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Miranda



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Too Moist? Day Four
#24032689 - 01/23/17 08:10 AM (7 years, 7 days ago) |
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So I incoulated the jars last week and I did not have an easy time putting in 1cc per jar. It was difficult to press down the syringe. Seemed like if I could even get some out, it would jam. Twice was to verm getting stuck, but the verm is not a fine grade.
So now I'm starting wonder if there's too much condensation and if I should try again, being careful to make it more dry inside. The condensation after sterilization seems to come and ago. Last night, the jars seemed a wee drier.
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Edited by tamales (01/27/17 12:26 PM)
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Dactylium
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Re: Too Moist? Day Four [Re: tamales]
#24032853 - 01/23/17 09:48 AM (7 years, 7 days ago) |
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Take your foil off, it's only there to protect the dry vermiculite barrier from water during sterilization. The condensation may be due to the gaps between your cake and the glass.
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Re: Too Moist? Day Four [Re: Dactylium]
#24033465 - 01/23/17 03:04 PM (7 years, 7 days ago) |
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I read some condensation is okay and even preferable, but I do wonder if there's too much in these jars?
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Re: Too Moist? Day Four [Re: tamales]
#24033520 - 01/23/17 03:19 PM (7 years, 7 days ago) |
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Hey man it ain't a problem til it's a problem. Ditch the foil and see what grows.
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Re: Too Moist? Day Four [Re: Dactylium]
#24033625 - 01/23/17 04:08 PM (7 years, 7 days ago) |
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Those are not jars that's a cup. The foil is his lid.
That's my guess.
Idk following directions is where I would start. Correct jars and use lids
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Miranda



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I live in Ireland now(still missing tamales) where 8oz, wide mouth jars are not common. Instead of shelling out on jars to be shipped from America, I went with an alternative of 8oz drinking glasses. This is an acceptable method and has been mentioned in PF Tek for Simple Minds or something titled similarly. People even make shrooms out of shot glasses.
Well, if anyone knows of how to reduce condensation, know I'm all eyes.
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Re: Too Moist? Day Four [Re: tamales]
#24033983 - 01/23/17 06:14 PM (7 years, 7 days ago) |
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your substrate does look too wet*
If u have a dry verm barrier, remove the foil and the substrate should dry out over a week or so.
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Re: Too Moist? Day Four [Re: tamales]
#24033991 - 01/23/17 06:16 PM (7 years, 7 days ago) |
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Your fine man.
I agree with ditching the foil as it no longer serves a purpose but may hinder the breathability. The condensation isn't any worse than any I ever had, I think you are gold ...
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Quote:
bodhisatta said: Those are not jars that's a cup. The foil is his lid.
That's my guess.
Idk following directions is where I would start. Correct jars and use lids
The foil is his lid. I would just leave those as is and get proper jars & lids then start a new batch.
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Re: Too Moist? Day Four [Re: tamales]
#24034164 - 01/23/17 06:55 PM (7 years, 7 days ago) |
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tamales said: I live in Ireland now(still missing tamales) where 8oz, wide mouth jars are not common. Instead of shelling out on jars to be shipped from America, I went with an alternative of 8oz drinking glasses. This is an acceptable method and has been mentioned in PF Tek for Simple Minds or something titled similarly. People even make shrooms out of shot glasses.
Well, if anyone knows of how to reduce condensation, know I'm all eyes.
Yes well there's a lot of shit TEKs just because someone writes it up doesn't make it good.
And it's well understood that in the UK the exact jars cant be found but you do have ~250mL jars with threaded metal lids. Usually the lids are checkered red and white
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Re: Too Moist? Day Four [Re: Grambo]
#24034245 - 01/23/17 07:12 PM (7 years, 7 days ago) |
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Grambo said: Your fine man.
I agree with ditching the foil as it no longer serves a purpose but may hinder the breathability. The condensation isn't any worse than any I ever had, I think you are gold ...
I have two pieces of foil over the glass. One piece of foil has holes due to inoculation with microporous tape over it. Put the tape down then inserted the syringe through the tape. There's a lid of foil over that which purpose was to stop water going in during sterilization. I kept the second foil over as a precaution; moldy bathroom, dated apartment, and poor insulation seems like a mighty risk, aye?
So, both foils should go or one? In the PF Tek for Simple Minds tutorial, he not only used drinking glasses but also kept the lid that served as a shield for water after the sterilization. Putting it on after inoculation. Perhaps in my case it should go given the build up of condensation/lack of ability to breathe?
Thank you for the feedback. Yeah, from other stressed newbie threads, I read condensation is indeed normal and actually needed in the process of mycelium growth. Too much moisture or solution from the syringe is where problems can form.
Thank you for the reassurance that the condensation from these jars is not an over kill. I'd rate you up, but I've to reach the 50 posts mark.
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Re: Too Moist? Day Four [Re: tamales]
#24034277 - 01/23/17 07:20 PM (7 years, 7 days ago) |
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No need for the top piece of foil if you made a dry verm barrier. Not having an actual lid makes me nervous but if you already inoculated there's not much to do but wait. I'd look for the jars Bodh mentioned and get em ready in case this fails. Did you at least use a pressure cooker?
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Re: Too Moist? Day Four [Re: tamales]
#24034286 - 01/23/17 07:23 PM (7 years, 7 days ago) |
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I had to go through this too brother, kinda like when my kid was born, nothing but nerves.
Keep the bottom layer of foil and take off the top. I have just left BRF and grain jars that way and had success, you will too. My drinking glasses were the only thing I could find in Canada without a taper and they were left to me by my folks when they got new ones 30 years ago. Dude, they worked fine.
You won't have the best until you proceed to isolating, but that is where I am right now, still new as well brother.
1 layer of foil, leave on a shelf somewhere and check now and then... your life is about to become a little more fun bro.
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Re: Too Moist? Day Four [Re: Grambo] 2
#24034361 - 01/23/17 07:44 PM (7 years, 7 days ago) |
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OHH, and crap...
My best success was these PP5 rated containers from the dollar store.

I was just having fun, I called it "Indica Jones and the temple of Shroom".
Have fun, what can go wrong?
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Re: Too Moist? Day Four [Re: Grambo]
#24034366 - 01/23/17 07:47 PM (7 years, 7 days ago) |
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PP5 Isn't a thing Its PP and 5 Pp is polypropylene and 5 is the recycling code For example polystyrene is 6 so it says PS and 6 on things made of polystyrene
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Re: Too Moist? Day Four [Re: Grambo]
#24034449 - 01/23/17 08:20 PM (7 years, 7 days ago) |
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"Temple of Shrooms" 
Nice blade too
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Dactylium
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I understand. I can't tell you how many times I've had to remind my girlfriend they're polystyrene cups, not Styrofoam.
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Well ya Bod, I know, I was just stating PP5 as a term for what we use for high temp rated containers... nothing more.
I am just pointing out that I had a hard time finding containers where I live and plastic is the easy alternative is all.
Thanks Logical, just wanted to get a chuckle!
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Re: Too Moist? Day Four [Re: amidogen]
#24034696 - 01/23/17 10:10 PM (7 years, 7 days ago) |
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