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OfflinePatlal
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Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... * 2
    #24027731 - 01/21/17 09:45 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

Dude has a crowd and he has a surprising amount of charisma. He's firing up people. I find this very interesting. He's energizing a lot of people and his Facebook numbers are impressive. This guy is getting serious traction. He's encouraging young people to run for any office they want.

Of course they're preaching their ideals and ressurecting Hitler in contrast to Trump. But it's all good. THey're using all the key words. Racism, sexism, Hitler, trans gendered, feminism etc. You know, their own thing. But it's adefinitely a movement. They're doing what Trump did but in their own way.

I wonder how far this will reach in 4 years.

Socialism is gonna make a serious push. Don't underestimate this.


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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #24027736 - 01/21/17 09:47 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

Michael Moore, haven't heard that name in a while.


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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: Lucis]
    #24027738 - 01/21/17 09:48 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

Alright. They officially officially lost their minds and talking about bleeding pussy. But I do agree with one thing. Tampons and female hygiene products should not be taxed. Just last year we did that up here. It got good PR.


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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: Patlal]
    #24027763 - 01/21/17 09:59 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

There are pussy hats all over the place


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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: Patlal] * 2
    #24027776 - 01/21/17 10:05 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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Tampons and female hygiene products should not be taxed. Just last year we did that up here. It got good PR.




Is that your political platform?


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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: Crazy_Horse] * 2
    #24027798 - 01/21/17 10:17 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

A vote for patlal is a vote for cheap tampons


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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: Crazy_Horse]
    #24027841 - 01/21/17 10:41 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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Patlal said:
Tampons and female hygiene products should not be taxed. Just last year we did that up here. It got good PR.




Is that your political platform?




No it's called common sense. Taxing things they can't live wiht is immoral. Up here we don't tax these things. Veggies, meat, and healthy foods are all tax free. Books are only taxed by the province, not the federal government. Agricultural products, day care, livestock, prescription drugs, legal aide, rent, financial services, bridge and ferry tolls, hearing aids, dentures and gambling winnings are all tax free.

Anything that is common sense unavoidable for some people is tax free. Rule of thumb is, if you can't live without it, it's tax free. Gambling winnings are tax free because you gamble with after tax dollars therefore you win after tax dollars.


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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: Patlal]
    #24027849 - 01/21/17 10:44 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

Gambling winnngs are tax free?


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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: koods]
    #24027851 - 01/21/17 10:45 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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Gambling winnngs are tax free?




Yup. You buy a lotto ticket and win 50 million. You get 50 million in the bank. If you gift 1 million to your mom, there is tax. So you go to an accountant before cashing in and you put the percetages you want to be given out to anyone you like as if they purchased part of the ticket with you and then you go to the loto office and everybody gets their share tax free.


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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: Patlal]
    #24027905 - 01/21/17 11:02 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

The women's march crowd is bigger than the inauguration crowd


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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: koods]
    #24027913 - 01/21/17 11:03 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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The women's march crowd is bigger than the inauguration crowd




Yeah, it's everywhere too. Pretty impressive.


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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #24027923 - 01/21/17 11:06 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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Patlal said:
Tampons and female hygiene products should not be taxed.



Why? Razors are taxed, as is male deodorant. I get that I'm not bleeding or anything, but if we're not taxing tampons because women need them we shouldn't tax anything but TVs and McDonalds.


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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: koods]
    #24027925 - 01/21/17 11:06 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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The women's march crowd is bigger than the inauguration crowd





great, the streets will run red with blood


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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: PatrickKn]
    #24027929 - 01/21/17 11:07 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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Tampons and female hygiene products should not be taxed.



Why? Razors are taxed, as is male deodorant.





I want my equal rights


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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: PatrickKn] * 1
    #24027934 - 01/21/17 11:07 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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Tampons and female hygiene products should not be taxed.



Why? Razors are taxed, as is male deodorant.




You can live a normal life without both


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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: Patlal]
    #24027938 - 01/21/17 11:08 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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Tampons and female hygiene products should not be taxed.



Why? Razors are taxed, as is male deodorant.




You can live a normal life without both



I demand we stop taxing toilet paper.


