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wolfiewolfie
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DMT - Remembering THAT thing...
#24032778 - 01/23/17 09:13 AM (7 years, 7 days ago) |
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I'm mainly writing this down so that I don't completley forget that I remember remembering. Bare with me, this will probably just sound confusing...
I just smoked DMT for the first time in a few months. As soon as it hit me I remembered. I remembered that the same thing happenes every trip. I remembered that I remembered this thing every trip. I remembered not wanting to remember. I remembered every time telling myself 'never again'. I remembered that I would, thankfully, forget again and I remembered why it has to be forgotton. Now i'm back, I do not remember what 'it' is.
Then the rest of the trip played out and it was just as beautiful and amazing as it always is.
As I was coming back into my body it felt like the memory of whatever it was I remembered was too big to fit into a human brain so it, along with the majority of the experience, had to be left 'there' and couldn't come back with me.
Now that I'm back I remember remembering, I just don't know what it is that I remembered. At the time it was so mind shattering that I was pleading with myself to never do it again, never remember THAT. But right now I would do it again no worries, if it wasn't for me remembering that I didn't want to remember 'something'.
I guess I won't know until I do it again.
Can anybody else relate to this?
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Edited by wolfiewolfie (01/23/17 09:20 AM)
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Tmethyl
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: wolfiewolfie]
#24032811 - 01/23/17 09:32 AM (7 years, 7 days ago) |
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The mind comes right back in and covers it right back up.  The mind is also made of 'it' but even your thumb can block the light of the sun. The mind is just like this, when consciousness identifies as a person again, you are back into personhood. And no person can know this truth.
The thing you keep remembering and forgetting, is who you are. It is forgotten because who you are is not an object or a perception or an experience, and the mind only deals in these things. How to recognize something non-phenomenal?
I know it sounds so philosophical and spiritual. If you can manage to see through the mind without drugs, it will become more clear to you. You are this, right now.
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wolfiewolfie
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: Tmethyl]
#24032827 - 01/23/17 09:39 AM (7 years, 7 days ago) |
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Tmethyl said: The mind comes right back in and covers it right back up.  The mind is also made of 'it' but even your thumb can block the light of the sun. The mind is just like this, when consciousness identifies as a person again, you are back into personhood. And no person can know this truth.
The thing you keep remembering and forgetting, is who you are. It is forgotten because who you are is not an object or a perception or an experience, and the mind only deals in these things. How to recognize something non-phenomenal?
I know it sounds so philosophical and spiritual. If you can manage to see through the mind without drugs, it will become more clear to you. You are this, right now.
I can understand the layer beneath your words, however a part of me doesn't want to understand... It just wants to be kept distracted.
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Edited by wolfiewolfie (01/23/17 09:46 AM)
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Tmethyl
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: wolfiewolfie] 1
#24032849 - 01/23/17 09:46 AM (7 years, 7 days ago) |
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That is the struggle. The ego never wants to die.  But the ego is merely a modulation occurring inside consciousness, you were never actually it.
The ego is the character in the movie, but the movie is happening on the TV screen. You are the screen, not the character.
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wolfiewolfie
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: Tmethyl] 1
#24032872 - 01/23/17 09:56 AM (7 years, 7 days ago) |
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I understand that 'I' am not walking around with consciousness in my head, that 'I' am in fact consciousness itself and there are people walking around within me, one of which I am currently viewing myself from. 'I' am the container and everything exists within me.
It's not the understanding I have trouble with, its the accepting part... I want to accept it, embrace it, but I can never quite get to truly 'believing' it.
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The only reason why T-rex's can't walk backwards is because they're extinct, which perfectly explains why there are no headaches in the rainforest; The parrots eat 'em all. My Drawings
Edited by wolfiewolfie (01/23/17 10:03 AM)
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: wolfiewolfie]
#24032981 - 01/23/17 10:58 AM (7 years, 7 days ago) |
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You just made me anxious again, back to video games and doing nothing with friends 
Nah, I'm kidding, we have to push through this. I feel you OP, I have not taken DMT (yet) but I get this same impressions on weed... Is hard, isn't it? I always try to STAND quietly and accept it, but it gets too much to handle and I distract myself from it. "Forget about meditation, forget about mushrooms, forget about weed" I tell myself again and again, but I know I couldn't go back to a fully secular life and live happily. Once you peek behind the curtains...there's no way out but forward.
