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Re: The women's march is hella transphobic [Re: Prisoner#1]
#24029569 - 01/22/17 02:36 AM (7 years, 8 days ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said: I understand that completely, your own fears dont seem irrational to you while they may to many because those people dont have to slip into your skin every morning and while some may gawk at you because you make them feel uncomfortable which in turn makes you feel the same way, it doesnt mean they intend you any harm. calling these assholes transphobic is excusing their behavior as some kind of actual disorder when it's not. they're dickheads and that's all they are
now while most people that make you uncomfortable have no intention of doing you harm, there are still a few that may, I suggest buying a gun, getting a concealment permit and going through some training classes to learn to shoot and to deal with someone that does attempt to accost you
if a gun isnt an option, I suggest I knife, I'd send you one I have but I already know it's illegal in california, if I can locate my spiderco I'll sharpen it and send it and at the very least some OC spray with a dye in it. I really dont want to see you become a victim of the pricks in this world. like any weapon, learn the laws in your state and treat each just as if it were a gun
you need to live your life and be able to do so without fear
I'm definitely getting myself a gun sooner or later. Send me a when you find that spiderco, that's a really thoughtful offer.
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Re: The women's march is hella transphobic [Re: Cosmic_Flame]
#24029576 - 01/22/17 02:41 AM (7 years, 8 days ago) |
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Cosmic_Flame said: pris it aint that simple 
sophi just be like me and use your fear as fuel to grow your power aka dont be a kylo ren, be a maul instead
then we can rule this galaxy together muahaha

It makes a good motivation to work out actually. I'm in the best shape of my life right now, also discovering crazy psionic powers and telekinesis that I never knew I had
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Re: The women's march is hella transphobic [Re: Connoisseur] 1
#24029581 - 01/22/17 02:45 AM (7 years, 8 days ago) |
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Also I'd like to note the world is largely transphobic by default. I mean we got politicians legislating on who gets to pee where and others advocating for conversion therapy and then in some places trying to push bs like a doctor doesn't have to treat trans people if it goes against their beliefs. There was a famous case of an EMT not treating a woman because she was trans, guess what she died. Oh and trans people being targeted all over the world. Sophi is sayin that cisnorms is a big piece of this problem. Its not just about vaginas and dicks but more so the fact that people think that solely defines a person. A lot of those people are in high positions of power and are pushing their backwards ass views as facts. Much how like the bullshit rhetoric politicians from decades past used to use on the gay community. Same shit, diff day...
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Cosmic_Flame said: pris it aint that simple 
sophi just be like me and use your fear as fuel to grow your power aka dont be a kylo ren, be a maul instead
then we can rule this galaxy together muahaha

It makes a good motivation to work out actually. I'm in the best shape of my life right now, also discovering crazy psionic powers and telekinesis that I never knew I had 
Yes, yess feel the power. Soon enough you'll have the world in your hands. We gotta make our own paradise, know what I mean
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Re: The women's march is hella transphobic [Re: Cosmic_Flame] 1
#24029590 - 01/22/17 02:55 AM (7 years, 8 days ago) |
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those people you specifically mentioned are very backwards and imo fucked up individuals though and i do not believe they consitute the majority or a default in our society.
i think the reality is most people are unable to empathize or conceptualize the idea of being trans if they are not, just like how most people can not empathize or conceptualize what its like to be an opiate addict if they arent or never have been one. that doesnt mean they have a hatred or a predjudice against it though. 
its hard to expect people to do anything more than accept others for who they are without the need to understand truly what its like to be something they are not. people who try and infringe upon or trample the rights of others is an entirely unacceptable practice that i agree has gotten extremely out of control in our society and i will fight tooth and nail personally to prevent such things.
at the same time its blatantly apparent that transsexual people have more rights in society today than they have had in a very long time (possibly ever) since more of an organized effort is being put into bringing the topic to the forefront of society than ever before in human history, so from that vantage point i think tremendous progress has been made.