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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: Patlal] * 4
    #24027940 - 01/21/17 11:09 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

Theres a reason Canada can skimp on taxes, it freeloads all of its military expenses off allies

While the US spends trillions to keep the Western world afloat, Canada is cutting taxes on tampons and maple syrup


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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #24027942 - 01/21/17 11:09 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party....




the only thing he's firing up is the stove to cook himself another infant souffle


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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: PatrickKn]
    #24027943 - 01/21/17 11:09 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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Patlal said:
Tampons and female hygiene products should not be taxed.



Why? Razors are taxed, as is male deodorant.




You can live a normal life without both



I demand we stop taxing toilet paper.




That would be extremely smart.


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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: Patlal]
    #24027944 - 01/21/17 11:10 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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I demand we stop taxing toilet paper.




That would be extremely smart.




you know the 3 shells industry will shit all over that idea


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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: Patlal]
    #24027949 - 01/21/17 11:11 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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Gambling winnngs are tax free?




Yup. You buy a lotto ticket and win 50 million. You get 50 million in the bank. If you gift 1 million to your mom, there is tax. So you go to an accountant before cashing in and you put the percetages you want to be given out to anyone you like as if they purchased part of the ticket with you and then you go to the loto office and everybody gets their share tax free.




Everybody in Canada should share your winnings. Go socialism!


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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: Repertoire89] * 1
    #24027981 - 01/21/17 11:20 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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Theres a reason Canada can skimp on taxes, it freeloads all of its military expenses off allies

While the US spends trillions to keep the Western world afloat, Canada is cutting taxes on tampons and maple syrup



you should also try cutting cumbersome tax codes....

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Everybody in Canada should share your winnings. Go socialism!




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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: akira_akuma]
    #24027988 - 01/21/17 11:25 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

Michael Moore was adamant that Trump would win the election.


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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: SoloTrip]
    #24028017 - 01/21/17 11:37 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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Michael Moore was adamant that Trump would win the election.





he sounds very angry that the blow family has the right to vote


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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #24028021 - 01/21/17 11:38 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

That's odd. I don't know the whole family, but Joe's a pretty good dude.


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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: PatrickKn] * 3
    #24028029 - 01/21/17 11:41 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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That's odd. I don't know the whole family, but Joe's a pretty good dude.





Joe Blow runs around with Jack Schitt, that should tell you all you need to know
about Joe Blow, and if it doesnt then you clearly dont know Jack Schitt


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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #24028038 - 01/21/17 11:46 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

I don't know Jack Schitt. Is he related to a guy named Toro Schitt by chance?


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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: PatrickKn]
    #24028154 - 01/21/17 12:47 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

The march has been cancelled because the crowd is too large


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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: Patlal]
    #24028168 - 01/21/17 12:51 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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Socialism is gonna make a serious push. Don't underestimate this.



I agree/hope, but the left seems more disorganised right now.


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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: koods]
    #24028169 - 01/21/17 12:52 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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The march has been cancelled because the crowd is too large




Where?


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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: PatrickKn]
    #24028177 - 01/21/17 12:56 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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I don't know Jack Schitt. Is he related to a guy named Toro Schitt by chance?





yes, Toro is a cousin from the spanish colony in germany




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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: koods]
    #24028181 - 01/21/17 12:57 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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The march has been cancelled because the crowd is too large





Yuge koods, the crowd was Yuge


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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: Patlal]
    #24028182 - 01/21/17 12:58 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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The march has been cancelled because the crowd is too large




Where?





the march to the bathroom so they can cry in their safe space where their parents wont make fun of them


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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #24028219 - 01/21/17 01:22 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

Caught a little of Madonna earlier rallying the crowd -- she said that "we're all about love", and then 60 seconds later said "to all our detractors...fuck you" :rofl:

Pretty much the left in a nutshell, they're all about love and understanding...until somebody disagrees with them. Then it's "fuck you" and tossing trashcans through store front windows


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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: Niffla]
    #24028228 - 01/21/17 01:27 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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Caught a little of Madonna earlier rallying the crowd -- she said that "we're all about love", and then 60 seconds later said "to all our detractors...fuck you" :rofl:

Pretty much the left in a nutshell, they're all about love and understanding...until somebody disagrees with them. Then it's "fuck you" and tossing trashcans through store front windows



They meant 'fuck you' in the literal sense, which is all about love.


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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: PatrickKn]
    #24028235 - 01/21/17 01:30 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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Caught a little of Madonna earlier rallying the crowd -- she said that "we're all about love", and then 60 seconds later said "to all our detractors...fuck you" :rofl:

Pretty much the left in a nutshell, they're all about love and understanding...until somebody disagrees with them. Then it's "fuck you" and tossing trashcans through store front windows



They meant 'fuck you' in the literal sense, which is all about love.