Then again, maybe you are talking about something entirely different
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wolfiewolfie
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: Warrior_Monk] 2
#24033044 - 01/23/17 11:29 AM (7 years, 7 days ago) |
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Warrior_Monk said: You just made me anxious again, back to video games and doing nothing with friends
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Warrior_Monk said: I always try to STAND quietly and accept it, but it gets too much to handle and I distract myself from it.
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Warrior_Monk said: Once you peek behind the curtains
What you say there sounds a lot like what I'm talking about, although I may be making connections where there aren't any.
I saw behind the curtains over a year ago (thanks LSD) and denied it at first. It was so empty and lonely. Then I accepted it, realizing that an empty glass just means that it can be filled with anything I want.
Looking back I don't think I really accepted it, more like ignored it and distracted myself in order to forget. But something always reminds me of it, kinda like seeing a note on the fridge reminding you to do that chore you keep putting off hoping it will go away.
I'm aware of the power beliefs have, both good and bad, so I don't really believe in anything that I can't verify for myself. I guess I can't bring myself to believe in 'that' out of fear of it just being a delusion, but now I kinda feel like im stuck in limbo, stagnant...
Maybe I just need a new hobbie... another distraction
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The only reason why T-rex's can't walk backwards is because they're extinct, which perfectly explains why there are no headaches in the rainforest; The parrots eat 'em all. My Drawings
Edited by wolfiewolfie (01/23/17 11:34 AM)
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soultripper
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: Tmethyl]
#24034608 - 01/23/17 09:30 PM (7 years, 7 days ago) |
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Tmethyl said: That is the struggle. The ego never wants to die.  But the ego is merely a modulation occurring inside consciousness, you were never actually it.
The ego is the character in the movie, but the movie is happening on the TV screen. You are the screen, not the character.
Awesome words, my friend. I have "memories" that I cannot remember that I want to bring back. There is a terrifying place in the journey to the other realm, but for me, first the rocket launch from one reality to another, then once arriving there, like a two sided coin; has on one side an aggressive male deity-like presence, on the other is a gentle, loving, female deity-presence. There is a tornado of information that carries all of the knowledge and wisdom of the universe, and only while outside of my organic brain can I conceive and understand it all....once my physical brain becomes the vessel of my consciousness, it cannot process it all, and it's lost.
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: soultripper] 1
#24034621 - 01/23/17 09:35 PM (7 years, 7 days ago) |
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The smell and taste of dmt gives me the chills. Its like i am remembering it all over again..
I remember having this dream where i sat down and smoked like 8 hits of dmt and just kept going and going
For a long time i didnt know if it was a dream or not. Ever since then i realized one can blast off in their dreams despite thinking it was bullshit before.
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: soultripper]
#24034641 - 01/23/17 09:42 PM (7 years, 7 days ago) |
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The thing we all hide from is the thing we are all seeking. Isn't that fucking hilarious? 
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pineninja
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: Tmethyl]
#24034648 - 01/23/17 09:44 PM (7 years, 7 days ago) |
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As soon as I enter I remember as if it's been waiting for me. What or where that is I couldn't tell you now. Completely get you.
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: pineninja]
#24034699 - 01/23/17 10:13 PM (7 years, 7 days ago) |
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Chongo
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Edited by Amanita86 (01/23/17 10:31 PM)
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wolfiewolfie
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: pineninja]
#24034704 - 01/23/17 10:18 PM (7 years, 7 days ago) |
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pineninja said: As soon as I enter I remember as if it's been waiting for me.
Yes! But its like im not supposed to remember it yet and think 'oh fuck what have i done!? I need to forget this now!'
