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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Hm, I would tend to disagree. I had one experience on NO2, where I was killed in many different ways but did not remember it. I ended up on a party side of eternal pleasure. I could not communicate with my old friends or anyone I knew, but I met a guy, who looked like my best friend. He told me, that I would never be able to meet anyone of the ones I know again. I said to him: But hey, you are my best friend. He told me: No, I am everyone. You died. Now you can be everyone, too. Become whoever you want, do whatever you can imagine. I had to choose whether to accept those endless possibilities and be fortunate or become depressed or insane. I chose to be fortunate and as soon as I had made my choice, my ego vanished and I lived the life of a thousand people in one second. I was everyone and noone in eternity.
No need to say, that I burned my stash of NO2 this day. And I had to die each time before I was allowed to return to this place. It was amazing. And I think, this could be considered an out of body experience. Or would this be considered as ego death? I have to add, that it was NO2 combined with weed.
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: Ech0] 1
#24036811 - 01/24/17 06:05 PM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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Ech0 said: As NO2 isnt such a "mystical" substance I put it down to a brain trick, however if it was DMT i know I would have believed that it was something more.
A "brain trick" yet scientifically, the brain is like our deepest oceans: there's so much we don't know.
I'm very interested in science and always look for a plausible explanation for the unexplained, yet the deeper we go in many fields of science, the freakier reality gets, and the more alien our world becomes to what we thought we knew.
I'm reading a book that came out years ago called "Holographic Universe" that aims to explain many phenomena and holes in modern science by suggestion the theory of the universe being a hologram and our consciousness holographic by nature. The theory could help explain memories, dreams, collective consciousness, paranormal, etc. Pretty trippy stuff.
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: 277volt808]
#24037044 - 01/24/17 07:25 PM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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Lol you guys are inhailing nitrogen dioxide?
just busting your balls. Nitrous oxide is N2O though.
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: wolfiewolfie]
#24037085 - 01/24/17 07:40 PM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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I remembered that the same thing happenes every trip. I remembered that I remembered this thing every trip. I remembered not wanting to remember. I remembered every time telling myself 'never again'. I remembered that I would, thankfully, forget again and I remembered why it has to be forgotton. Now i'm back, I do not remember what 'it' is.
This feeling reminds me of certain shrooms trips I've had. There's almost a kind of state dependent memory in operation where the feeling of tripping brings back hidden memories from previous trips.
There is an ominous recollection that I am entering places within my trip where "they" are, mixed up with a sense of dread that I am looking at an alien reality or realm of the dead and will have to "die" in some sense to get through the trip. This is where the "never again" feeling comes in, but I try to remind myself that what seems hostile is actually what I am seeking.
Later in the trip I feel like I have been dead for a long time and I am actually more like one of the godlike entities feared at the start of the trip, involved in some kind of re-creation of past civilizations, as though my current incarnation is part of a game...
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: wolfiewolfie]
#24037301 - 01/24/17 09:15 PM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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OP: I know exactly what you mean. I more or less have this same experience every time I dose a decent amount of shrooms. Letting go of your life and accepting who you (really) are is the key.
For me, the "it" is remembering that I really am God and my life is just something I made up. And if I'm God, so are you - deep down we are all the SAME person. On shrooms it all seems so obvious, right?
We are as Gods and we might as well get good at it.
One way of thinking of it, that's helped me is E=MC2.
Everyone knows this famous equation but not everyone knows what it means. If you're unaware, E=MC2 means Energy is equal to mass times the speed of light squared.
Which, is just a fancy way of saying matter and energy are the same thing. Two sides of the same coin.
And that's what humanity/God are. Two sides of the SAME coin.
We can only experience one "side" of our self at a time. In order to be the "God you" the "ego you" must be temporarily put aside and visa versa.
God is your subconscious mind.
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wolfiewolfie said: I'm mainly writing this down so that I don't completley forget that I remember remembering. Bare with me, this will probably just sound confusing...
I just smoked DMT for the first time in a few months. As soon as it hit me I remembered. I remembered that the same thing happenes every trip. I remembered that I remembered this thing every trip. I remembered not wanting to remember. I remembered every time telling myself 'never again'. I remembered that I would, thankfully, forget again and I remembered why it has to be forgotton. Now i'm back, I do not remember what 'it' is.
Then the rest of the trip played out and it was just as beautiful and amazing as it always is.
As I was coming back into my body it felt like the memory of whatever it was I remembered was too big to fit into a human brain so it, along with the majority of the experience, had to be left 'there' and couldn't come back with me.
Now that I'm back I remember remembering, I just don't know what it is that I remembered. At the time it was so mind shattering that I was pleading with myself to never do it again, never remember THAT. But right now I would do it again no worries, if it wasn't for me remembering that I didn't want to remember 'something'.
I guess I won't know until I do it again.
Can anybody else relate to this?
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CrackingTheCode said: the "it" is remembering that I really am God

God is not some being out there in the sky or some cosmic puppeteer, God is here right now in every ordinary experience. Like the canvas of a painting the entire universe is painted on top of consciousness.
God, Consciousness, "I", Awareness, are all the same thing.
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: DerPda]
#24037734 - 01/25/17 03:57 AM (7 years, 5 days ago) |
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yeah i agree they can be deep and introspective and psychedelic, and they are also more than just getting high when used properly.
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: Trypto-Fan]
#24037741 - 01/25/17 04:04 AM (7 years, 5 days ago) |
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So I'm not the only one? This was very terrifying for me, looking behind the curtain so to say.
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