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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: Patlal]
    #24028237 - 01/21/17 01:32 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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The march has been cancelled because the crowd is too large




Where?



In DC. The entire march route is packed with people, and they couldn't clear it to get people to start moving


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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: koods]
    #24028260 - 01/21/17 01:48 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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koods said:
The march has been cancelled because the crowd is too large




Where?



In DC. The entire march route is packed with people, and they couldn't clear it to get people to start moving




All the more power to them. Go wiminz.


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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: Patlal]
    #24028290 - 01/21/17 02:00 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

It's impressive. Protests and marches never live up to the hype, but this ended up way bigger than predicted.

The local news is telling people to stay in the city as long as possible because the subway system is overwhelmed.



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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: koods]
    #24028342 - 01/21/17 02:26 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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It's impressive. Protests and marches never live up to the hype, but this ended up way bigger than predicted.

The local news is telling people to stay in the city as long as possible because the subway system is overwhelmed.






Ya. Traffic nightmare.


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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: Patlal]
    #24028374 - 01/21/17 02:46 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

So now the democrats hate themselves?


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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: Crazy_Horse]
    #24028380 - 01/21/17 02:48 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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So now the democrats hate themselves?




Yes and they really should. They destroyed themselves by pushing Sanders out for Hillary and Obama has left the building. Nobody is in charge and there are too many factions within the party. Kinda like what the Republicans were before Trump decided to be the gravitational center of the party.

I'm ready to say that any charismatic heavy hitter that decides to go for the leadership of the Democratc party will take it just like Trump took the Republicans. If Leo DiCaprio went for it. He'd get it. If Michael Moore went for it, he'd get it. Any life long Democrat with enough notoriety could literally take the regn of that party with minimal effort. This is a golden opportunity for anyone from any circle of life to go and take it. Everybody is walking in a different direction. There's no driver anymore. Justin Trudeau could be named leader of the Democratic party if he went for it right now. The supporters all lit a fire under there own asses (too late though. That's what Hillary didn't manage to do and a Trump victory ignited). It'll take someone with solid charisma to take control and it could be anybody that wants to.


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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: Patlal]
    #24028396 - 01/21/17 02:55 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

Loving the live coverage of the protests

Lmao these dorks need to step up their chant game, their chants are corny as fuck :lol:


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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: Patlal]
    #24028400 - 01/21/17 02:56 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

The choice of hillary or trump was pretty sad. I could bring myself to vote at all. I have only voted once and that was a just say no to obama vote.


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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: Niffla]
    #24029149 - 01/21/17 09:06 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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Caught a little of Madonna earlier rallying the crowd -- she said that "we're all about love", and then 60 seconds later said "to all our detractors...fuck you" :rofl:

Pretty much the left in a nutshell, they're all about love and understanding...until somebody disagrees with them. Then it's "fuck you" and tossing trashcans through store front windows





she also said they need to burn the white house down with trump in it

I hope she gets a visit from the secret service, because you know, love and shit


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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #24029750 - 01/22/17 06:41 AM (7 years, 8 days ago)

I cant stand Madonna, she should be put to death already.


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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: Tipote]
    #24029754 - 01/22/17 06:46 AM (7 years, 8 days ago)

Presidents like Trump and Obama will always create a strong backlash movement reaction.  Obama ramming health care through started the Tea Party (GWB's failure helped too) and I have no doubt at all that Trump will create a strong counter movement too.   

Trump will be a one-termer.  No doubt about it.  I can't imagine he would want more than 4 years, anyway, given how he'll be hammered day after day.


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    #24030036 - 01/22/17 09:47 AM (7 years, 8 days ago)

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    #24030337 - 01/22/17 12:00 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

lol sew much satire up in dis thread

The Women's March was amazing and awe inspiring! Glad yall agree :awesome:

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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: Tipote]
    #24030342 - 01/22/17 12:02 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

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I cant stand Madonna, she should be put to death already.





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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #24030347 - 01/22/17 12:05 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

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Trump will be a one-termer.






hey, you remember that time when everyone said that trump would never get the
presidential nomination and then when he got it they were all like "no way
he wins the election" and then he did that too...