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The only reason why T-rex's can't walk backwards is because they're extinct, which perfectly explains why there are no headaches in the rainforest; The parrots eat 'em all. My Drawings
Edited by wolfiewolfie (01/23/17 10:19 PM)
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: wolfiewolfie]
#24034883 - 01/24/17 12:03 AM (7 years, 7 days ago) |
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anyone ever do dmt while on mdma?
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wolfiewolfie
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tyrannicalrex said: anyone ever do dmt while on mdma?
Ive done it while coming down from mdma. 0 fear, it was amazing.
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: wolfiewolfie]
#24035203 - 01/24/17 05:53 AM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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I've had a similar thing getting really far out on LSD. This trip was so out there that half of it I've forgotten or can't even put into words but I'll try;
It was like finding 'the ultimate secret', but I wasn't supposed to know, and the vibe I got was, "All this stuff (life), it's here for YOU, embrace it all, live life fully, and stop seeking *this* (weird secret knowledge thingy that I can't put into words or even remember).
But yeah, at the time I was like... why do I do this to myself, haha.
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: Trypto-Fan]
#24035283 - 01/24/17 07:10 AM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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It's because you are experiencing the beginning of time, that's where you go when you die, it's not supposed to be experienced until true Death but since we are timeless energies embodied by the physical manifestation of time we are able to simulate a death experience with overload of DMT.
Once you get comfortable with dying, is when you get comfortable with living. Practice surrendering in daily life and you will inhabit a more pure state of consciousness, never truly living or nonliving but a dream of such
The secret is, it's never comfortable to die. Only Love can guide and teach us, dying is just a remembering process, it's always a lot to take in - for to remember the entirety of your existence would not have the conscious capacity to portray it, as you can only be it in the moment of time itself, an infinite complex structure itself
Instead we constantly die and are reborn, for eternity. Only in the glimpses between the seams of what makes us "real" are we able to perceive outside the spectrum of "existence" outside of Ego
Just to realize it's a part of us as much we are a part of it.
The pursuit of happiness, going towards the light is our inevitable cyclic existence. We love to forget as much as we love remembering, we do it every day.
-------------------- "In The Material World One seeks retirement and grows Old In The Magical World One seeks Enlightenment and grows Wiser In The Miraculous World One seeks nothing and grows Lighter As we all tread the Homeward Path we will explore many Realms And one day... we will all Realize that all experiences are Simply Different ways in which The All-That Is Perceives Itself"
Edited by Eclipse3130 (01/24/17 07:36 AM)
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: Eclipse3130]
#24035341 - 01/24/17 07:55 AM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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Eclipse3130 said: It's because you are experiencing the beginning of time, that's where you go when you die, it's not supposed to be experienced until true Death but since
Interesting you say that, because on the same trip I just referenced, I also experienced a moment of witnessing 'the creation of the universe', and, it was ME who was creating it...
Damn I feel I need to go back... But it's scary 0_o
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: Trypto-Fan]
#24035347 - 01/24/17 07:58 AM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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Eclipse3130 said: It's because you are experiencing the beginning of time, that's where you go when you die, it's not supposed to be experienced until true Death but since
Interesting you say that, because on the same trip I just referenced, I also experienced a moment of witnessing 'the creation of the universe', and, it was ME who was creating it...
Damn I feel I need to go back... But it's scary 0_o
just dont get carried away with that revelation and think you are literally jesus like i did or do so if that sounds interesting hehe
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Re: DMT - Remembering THAT thing... [Re: SleepyE]
#24035361 - 01/24/17 08:06 AM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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SleepyE said:
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Trypto-Fan said:
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Eclipse3130 said: It's because you are experiencing the beginning of time, that's where you go when you die, it's not supposed to be experienced until true Death but since
Interesting you say that, because on the same trip I just referenced, I also experienced a moment of witnessing 'the creation of the universe', and, it was ME who was creating it...
Damn I feel I need to go back... But it's scary 0_o
just dont get carried away with that revelation and think you are literally jesus like i did or do so if that sounds interesting hehe
i thought i was Jesus as well
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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