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Re: The women's march is hella transphobic [Re: Cosmic_Flame]
#24029606 - 01/22/17 03:19 AM (7 years, 8 days ago) |
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Cosmic_Flame said: Also I'd like to note the world is largely transphobic by default. I mean we got politicians legislating on who gets to pee where and others advocating for conversion therapy and then in some places trying to push bs like a doctor doesn't have to treat trans people if it goes against their beliefs. There was a famous case of an EMT not treating a woman because she was trans, guess what she died. Oh and trans people being targeted all over the world. Sophi is sayin that cisnorms is a big piece of this problem. Its not just about vaginas and dicks but more so the fact that people think that solely defines a person. A lot of those people are in high positions of power and are pushing their backwards ass views as facts. Much how like the bullshit rhetoric politicians from decades past used to use on the gay community. Same shit, diff day...
I believe in time trans will be as accepted as gays are now.
Just takes a lot of time for it to happen likely cause being trans perhaps looks more odd than being gay 
And likely the fact that its still so new.
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Re: The women's march is hella transphobic [Re: Cosmic_Flame]
#24029634 - 01/22/17 03:51 AM (7 years, 8 days ago) |
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Cosmic_Flame said: pris it aint that simple 
bullshit it is that simple
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Re: The women's march is hella transphobic [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 2
#24029652 - 01/22/17 04:26 AM (7 years, 8 days ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: I believe in time trans will be as accepted as gays are now.
gays are more accepted now than they were 50 years ago but they still arent completely accepted even among those that claim to support gay rights, they play the game because it wins them popularity among their peers
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Just takes a lot of time for it to happen likely cause being trans perhaps looks more odd than being gay 
it's odd because of the fact that many trans people have hidden it from everyone for much of their life and arent transitioning until later in life, they're waiting until their in their 40s and 50s which comes as a huge shock to people they know and because of this they're often ostracized. we're frequently told that these things are wrong, that being gay/trans/what ever is a mental illness or some other load of shit and we're taught this stuff from a young age in most of the world but some cultures accept it
I was shown a picture of someone and informed she was a thai ladyboy, I was asked my thoughts, I stated that she was quite beautiful and when pushed for my opinion I gave an honest opinion, that I believe that some people are born to the wrong body. it is really my belief, everything withing them tells them they're women/men but their physical characteristics are that of the wrong sex. the girl that showed me the pic said that it's the same answer her father gave her when she was young
in places like cambodia, thailand, viet nam and laos these trans look more normalized as women because they start transitioning at a much earlier age, some even as they start puberty, it's more accepted in these cultures so they arent looked down upon and they're treated as anyone else, a part of it is because of the dominant religion. most of southeast asia is buddhist but some countries such as the Philippines is roman catholic, while ladyboys exist and live fairly normal lives there there is a taboo about it. it's a part of why much of the world has some crazy hangups about allowing other people to live their own lives
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Re: The women's march is hella transphobic [Re: Prisoner#1]
#24029815 - 01/22/17 07:56 AM (7 years, 8 days ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said: I understand that completely, your own fears dont seem irrational to you while they may to many because those people dont have to slip into your skin every morning and while some may gawk at you because you make them feel uncomfortable which in turn makes you feel the same way, it doesnt mean they intend you any harm. calling these assholes transphobic is excusing their behavior as some kind of actual disorder when it's not. they're dickheads and that's all they are
now while most people that make you uncomfortable have no intention of doing you harm, there are still a few that may, I suggest buying a gun, getting a concealment permit and going through some training classes to learn to shoot and to deal with someone that does attempt to accost you
if a gun isnt an option, I suggest I knife, I'd send you one I have but I already know it's illegal in california, if I can locate my spiderco I'll sharpen it and send it and at the very least some OC spray with a dye in it. I really dont want to see you become a victim of the pricks in this world. like any weapon, learn the laws in your state and treat each just as if it were a gun
you need to live your life and be able to do so without fear
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Re: The women's march is hella transphobic [Re: Cosmic_Flame] 2
#24029817 - 01/22/17 07:59 AM (7 years, 8 days ago) |
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I don't want men in the bathroom while my girl is changing a diaper
Sorry, she feels the same way
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Re: The women's march is hella transphobic [Re: stzacrack] 1
#24029851 - 01/22/17 08:22 AM (7 years, 8 days ago) |
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stzacrack said: I don't want men in the bathroom while my girl is changing a diaper
Sorry, she feels the same way
so you'd rather have this person in the bathroom during that diaper change
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Re: The women's march is hella transphobic [Re: Prisoner#1] 1
#24029894 - 01/22/17 08:43 AM (7 years, 8 days ago) |
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Almost hit enter after typing an extremely politically incorrect/sarcastic response to your post
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Re: The women's march is hella transphobic [Re: stzacrack]
#24029921 - 01/22/17 08:56 AM (7 years, 8 days ago) |
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Have you guys seen the sea of weakness that crawled around all the major cities yesterday?