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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #24030356 - 01/22/17 12:07 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

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KauaiOrca said:
Trump will be a one-termer.




hey, you remember that time when everyone said that trump would never get the
presidential nomination and then when he got it they were all like "no way
he wins the election" and then he did that too...




I sure WAS NOT one of the people that thought he was going to lose the nomination.  The GOP has been furious for 4 years now.

He went up against the weakest candidate in history, IMHO ... That's not going to happen in 2020. 

He may not even finish the term.  The ethics investigations by the press will be relentless.


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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #24030368 - 01/22/17 12:11 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
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KauaiOrca said:
Trump will be a one-termer.




hey, you remember that time when everyone said that trump would never get the
presidential nomination and then when he got it they were all like "no way
he wins the election" and then he did that too...




I sure WAS NOT one of the people that thought he was going to lose the nomination.  The GOP has been furious for 4 years now.





and you somehow think that the GOP wanted trump? they were pushing bush

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He went up against the weakest candidate in history, IMHO ... That's not going to happen in 2020. 




hillary was the weakest candidate in history?

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He may not even finish the term.  The ethics investigations by the press will be relentless.





lol. you're banking on an ethics investigation. that's funny shit


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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #24030385 - 01/22/17 12:19 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

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KauaiOrca said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
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KauaiOrca said:
Trump will be a one-termer.




hey, you remember that time when everyone said that trump would never get the
presidential nomination and then when he got it they were all like "no way
he wins the election" and then he did that too...




I sure WAS NOT one of the people that thought he was going to lose the nomination.  The GOP has been furious for 4 years now.





and you somehow think that the GOP wanted trump? they were pushing bush

Quote:

He went up against the weakest candidate in history, IMHO ... That's not going to happen in 2020. 




hillary was the weakest candidate in history?

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He may not even finish the term.  The ethics investigations by the press will be relentless.





lol. you're banking on an ethics investigation. that's funny shit




I meant GOP voters ... not the WDC establishment.

Yes, Hillary was the weakest.  Blew huge leads against Obama and Trump.  Tin ear on the voter.  Terrible speaker.  Hates campaigning.  Terrible inner circle.  The pins were set and she rolls gutter balls.

Wikileaks an hacking cuts both ways.  They'll get his tax returns ... Lawsuits ... conflicts of interest ...  It's going to happen.


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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #24030404 - 01/22/17 12:28 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

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I meant GOP voters ... not the WDC establishment.




they didnt want trump either


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Yes, Hillary was the weakest.  Blew huge leads against Obama and Trump.  Tin ear on the voter.  Terrible speaker.  Hates campaigning.  Terrible inner circle.  The pins were set and she rolls gutter balls.




the polls says she maintained the leads on trump even with all the 'russian
hacking' that was going on, even on election night the media was telling
people that she'd take the white house. the media backed her, obama backed her,
celebrities backed her and even bernie backed her as he was picking out drapes
for his new vacation home. even snopes shilled for hillary. they always shill for
the democrat... of course if hillary was the weakest candidate, who was the
strongest?

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Wikileaks an hacking cuts both ways.  They'll get his tax returns ... Lawsuits ... conflicts of interest ...  It's going to happen.




I thought wikileaks was all about praising trump since they exposed the democrats for lying, bigoted shitheads.


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    #24030409 - 01/22/17 12:31 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

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KauaiOrca said:
I meant GOP voters ... not the WDC establishment.




they didnt want trump either


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Yes, Hillary was the weakest.  Blew huge leads against Obama and Trump.  Tin ear on the voter.  Terrible speaker.  Hates campaigning.  Terrible inner circle.  The pins were set and she rolls gutter balls.




the polls says she maintained the leads on trump even with all the 'russian
hacking' that was going on, even on election night the media was telling
people that she'd take the white house. the media backed her, obama backed her,
celebrities backed her and even bernie backed her as he was picking out drapes
for his new vacation home. even snopes shilled for hillary. they always shill for
the democrat... of course if hillary was the weakest candidate, who was the
strongest?

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Wikileaks an hacking cuts both ways.  They'll get his tax returns ... Lawsuits ... conflicts of interest ...  It's going to happen.




I thought wikileaks was all about praising trump since they exposed the democrats for lying, bigoted shitheads.




She should have CRUSHED Trump but she had never ending legal problems, couldn't give a straight answer on her email system, was obviously involved in pay for play with the foundation ... that's what allowed Trump to hang in there when she should have beat him to 10-15 points.

