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Gimmeweed
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ADHD, Autism medications and magic mushrooms
#24027799 - 01/21/17 10:17 AM (7 years, 9 days ago) |
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Hi there,
I am completely new to this forum so I apologise if I take ages to reply. The reason I signed up to this forum is to ask if anybody has any experience with trying magic mushrooms whilst on ADHD meds, anti-depressants and beta blockers. Basically, I have Asperger's Syndrome and ADHD and have been struggling with chronic anxiety and depression most of my life. For about 4 years now I have been on Zoloft which has been increased to 200mg very recently and Propanolol 40mg (half a tablet three times a day) for almost 2 years.
Not so long ago, I was diagnosed with ADHD (I was diagnosed with Asperger's 5 years prior) just after my 20th birthday and was put onto ADHD medication: to be more specific 36mg Xenidate which is a type of Ritalin medication. Now, let's cut to the chase, I really want to try magic mushrooms, preferably liberty caps, as I want to experience a psychedelic trip and reengage with my spiritual side. Has anybody had any magic mushrooms whilst on similar meds and if so was it a good or bad trip?
I am quite positive I can have a good trip through the power of my thoughts (e.g. I want to do them at home and on my own so I am in a safe and comfortable place) however I am unsure whether the psychedelic chemicals within the shrooms will affect my medication. Basically, I want to know if just trying magic mushrooms the once will have a bad affect on me mentally for the rest of my life or if it will permanently interfere with my meds. I recently turned down the chance to try acid as I heard it may interfere with meds however I have also heard magic mushroom trips aren't as intense as LSD; I smoke weed around once a month or once every few months and I absolutely love it and now I would like to try liberty caps.
Do you guys think it will be a good idea to try mushrooms just the once? If so, will it affect my mind and meds permanently or put me off smoking weed?
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Re: ADHD, Autism medications and magic mushrooms [Re: Gimmeweed]
#24028071 - 01/21/17 12:03 PM (7 years, 9 days ago) |
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Zoloft belongs to SSRI antidepressants. SSRI antidepressants lead to strong tolerance to LSD and magic mushrooms. If you take magic mushrooms, you are likely to experience very weak effects or no effects at all.
As far as I know, Ritalin is a stimulant and therefore may sometimes increase anxiety. But there is nothing really dangerous about taking Ritalin and magic mushrooms together.
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Re: ADHD, Autism medications and magic mushrooms [Re: kyu]
#24028118 - 01/21/17 12:26 PM (7 years, 9 days ago) |
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Hi, thanks for the reply.
I am able to mildly trip on good weed most of the time (i.e. sativa strains with more THC)to be fair. Would that be the same for the magic mushrooms? I mean, I understand what you're saying with Zoloft as I have read a few forums stating they may decrease the effects. It's just, I am able to feel the full affect of weed so do you reckon that increases my chances of feeling the affect from the shrooms?
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Re: ADHD, Autism medications and magic mushrooms [Re: Gimmeweed]
#24028158 - 01/21/17 12:48 PM (7 years, 9 days ago) |
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No you wont trip. Psychedelics are serotonin receptor agonists weed has a totally different method of action.
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Gimmeweed
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Re: ADHD, Autism medications and magic mushrooms [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#24028221 - 01/21/17 01:23 PM (7 years, 9 days ago) |
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Do you mean I won't trip on magic mushrooms?
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Re: ADHD, Autism medications and magic mushrooms [Re: Gimmeweed]
#24028265 - 01/21/17 01:51 PM (7 years, 9 days ago) |
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Yes or on any psychedelic. Maybe light effects but you likely wouldnt feel anything. There have been threads online where people took good sized doses and their friends tripped but they didnt trip at all and ask why and people ask if they are on an anti depressant they say yes.