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Re: The women's march is hella transphobic [Re: Patlal] 1
#24029950 - 01/22/17 09:09 AM (7 years, 8 days ago) |
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i'm not transphobic i'm metaphobic
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Re: The women's march is hella transphobic [Re: Mad_Larkin] 1
#24029964 - 01/22/17 09:14 AM (7 years, 8 days ago) |
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I love watching the far left inner conflict between the feminists and the transgenders. Feminists can't stand the transies idea that womanhood is just a state of mind, as well they shouldnt.
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Re: The women's march is hella transphobic [Re: rudebuoy] 4
#24029992 - 01/22/17 09:23 AM (7 years, 8 days ago) |
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the transgender argument makes no sense. first they say that womanhood is just a state of mind, then they go to great lengths to change their physical body because they feel they couldn't be woman otherwise.
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Re: The women's march is hella transphobic [Re: mt cleverest]
#24029996 - 01/22/17 09:26 AM (7 years, 8 days ago) |
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Transgendered people are like 0.001% of the population. They don't need to be put on such a high pedestal. And also, when non transgendered people go in the street in their name, it's like telling transgendered people that they aren't strong enough to fight their own fight and that they need that we inject ourselves in their cause. Kinda like a group of pasty white kids fighting for black rights. Who the fuck are you to do this and why do you think they can't stand up for themselves?
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Sophistic Radiance said: The whole pussy obsession. As if all vaginas belong to women and as if all women have vaginas. That is total cisnormative stuff. This is the kind of thing that lost Hillary the election. Maybe if she spent the time running up to the election listening to us and promising to do better by us instead of jailing her dissenters, that .01% of the population or whatever could have tipped the balance. But no. For shame. Now we have a partially digested Cheeto for president and it's all because nobody fucking listens 
But what do the women without a pussy have to worry about Trump grabbing them by?
From what was shown over the course of the election, it did not seem like Hillary or her supporters were interested in increasing the base she appealed to, and instead simply expected everyone else to see the nobility of her cause and move to support her. Similar to how Bernie supporters were targeted as sexist over not falling in line to vote for her.
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Re: The women's march is hella transphobic [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#24030082 - 01/22/17 10:07 AM (7 years, 8 days ago) |
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Cosmic_Flame said: Also I'd like to note the world is largely transphobic by default. I mean we got politicians legislating on who gets to pee where and others advocating for conversion therapy and then in some places trying to push bs like a doctor doesn't have to treat trans people if it goes against their beliefs. There was a famous case of an EMT not treating a woman because she was trans, guess what she died. Oh and trans people being targeted all over the world. Sophi is sayin that cisnorms is a big piece of this problem. Its not just about vaginas and dicks but more so the fact that people think that solely defines a person. A lot of those people are in high positions of power and are pushing their backwards ass views as facts. Much how like the bullshit rhetoric politicians from decades past used to use on the gay community. Same shit, diff day...
I believe in time trans will be as accepted as gays are now.
Just takes a lot of time for it to happen likely cause being trans perhaps looks more odd than being gay 
And likely the fact that its still so new.
It's not actually new, that's the thing. Words like "transsexual" are new, but the actual people they describe have always been around. We were not invented by the medical industry. Transitioning was not invented by the medical industry. It's something that has always existed, but western institutions weren't permitted to study it until the 20th century, which is when they started making up words like "transsexual" and selling hormones in pills that we had previously been able to obtain from plant and animal sources. The surgery is new, but the surgery is not what makes a person trans.
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Re: The women's march is hella transphobic [Re: rudebuoy]
#24030102 - 01/22/17 10:15 AM (7 years, 8 days ago) |
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rudebuoy said: I love watching the far left inner conflict between the feminists and the transgenders. Feminists can't stand the transies idea that womanhood is just a state of mind, as well they shouldnt.
Most feminists aren't transphobic but the elite ivory tower feminists are hella transphobic. They are also completely insane. Their paranoia of trans people induces them to reconstitute and reinforce the gender roles they ostensibly resist, such as "women are essentially nurturing" and "men are essentially violent", in order to suggest that trans women should not be permitted in women's spaces because their penis automatically makes them a rapist.
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