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Woodchips now what?
    #24030952 - 01/22/17 03:46 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

So I was at a local barnhunt event with my dog and noticed a dumpsite for woodchips.  Of course my first thought was how can I make this into mushrooms.  Im not sure the wood type, but from the bark I am pretty certain it isnt pine, looks fresh and is possibly alder and maybe some eucalyptus mixed in. I filled a few feed bags to see if it would work for fruiting substrate for one of my mushroom projects.  I have jars of grain spawn of lions mane, enoki, reshi, blue, king and phoenix oysters and even a few jars of ps cyan almost fully colonized on milo.  I will throw together some sort of drum pasturizer or steam sterilizer this week and play mushrooms, but was wondering what my best use of this giant pile of woodchips might be. (besides a super soaker of cyan lc :wink:)


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Re: Woodchips now what? [Re: Roostorf]
    #24030980 - 01/22/17 04:01 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

https://www.shroomery.org/10862/Noobies-Sawdust-Wood-Chip-Tek
Thinking something like this, but the wood pellets at my local stores don't say they come from hardwood, they either don't say at all or say Douglas fir (which I have read works for certain types and is resistant to thrich). Does any wood fuel pellet work because I haven't found a good source of sawdust yet.


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Re: Woodchips now what? [Re: Roostorf]
    #24031028 - 01/22/17 04:21 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

Ive had good luck growing oysters on boiled wood chips.


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Re: Woodchips now what? [Re: Roostorf]
    #24031037 - 01/22/17 04:22 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

Ps. Cyanescens, azurescens, serbica, ovoideocystidiata, list goes on.. what is your goal? Beds of psychoactives?


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Re: Woodchips now what? [Re: Adden]
    #24031219 - 01/22/17 05:22 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

How are hemlock and oak? I know alder and Douglas fir are recommended, but am not sure how other hardwoods compare to those. I'm spawning reishi and maitake alder pellets to wood chips outdoors.


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Re: Woodchips now what? [Re: Adden]
    #24031225 - 01/22/17 05:24 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

Im not trying to produce tons of actives, maybe a patch or two closer to home, but not really my main goal.  I just like growing mushrooms, I am into agriculture and sustainability and as a farmer my real goal is to recycle waste and bi products to make usuable food, whether feeding my chickens expired bread from the bread outlet, using wood chip piles for mushrooms or using mushroom compost and animal manure to grow my plants.  I just like to take advantage of the wonderful cycle of life.  That being said i am totally gonna seed the rest of that wood chip lot with tons of cyanescens as soon as I get the chance.  Wish I could try some of the other types you mentioned but right now I only have wild cyan spore prints I started on agar and transeferred to LC and grain


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Re: Woodchips now what? [Re: Roostorf]
    #24031231 - 01/22/17 05:26 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

Oak is good for most mushrooms but is dense and takes longer to break down is my understanding. Not sure about hemlock, but i know lots of mushrooms are found in hemlock forests around here.


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Re: Woodchips now what? [Re: AndyHinton]
    #24031285 - 01/22/17 05:43 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

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How are hemlock and oak? I know alder and Douglas fir are recommended, but am not sure how other hardwoods compare to those. I'm spawning reishi and maitake alder pellets to wood chips outdoors.




Douglas fir, hemlock and alder and oak work, among others.


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Re: Woodchips now what? [Re: Roostorf]
    #24031295 - 01/22/17 05:45 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

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Im not trying to produce tons of actives, maybe a patch or two closer to home, but not really my main goal.  I just like growing mushrooms, I am into agriculture and sustainability and as a farmer my real goal is to recycle waste and bi products to make usuable food, whether feeding my chickens expired bread from the bread outlet, using wood chip piles for mushrooms or using mushroom compost and animal manure to grow my plants.  I just like to take advantage of the wonderful cycle of life.  That being said i am totally gonna seed the rest of that wood chip lot with tons of cyanescens as soon as I get the chance.  Wish I could try some of the other types you mentioned but right now I only have wild cyan spore prints I started on agar and transeferred to LC and grain




Chickenscratch is high in nitrates. You could spawn something like agrocybe praecox to keep a tight top layer which most woodlovers enjoy (esp cyans).

