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Re: The women's march is hella transphobic [Re: Prisoner#1] * 2
    #24034984 - 01/24/17 01:28 AM (7 years, 7 days ago)

Actually I would probably agree halfway of what you would agree with which would probably be surprising to you. I am pretty conservative in my views. I have also done plenty of research on these topics for my own viewpoints. Some things I was surprised to hear. I take things for facts. I get crazy emotional about my values, especially when I feel defensive, but I try to stick only to fact based assumptions. It is like hearing gossip about someone... people keep saying so many negative things about people but I never prematurely discredit them until I react with them and see for myself. Very rarely would I actually find the gossip is truth.

I am happy to discuss my opinion on the matter, as long as you don't assume I am for feminazi viewpoints. I am egalitarian, as long as no one is afflicting violence, discrimination, and abuse towards others. These things are mostly on individual fronts and I do not stereotype.

But right now, this thread has rustled my jimmies too much and I have had a pretty awful day without it.


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Re: The women's march is hella transphobic [Re: pachoo] * 2
    #24035160 - 01/24/17 05:16 AM (7 years, 6 days ago)

Beyond the abortion stuff women have more legal rights than men in America in modern times. We definitely need to allow women to abort babies if they want (it's also good for the environment), and then after that we can drop "women's rights" completely and just focus on general human rights and equality across the map. Women and men should have equal rights and nobody should have an upper hand in society based on their sex.

As far as the transsexual fad these days, I definitely do not respect men as women and vice versa and feel it's pretty sexist, but this is America and if attention-starved and/or mentally ill people want to pretend to be something they're not then they should be free to as long as they aren't negatively affecting others in a significant way. If I wanted to pretend that I was born as an Asian person trapped inside of a European person's body then I feel like I should have the right to as long as I wasn't hurting anyone or dragging society down in some kind of way, even though it does seem pretty racist.


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Re: The women's march is hella transphobic [Re: John Nada]
    #24035200 - 01/24/17 05:50 AM (7 years, 6 days ago)

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Beyond the abortion stuff women have more legal rights than men in America in modern times. We definitely need to allow women to abort babies if they want (it's also good for the environment), and then after that we can drop "women's rights" completely and just focus on general human rights and equality across the map. Women and men should have equal rights and nobody should have an upper hand in society based on their sex.

As far as the transsexual fad these days, I definitely do not respect men as women and vice versa and feel it's pretty sexist, but this is America and if attention-starved and/or mentally ill people want to pretend to be something they're not then they should be free to as long as they aren't negatively affecting others in a significant way. If I wanted to pretend that I was born as an Asian person trapped inside of a European person's body then I feel like I should have the right to as long as I wasn't hurting anyone or dragging society down in some kind of way, even though it does seem pretty racist.




This is why trans people are still stuck in the 70's.
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Re: The women's march is hella transphobic [Re: Apollyphelion] * 4
    #24035204 - 01/24/17 05:56 AM (7 years, 6 days ago)

Not really, and I think that applies more to your reaction. I'm not emotionally invested in this at all. I even said trannies should have the right to do what they want as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else.


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Re: The women's march is hella transphobic [Re: John Nada]
    #24035210 - 01/24/17 06:03 AM (7 years, 6 days ago)

the fact you call them trannies means we got a ways to go.


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Re: The women's march is hella transphobic [Re: Apollyphelion] * 6
    #24035221 - 01/24/17 06:13 AM (7 years, 6 days ago)

Why? Do you ever say the term "white people"? If so, then we have a ways to go. I demand that all white people be referred to as "The apes that evolved to have fair skin in Europe through natural selection" every single time you mention anyone of European heritage. And I'm not even fully white, so I will require some additional yet-to-be-determined pre-approved modifiers to that phrase, or else you're a bigot.


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Re: The women's march is hella transphobic [Re: John Nada]
    #24035225 - 01/24/17 06:16 AM (7 years, 6 days ago)

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Why? Do you ever say the term "white people"? If so, then we have a ways to go. I demand that all white people be referred to as "The apes that evolved to have fair skin in Europe through natural selection" every single time you mention anyone of European heritage. And I'm not even fully white, so I will require some additional yet-to-be-determined pre-approved modifiers to that phrase, or else you're a bigot.