Wikileaks will pound Trump.  You can bet on it.


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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #24030427 - 01/22/17 12:40 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

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Wikileaks will pound Trump.  You can bet on it.




Assange might be extradited to the US I thought.

But yes, I imagine there will be a whole ton of leaks and whistleblowers regardless of the attempts to prevent it.

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I cant stand Madonna, she should be put to death already.




if you voted for hillary she owes you a blowjob




I didn't but even if I did, I wouldnt want one from any of them.


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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #24031174 - 01/22/17 05:07 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

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She should have CRUSHED Trump but she had never ending legal problems,





any excuse was better than no excuse I guess, she didnt have any legal problems

hillary refused to answer questions and they cant force her to testify against
herself, the FBI and the senate subcommittee gave her fucking staff a free pass
not to show up and testify even though the staff was granted immunity and the head
of the justice department was having a convenient conversation secretly where they
just happened to be crossing paths at some random airport where bill never left
the plane but lynch knew where to find him to have a discussion about grand kids

really? they met secretly days before hillary's senate hearing and only talked
grandkids, let's hear those tapes, oh right. a couple of the most powerful people
in the world that are constantly tracked by reporters was only seen by a single
reporter that particular day

Now trump on the other hand had women paid by the hillary came to claim all kinds
of rape charges, sexual assault and even pedophilia and that doesnt include the
multitudes of lawsuits he was facing and you somehow think the most powerful woman
in the world had legal troubles



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couldn't give a straight answer on her email system





there's a difference in couldnt and wouldnt, she wouldnt give straight answer on
anything, she never has but liberals loved her, she was the goddess



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was obviously involved in pay for play with the foundation




oh, so liberals finally want to acknowledge that she was dirty as fuck after she
lost the election to someone that openly stated that he had been involved in
paying off government officials in the past. imagine that, being honest actually
landed a man in the white house

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Wikileaks will pound Trump.  You can bet on it.





wikileaks has to find shit on him first, they seem to be the only legit news
source around, no one has proved their claims wrong yet so you can believe if they
find dirt on the donald it will be real dirt, maybe he has some outstanding
parking ticket. it seems no one in the media actually found anything worthwhile,
they didnt bother looking in hillary's case. they defended her dirtiness


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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: Tipote]
    #24031187 - 01/22/17 05:11 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

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Tipote said:
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KauaiOrca said:

Wikileaks will pound Trump.  You can bet on it.




Assange might be extradited to the US I thought.




assange didnt actually commit a crime, he published what was presented to him whit
is a first amendment guarantee, he's seen how obama plays and didnt want to end up
as a political prisoner waiting for them to concoct a way to charge him, kinda
like people dont get arrested for exercising free speech but cqan be charged with
breach of peace because their speech is inflammatory and offended someone

But yes, I imagine there will be a whole ton of leaks and whistleblowers regardless of the attempts to prevent it.

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Tipote said:
I cant stand Madonna, she should be put to death already.




if you voted for hillary she owes you a blowjob




I didn't but even if I did, I wouldnt want one from any of them.





she was just joking, kinda like Tater Schumer was joking about leaving the US if trump gets elected


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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #24031196 - 01/22/17 05:14 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

Tipote said:
Quote:

KauaiOrca said:

Wikileaks will pound Trump.  You can bet on it.




Assange might be extradited to the US I thought.




assange didnt actually commit a crime, he published what was presented to him whit
is a first amendment guarantee, he's seen how obama plays and didnt want to end up
as a political prisoner waiting for them to concoct a way to charge him, kinda
like people dont get arrested for exercising free speech but cqan be charged with
breach of peace because their speech is inflammatory and offended someone

But yes, I imagine there will be a whole ton of leaks and whistleblowers regardless of the attempts to prevent it.

Quote:

Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

Tipote said:
I cant stand Madonna, she should be put to death already.




if you voted for hillary she owes you a blowjob




I didn't but even if I did, I wouldnt want one from any of them.





she was just joking, kinda like Tater Schumer was joking about leaving the US if trump gets elected




Intelligence people would go NUTS if Assange was allowed to come here and not be prosecuted.  I don' t think he'll ever set foot on American soil again.  I'm frankly surprised he's still alive.


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    #24031205 - 01/22/17 05:17 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

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  I'm frankly surprised he's still alive.