Maybe Stevo and LoM can help. I'll light up the bat signal.

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Re: Woodchips now what? [Re: Adden]
    #24031332 - 01/22/17 05:54 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

Thanks! I have a syringe of black poplar (agrocybe aegerita) I can try since i dont have the praecox, but im pretty sure even though its new it is contaminated, so I will go about my first clean up attempt on agar tomorrow when my petris arrive.  Btw do you mean chicken scratch or chicken shit, because scratch is corn milo and wheat and would seem like something you could use as spawn


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Re: Woodchips now what? [Re: Roostorf]
    #24031362 - 01/22/17 06:02 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

Sorry, chicken poo. And yes any agrocybe will do well at tightening the top layer. They're pretty voracious.


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Re: Woodchips now what? [Re: Adden]
    #24031434 - 01/22/17 06:27 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

Thats great, I have been thinking about adding it to straw for oysters but didnt realize woodships could be supplemented with the manure as well.  Im excited to get to use the poop twice, because ill still end up putting the compost in the garden. Also have rabbit poo which just eats organic alfalfa pellets and feathers from the meaties.  I will try to find some info and experiment with ratios this weekend.  Also interested in supplemented cardboard in the near future as well. 
Imteresting side note, we have years of experiance keeping rabbits for food, about a year ago we had a big problem getting them to reproduce, didnt matter which heritage, they would mate but no babies, I thought they were sterile, well we switched from conventional to organic feed and within a month we had pregnant does.  There is some bad stuff in that non-organic feed I tell you what.

Btw the rabbits dont eat feathers, i meant i also have feathers from our meat birds sometimes as well


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Re: Woodchips now what? [Re: Roostorf]
    #24031537 - 01/22/17 07:00 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

I would try cold colonization and not bother with pasteurizing the substrate(woodchips). I didn't pasteurize a thing and had great results this last fall.


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Re: Woodchips now what? [Re: Adden]
    #24031673 - 01/22/17 07:38 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

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How are hemlock and oak? I know alder and Douglas fir are recommended, but am not sure how other hardwoods compare to those. I'm spawning reishi and maitake alder pellets to wood chips outdoors.




No Douglas fir. Hemlock and alder and oak work, among others.




DF works for woodloving psilocybes.


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Re: Woodchips now what? [Re: Mr Piggy]
    #24031686 - 01/22/17 07:42 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

Oh. I must have it mixed up. Thought we were supposed to stay away if we could. Thanks for clarifying.. I'll edit my post.


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Re: Woodchips now what? [Re: Adden]
    #24031994 - 01/22/17 09:27 PM (7 years, 7 days ago)

DF works but it's best to let it ferment for a couple months beforehand if possible. I had spots where the cyan myc didn't take to fresh DF but 5 months later it would.


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Re: Woodchips now what? [Re: liloldme]
    #24032002 - 01/22/17 09:34 PM (7 years, 7 days ago)

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DF works but it's best to let it ferment for a couple months beforehand if possible. I had spots where the cyan myc didn't take to fresh DF but 5 months later it would.




What's your method to ferment them? Is the fermentation for colonization, fruiting or both?


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    #24032059 - 01/22/17 10:06 PM (7 years, 7 days ago)

I believe the process goes:

Step one:

Pile chips in the yard.

Step two:

Wait a few months.


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Re: Woodchips now what? [Re: Mr Piggy]
    #24032103 - 01/22/17 10:23 PM (7 years, 7 days ago)

Thanks for that advice LoM! I had checked out your cyan grow a few times already.  I always get lost in the pages of responses, did the places with liquid culture take as well as the wood chip spawn?  I saw you mentioned you were trying both.


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Re: Woodchips now what? [Re: Mr Piggy]
    #24032152 - 01/22/17 10:55 PM (7 years, 7 days ago)

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I believe the process goes:

Step one:

Pile chips in the yard.

Step two:

Wait a few months.



:smile:

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