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cant find the joy in anything after swapping h for subutex
    #24030276 - 01/22/17 11:33 AM (7 years, 8 days ago)

Any one been in this situation and got any pointers???


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Re: cant find the joy in anything after swapping h for subutex [Re: BasilBush] * 2
    #24030286 - 01/22/17 11:38 AM (7 years, 8 days ago)

Wean off the subs, work through your issues & pick up new hobbies. It'll be tough, and it'll get a lot worse before it gets better. But then it will get better, and you'll find joy in life sober. I can't express enough how much of a gift that is. Lot of success can be found when you're not dependent on a substance to get the day  anymore as well. Good luck; you can do this! :hug:


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Re: cant find the joy in anything after swapping h for subutex [Re: Dark_Star] * 1
    #24030339 - 01/22/17 12:02 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

Im surprised DarkStar didn't mention it but exercise really helped me. Running/jogging wasn't really my thing but I really took to lifting weights. You need to get your blood flowing and your natural endorphins flowing again.

Time is a huge factor also...takes time. Make sure you give kratom a shot if you feel like you cannot take anymore.

Been there man. Once you abuse opiates its difficult to find happiness in anything accept more dope. Thats how it works on you. Do not fall for its trap. You got this.:grin:


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Re: cant find the joy in anything after swapping h for subutex [Re: DayTripper1]
    #24030346 - 01/22/17 12:05 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

That's a good point. I got into working out in rehab, and that's been the main thing that keeps me sane.


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Re: cant find the joy in anything after swapping h for subutex [Re: Dark_Star]
    #24032351 - 01/23/17 01:17 AM (7 years, 7 days ago)

Its a long old slug, twice I've got down to less then 4mg of subs and then just give up and go back on the h its fucking crazy. I cant remember a time when drugs wasn't a part of my life from weed to speed. Then e's for around 4 years. I find if I have plenty of 1p, lsd or shrooms its a lot easier to deal with all the nasty side effects .

I agree with you both tho I need to aim for a drug free life or at least just trip 2-3 time a year

And get off my arse and exercise or do a lot more.

Thanks for the advice ill use it and see how things go


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Re: cant find the joy in anything after swapping h for subutex [Re: BasilBush]
    #24032414 - 01/23/17 02:38 AM (7 years, 7 days ago)

there's this vice documentary about people who used massive doses of ibogaine to rid them of their heroin addiction and it worked


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Re: cant find the joy in anything after swapping h for subutex [Re: BasilBush]
    #24032453 - 01/23/17 03:30 AM (7 years, 7 days ago)

Getting off subs is hard. I actually wound up going to rehab to kick that shit, cause I just couldn't do it otherwise. Withdrawal lasts too long. It was a process. Dope sick for about a month, PAWS for up to a year or so. But, it was well worth it & I was able to find joy & build a good life life for myself. Didn't take a year to find the joy either. That happened when I was still in rehab. As long as you're on subs, you're under the thumb of the monkey. And that gonna hold you back. Stopping will suck, but it's worth it & you can do it.


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Re: cant find the joy in anything after swapping h for subutex [Re: Dark_Star]
    #24056316 - 02/01/17 01:57 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Ibogaine work for me to get off Subutex it was an amazing profound experience I was on heroin for three years then suboxone for a whole year was on my last leg and now I've been clean for 6 months


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Re: cant find the joy in anything after swapping h for subutex [Re: Mateows]
    #24056420 - 02/01/17 05:28 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Congrats on your 6 months--and welcome!


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Re: cant find the joy in anything after swapping h for subutex [Re: pslyke]
    #24056429 - 02/01/17 05:42 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

I need to mention that you should never take ibogaine without someone watching over you. In some people it causes serious health complications which can be fatal.

https://www.ibogainealliance.org/ibogaine/therapy/safety/

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Re: cant find the joy in anything after swapping h for subutex [Re: pslyke]
    #24056434 - 02/01/17 05:56 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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Congrats on your 6 months--and welcome!




I second that , I don't think ibogaine would be an option in the uk. But would really like to give it ago. Money is tight tho and I bet that costs a good lump,

How much was your ibogaine session??


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