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    #24031206 - 01/22/17 05:18 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

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  I'm frankly surprised he's still alive.





no shit but clearly the clinton's reach has been reeled in or he would be




Or, he's a very useful mascot for a group that likes to manipulate the visible big shots.


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    #24031210 - 01/22/17 05:20 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

there are people with integrity, read up on Phil Zimmerman/PGP


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    #24031221 - 01/22/17 05:23 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

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there are people with integrity, read up on Phil Zimmerman/PGP




An operation like wikileaks has some kind of uber level sponsorship.  There are people that protect that operation that are not visible to the voting public.


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    #24031261 - 01/22/17 05:36 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

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he'll be hammered day after day.




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The ethics investigations by the press will be relentless.




Dude they've been relentlessly on him since day 1. And looking back, if anything the "relentless press" helped pave the way for his election victory.


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KauaiOrca said:
he'll be hammered day after day.




Quote:

KauaiOrca said:
The ethics investigations by the press will be relentless.




Dude they've been relentlessly on him since day 1. And looking back, if anything the "relentless press" helped pave the way for his election victory.




What works for your base doesn't work the same way when you're President. 

He's got more conflict of interest issues with his businesses and my guess is he'll continue to keep his fingers in it and advise  his kids  on how to run his company .... thinking he can get get away with it. 

We'll see but I predict he'll hate being President and dealing with the slow gears of government and all the people that can get in his way he has no power to fire.  BTW, I'm not a Trump hater ... I really hope he can get stuff done and make some progress.  I just think it's unlikely.


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    #24031299 - 01/22/17 05:46 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

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KauaiOrca said:
he'll be hammered day after day.




Quote:

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The ethics investigations by the press will be relentless.




Dude they've been relentlessly on him since day 1. And looking back, if anything the "relentless press" helped pave the way for his election victory.





I think you mean that they're paving the way for his second term


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We'll see but I predict he'll hate being President and dealing with the slow gears of government and all the people that can get in his way he has no power to fire.




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    #24031343 - 01/22/17 05:57 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

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Niffla said:
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KauaiOrca said:
he'll be hammered day after day.




Quote:

KauaiOrca said:
The ethics investigations by the press will be relentless.




Dude they've been relentlessly on him since day 1. And looking back, if anything the "relentless press" helped pave the way for his election victory.






He's got more conflict of interest issues with his businesses.... thinking he can get get away with it. 






Thats an outright fabrication. He has zero conflicts of interests because the president is legally exempt from such a situation.

Next MSM talking point please.


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    #24031356 - 01/22/17 06:00 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

The guy that makes shitty documentaries? Well sure apparently we'll vote for anyone for president. Someone with no experience in anything political. If we're just going off that I say Brad Pitt or Robert Downey Jr. 2020.


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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: Enjoywho]
    #24031420 - 01/22/17 06:21 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

Oh shit, what's up Bodhi, been a while.


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    #24031430 - 01/22/17 06:26 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

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Thats an outright fabrication. He has zero conflicts of interests because the president is legally exempt from such a situation.

Next MSM talking point please.




I don't know what the talking points are because I don't watch liberal media

What's legal isn't always what's politically defensible. 

Trump believes he's exempt from traditions that make good ethical sense like releasing tax returns and establishing blind trusts for investments.  He flat out lied about his tax returns.

This stuff will catch up with him.


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    #24031436 - 01/22/17 06:28 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

Agreed, there is no reason for him not to release them at this point. Reminds me of a certain president and his birth certificate. Something Trump railed against and arguably benefited from enormously.


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    #24031444 - 01/22/17 06:32 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

Trump's essentially a con man with some decent executive chops as it applies to developing commercial real estate and marketing/branding.

He beat an incredibly weak candidate with serious legal problems and created more very motivated enemies than any President in recent history. 

I hope he generates some good results fast ... I really do.  Because if he doesn't, they'll tear him apart.


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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: PatrickKn]
    #24031445 - 01/22/17 06:32 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

Oh shit, its patrickkn! :datass:

It has been quite awhile eh. Ive been busy coming up with plans for world domination and what not while I was away.

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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #24031459 - 01/22/17 06:36 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

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Oh shit, its patrickkn! :datass:

It has been quite awhile eh. Ive been busy coming up with plans for world domination and what not while I was away.

Admittedly I kind of missed shitposting with degenerates.