Trannie was specifically crafted to be an insult, not a neutral descriptor. White people wasn't specifically created to demean and marginalized. They are functionally different words. By your logic, nigger is as acceptable as black person, because they are both descriptors.

You intentionally want to harm, I don't, and thats the diff between you and me.


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Re: The women's march is hella transphobic [Re: Apollyphelion] * 4
    #24035233 - 01/24/17 06:26 AM (7 years, 6 days ago)

I disagree, I think it's just a shorter/lazier way to say "transexual", but regardless I was not trying to insult transexual people. I don't have to use that phrase if it bothers other people though. It's not a big deal either way. You just used the phrase "white people" though, and did not follow the rules that I set for you. You are not following the speech laws I have given you, so you should not have any expectations for me to reciprocate. If I wanted to be a dick right now I would've just called you "tranny", but my intention is not to be offensive or hostile.


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Re: The women's march is hella transphobic [Re: John Nada]
    #24035239 - 01/24/17 06:31 AM (7 years, 6 days ago)

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I disagree, I think it's just a shorter/lazier way to say "transexual", but regardless I was not trying to insult transexual people. I don't have to use that phrase if it bothers other people though. It's not a big deal either way. You just used the phrase "white people" though, and did not follow the rules that I set for you. You are not following the speech laws I have given you, so you should not have any expectations for me to reciprocate. If I wanted to be a dick right now I would've just called you "tranny", but my intention is not to be offensive or hostile.




First explain to me how the phrase white people is used specifically to dehumanize and demean. White people and tranny are not equal labels. Like I said, based off your logic, nigger isn't offensive if I don't believe it is.

You COULD be a good example and never use the word tranny, just like tons of people never use the word nigger. I don't believe you will
and you're lazy at best.


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Re: The women's march is hella transphobic [Re: Apollyphelion] * 6
    #24035248 - 01/24/17 06:44 AM (7 years, 6 days ago)

Because I said I find it offensive if you use that phrase and not "The apes that evolved to have fair skin in Europe through natural selection". You, however, simply don't care if I am offended, and are literally saying I shouldn't find it offensive because you don't. I already explained how I didn't find the term "tranny" offensive or mean in it any derogatory way, but that I didn't have to say it if it offended you. You will not reciprocate though, and think that only your own particular beliefs and values have any merit or deserve any consideration.


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Re: The women's march is hella transphobic [Re: John Nada]
    #24035319 - 01/24/17 07:39 AM (7 years, 6 days ago)

You think the meaning you give a word over shadows the collective and most widely used definition. Words don't mean whatever I want them to.


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Re: The women's march is hella transphobic [Re: Apollyphelion] * 5
    #24035374 - 01/24/17 08:16 AM (7 years, 6 days ago)

"Tranny" is not a derogatory term to most people, and definitely not even remotely close to the offensiveness of "nigger" like you suggest. If you won't stop saying a word or phrase that I find offensive because you feel that it's not offensive to most people and simply do not care about me or my feelings as an individual, then you can't expect me to not say "tranny" (even though I already agreed not to since you find it offensive). You're being very unreasonable here and only care about your own individual self. You want everyone to do things your way, only your way, but refuse to work with or even consider other humans or their points of view. You have a massive ego and sense of entitlement and you should probably see a psychologist as soon as possible.


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Re: The women's march is hella transphobic [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #24035439 - 01/24/17 09:04 AM (7 years, 6 days ago)

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Trannie was specifically crafted to be an insult






no it wasnt, it was a shortened version of transvestite but because in the latter
part of the 20th century people were not willing to distinguish between one guy that
liked to dress like a woman and one that wanted to become a woman, the term was used
interchangeably by most because of the 'trans' prefix. this is no different than
asantes claims that the term faggot came about because of the burning of homosexuals
as if they were fuel for a fire. a faggot is actually the measurement for the bundle
of sticks, not the bundle and it's contents