Edited by BANANA.MAN (01/21/17 01:52 PM)
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Re: ADHD, Autism medications and magic mushrooms [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#24028311 - 01/21/17 02:08 PM (7 years, 9 days ago) |
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man you should cut out the pharmaceuticals drug cocktail, keep the ritalin script, take it every once in a while and sell what you don't use Then just start taking acid and shrooms i guarentee you'll have more fun
take my advice with a grain of salt, its your body, your descision
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Re: ADHD, Autism medications and magic mushrooms [Re: Gimmeweed]
#24028618 - 01/21/17 04:34 PM (7 years, 9 days ago) |
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Gimmeweed said: ....Basically, I have Asperger's Syndrome and ADHD and have been struggling with chronic anxiety and depression most of my life. For about 4 years now I have been on Zoloft which has been increased to 200mg very recently and Propanolol 40mg (half a tablet three times a day) for almost 2 years.
Has anybody had any magic mushrooms whilst on similar meds and if so was it a good or bad trip?
Have you noticed a drastic or any sort of change in your depression and anxiety since you've been on the meds? Does the ADHD med actually help you?...Do you experience any side effects from any of you meds? Why did they bump your zoloft dosage up recently? Do you plan on taking these meds for the rest of your life?
I too am on the "spectrum", aspergers, but right around the time meds were starting to be suggested to me or pushed my way (around the end of high school, late teens/early 20s) was right around the time I started to get interested in psychedelics. I took lexapro (SSRI) for a little while, and it lessened the depression in a way (kinda) but it also made me feel "dull"/emotionless so I stopped taking the stuff...
....and then (long story short) I started to dabble with psychedelics about once every month or two, and using plants like cannabis and kratom as my daily medicine, and now 10 years after working with psychedelics I totally feel like I've "fixed myself" in many ways. It wasn't over night and a lot of it also had to do with just growing up and having more years of life experience, but I give much credit to mushrooms, MDMA, and LSD to sorting me out and shaping me into the person I am today. Most that meet me these days will probably never suspect or think that I'm on the spectrum.
Anyway, to answer your question, no I haven't tripped while on meds. Like mentioned already in this thread though, the zoloft you take will likely dull down the trip drastically. SSRI type meds like zoloft work on the same receptors that mushrooms do. From what I understand about the meds you're taking, there shouldn't be any sort of detrimental/harmful/dangerous interaction between the meds and mushrooms, but the effects will likely be dulled down a lot to virtually nothing.
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I have also heard magic mushroom trips aren't as intense as LSD
Do you guys think it will be a good idea to try mushrooms just the once? If so, will it affect my mind and meds permanently or put me off smoking weed?
It totally depends on the dose but generally speaking I find LSD to be much more easier going than mushrooms (it last a lot longer, but it tends to be more predictable and smoother going), and most people around here will agree.
I actually find mushrooms to be the heaviest and potentially most "difficult" psychedelic out of the classics...but they also are the most therapeutic & healing psychedelic for me, and my favorite .
I don't at all think it's a "bad idea" to give mushrooms a try, but it doesn't make sense to me to try to trip while on such medications as you will likely barely feel much of anything...It also doesn't make sense to me to stop taking your medications for a little while just to trip, then start taking them again after the trip. My 2 cents, either stay on the meds, or get off them.
I'm personally glad I didn't fall into taking prescriptions, but no doubt there are some cases where they do help folks. If you feel they'e been beneficial to you, stay on em' . If you feel like they haven't brought much improvement to your life and you have a strong curiosity to trip, then taper off them.
(but I feel like trying to get off such meds after taking them for a year or two+ will only leave the person feeling even worse off than they were before they started taking them)
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Re: ADHD, Autism medications and magic mushrooms [Re: ergoticmandala]
#24032552 - 01/23/17 05:52 AM (7 years, 7 days ago) |
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Tbf, I was thinking of taking a lower dosage of my anti-depressants the night I do shrooms haha.
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Re: ADHD, Autism medications and magic mushrooms [Re: openmind]
#24032559 - 01/23/17 05:56 AM (7 years, 7 days ago) |
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Well tbh, my sertraline haven't been working as well as it used to even though I am on the highest dosage and I am hopefully changing my anti-depressant medication this week. It works to a point where I can just about do some of my daily tasks and go to work however if I had suddenly stopped taking them I would probably have no motivation at all and be a complete wreck haha.