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Re: The women's march is hella transphobic [Re: John Nada] * 2
    #24035441 - 01/24/17 09:05 AM (7 years, 6 days ago)

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"Tranny" is not a derogatory term to most people, and definitely not even remotely close to the offensiveness of "nigger" like you suggest.






transgenders and blacks both use these terms they claim to be offensive so until
both groups stop using them completely I cannot take them seriously when they
claim it as offensive


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Re: The women's march is hella transphobic [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #24035572 - 01/24/17 09:50 AM (7 years, 6 days ago)



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Re: The women's march is hella transphobic [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #24035633 - 01/24/17 10:15 AM (7 years, 6 days ago)

This thread is dumb.
Stop looking for enemies where there are none.


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Re: The women's march is hella transphobic [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #24035707 - 01/24/17 10:44 AM (7 years, 6 days ago)

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Quote:

John Nada said:
Why? Do you ever say the term "white people"? If so, then we have a ways to go. I demand that all white people be referred to as "The apes that evolved to have fair skin in Europe through natural selection" every single time you mention anyone of European heritage. And I'm not even fully white, so I will require some additional yet-to-be-determined pre-approved modifiers to that phrase, or else you're a bigot.




Trannie was specifically crafted to be an insult, not a neutral descriptor. White people wasn't specifically created to demean and marginalized. They are functionally different words. By your logic, nigger is as acceptable as black person, because they are both descriptors.

You intentionally want to harm, I don't, and thats the diff between you and me.




While respecting that our views on this matter differ somewhat,
would just like to chime in a bit here.

While trannie is frequently employed with an implied derisiveness,
also presume that it is frequently employed due to lack of awareness more than intention to harm.

Similar to how it is my presumption that the focus on pussy imagery in the women's march was more in response to Trump's recording during the election cycle,
rather than intentional efforts on that part of participants to alienate a portion of women.

However, to me, the issue around the term trannie is not with regards to the intention of the person using it to be derisive or not,
but rather that it potentially exposes the individual to violence, even if it may not be the intention of the person who used it.

There are a number, perhaps the majority, of people that are apathetic or tacitly opposed to the concept of transitioning,
as well as a number that are vocally opposed,
personally accept that; no one on this planet is accepted by everyone.

There are also a number of people that are violently opposed to the concept of transitioning,
and they are where the concern arises,
because use of the term trannie is like painting a target on an individual.
It may not be the intention of the person using the term to be derisive,
but the term itself may unintentionally facilitate violence towards its target.

Since there is also little to be done about that, have taken up study of self-defense.
Already aware that when it comes down to the wire there are things that end up being faced alone.

Hold a similar view toward pronouns,
if someone is referring to me as he or she it does not concern me,
quite so much as my concern that they are talking about me,
rather than to me as a person.


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Re: The women's march is hella transphobic [Re: SARAtonin]
    #24035729 - 01/24/17 10:54 AM (7 years, 6 days ago)

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SARAtonin said:
This thread is dumb.
Stop looking for enemies where there are none.




I agree, Trump and straight white males aren't the enemy of Western culture, just think where the marchers would be without us. :cookiemonster:


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Re: The women's march is hella transphobic [Re: qman]
    #24035752 - 01/24/17 11:02 AM (7 years, 6 days ago)



are the J20 Retards still going at it?


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Re: The women's march is hella transphobic [Re: Kush_Zombie] * 1
    #24035759 - 01/24/17 11:06 AM (7 years, 6 days ago)

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The second sentence in this post makes me cringe so hard. Vaginas do belong to women and trannies are insecure freaks. Get over it.




I don't think they're freaks, but otherwise you're spot on, I totally agree. The march is largely about abortion rights, and by extension *actual* vaginas, not pretend vaginas. When trans people have actual functioning vaginas then yeah, by all means say your vagina matters too, but while it's just a flesh pocket it's really not the same. Trans people should have the same rights as everyone else, but for one group of people to say they should be treated as equal does not somehow detract from another group, that's naive and ignorant thinking. Go after the people that are actually causing the issues, not your neighbor who is upset at the same god damned thing you are.


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