I am looking forward to trying shrooms now anyway as it seems a lot of other users on this forum with similar issues than me and taking similar meds have tried them and they've had no negative effects.
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Re: ADHD, Autism medications and magic mushrooms [Re: Gimmeweed]
#24033326 - 01/23/17 01:54 PM (7 years, 7 days ago) |
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Gimmeweed said: Tbf, I was thinking of taking a lower dosage of my anti-depressants the night I do shrooms haha.
That also won't help. Tolerance is a lasting thing, you'd have to not take SSRIs at all for several weeks, and only then you could trip. But beware of abstinence syndrome if you decide to do that. The antidepressants dose should be decreased very slowly and carefully.
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Re: ADHD, Autism medications and magic mushrooms [Re: kyu]
#24033458 - 01/23/17 03:01 PM (7 years, 7 days ago) |
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kyu said:
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Gimmeweed said: Tbf, I was thinking of taking a lower dosage of my anti-depressants the night I do shrooms haha.
That also won't help. Tolerance is a lasting thing, you'd have to not take SSRIs at all for several weeks, and only then you could trip. But beware of abstinence syndrome if you decide to do that. The antidepressants dose should be decreased very slowly and carefully.
I was going to say the same....
....it's not as simple as just taking a lower dosage or even skipping your dose of meds for the day/night that you want to trip, you'll likely have to be off the meds for at least several weeks before the mushrooms can be fully effective.
And you'll likely have to taper down your meds rather than just stopping.
You very well might feel a little something if you take mushrooms while on those meds, but I doubt it'll give you anything close to the full potential of what they have to offer/show, don't think it'd be a full on trip....and if so, then what's the point .
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Re: ADHD, Autism medications and magic mushrooms [Re: kyu]
#24033463 - 01/23/17 03:02 PM (7 years, 7 days ago) |
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Just get off them if you want to trip. It probably wont help enough and it would still be a waste plus you might get withdrawl symptoms like brain zaps. Never had them but based on the name and reading a despcription online id say its safe to assume that you dont want those while tripping.
Edited by BANANA.MAN (01/23/17 03:03 PM)
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Re: ADHD, Autism medications and magic mushrooms [Re: multiporpoise]
#24035035 - 01/24/17 02:35 AM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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Now hold on. I would recommend trying mushrooms anyways, a nice big dose, like 3.5g, and see what happens. My girlfriend has been on anti-depressants for years and when she has like 2g she trips the fuck out and has an intense experience. These are drugs we're talking about. Everyone reacts differently, according to their specific biochemistry. What has been said here is true, that generally SSRIs reduce the effects of psychedelics, and also that SSRIs accumulate over weeks, so they also take weeks to get rid of.
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Re: ADHD, Autism medications and magic mushrooms [Re: Junior Fungus]
#24038760 - 01/25/17 02:04 PM (7 years, 5 days ago) |
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Hey, thanks for the replies guys. I should be trying some liberty caps this coming autumn so I am pretty chuffed about that. Thank you so much for all your help and advice. One more question: would it actually be safe for me to try acid without any long term mental health effects also? My friend bought some just recently and was wondering whether to have try them too.
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Re: ADHD, Autism medications and magic mushrooms [Re: multiporpoise]
#24040368 - 01/26/17 04:00 AM (7 years, 4 days ago) |
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Hi, cheers for the reply. Yeah, I believe the acid was already tested and whatnot. Oh yeah, I take 200mg as I have had quite severe depression for a while now so maybe the psychedelics will help me a little haha; smoking weed makes me feel a lot better although I tend to take 3-6 weeks tolerance breaks so the weed high "doesn't lose its magic" (if you know what I mean lol) and so I don't risk making my anxiety issues worse.
Edited by Gimmeweed (01/26/17 04:08 AM)
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Re: ADHD, Autism medications and magic mushrooms [Re: Gimmeweed]
#24040386 - 01/26/17 04:19 AM (7 years, 4 days ago) |
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I'm on Ritalin too and I would encourage you to abstain from Xenidate for 2 days before tripping. It's never been a good combo for me. And as a first timer don't smoke weed while on a trip.
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