He's back!  How is Canada dealing with the Trump results?  Koods isn't dealing very well these days. :lol:


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    #24031460 - 01/22/17 06:36 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

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Trump's essentially a con man with some decent executive chops as it applies to developing commercial real estate and marketing/branding.

He beat an incredibly weak candidate with serious legal problems and created more very motivated enemies than any President in recent history. 

I hope he generates some good results fast ... I really do.  Because if he doesn't, they'll tear him apart.




No it is defensible because legally nothing can be done about it, and I dont see what youre trying to prove by bringing it up because its a non issue.  That context of its apparent "criminality" doesnt exist. Sorry, try again


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    #24031473 - 01/22/17 06:41 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

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Agreed, there is no reason for him not to release them at this point. Reminds me of a certain president and his birth certificate. Something Trump railed against and arguably benefited from enormously.




My tax returns are super bland but I would be fucking offended if someone asked for mine. That's like don't ask someone what they get paid or what there checks are. I would tell you to fuck off.

Incredibly personal information. I don't think being president makes your life open to the public. I'd let them complain for 4 years. As Obama should have done but let dumb assery win.

I've had to give my US citizenship papers for shit jobs. For a president I'm sure they're is a lot more to fill out.


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    #24031476 - 01/22/17 06:42 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

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Oh shit, its patrickkn! :datass:

It has been quite awhile eh. Ive been busy coming up with plans for world domination and what not while I was away.

Admittedly I kind of missed shitposting with degenerates.




He's back!  How is Canada dealing with the Trump results?  Koods isn't dealing very well these days. :lol:




Qman!  Not too well but its not a huge deal over here since we're Canadian. Theres some groveling here and there but other then that nobody cares, definitely no Koods scale upsets :lol:


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    #24031519 - 01/22/17 06:55 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

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He beat an incredibly weak candidate with serious legal problems and created more very motivated enemies than any President in recent history.





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    #24031524 - 01/22/17 06:56 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

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Trump believes he's exempt from traditions that make good ethical sense like releasing tax returns and establishing blind trusts for investments.  He flat out lied about his tax returns.





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    #24031526 - 01/22/17 06:56 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

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Agreed, there is no reason for him not to release them at this point. Reminds me of a certain president and his birth certificate. Something Trump railed against and arguably benefited from enormously.




My tax returns are super bland but I would be fucking offended if someone asked for mine. That's like don't ask someone what they get paid or what there checks are. I would tell you to fuck off.

Incredibly personal information. I don't think being president makes your life open to the public. I'd let them complain for 4 years. As Obama should have done but let dumb assery win.

I've had to give my US citizenship papers for shit jobs. For a president I'm sure they're is a lot more to fill out.




Democracy works better with transparency.

Like I said, Trump's essentially a con man with some strong real estate development skills.

In his books he bragged endlessly about how he essentially conned and misled his investors and got away with it.  Having said that, he took out the Bushes and Clintons pretty much single handedly and for that, I'd put him on Rushmore.


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    #24031529 - 01/22/17 06:58 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

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Trump believes he's exempt from traditions that make good ethical sense like releasing tax returns and establishing blind trusts for investments.  He flat out lied about his tax returns.





if he released his tax returns, just what are they going to tell us?




Most likely that he's been lying for a long time about his charitable giving, that he has a lot more debt than he lets on and, that he hasn't paid much federal income tax at all.

Nothing illegal, just embarrassing I suspect.


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    #24031534 - 01/22/17 07:00 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

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Democracy works better with transparency.




like the obama administration transparency?



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    #24031539 - 01/22/17 07:01 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

Its not required. Hes under no obligation to release them and you have no business asking for them.  Its not part of your set of of rights, nor is there any sort of law stating he has to.

Next MSM talking point please.


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    #24031542 - 01/22/17 07:01 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

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Trump believes he's exempt from traditions that make good ethical sense like releasing tax returns and establishing blind trusts for investments.  He flat out lied about his tax returns.





if he released his tax returns, just what are they going to tell us?



That he's not a hypocritical asshole? The double standard of Obama's birth certificate and Trump's taxes is a pretty big one. Until he releases them, all we could possibly ask is, "what has he got to hide?"

Because the American people would really like to know. :stoned:

It's a silly question Pris, how would we know unless he released them? His unwillingness to release them says something. Once he releases falsified documents like any president hiding shit would, everyone should be satisfied though, no?


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    #24031545 - 01/22/17 07:02 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

We aren't a democracy we are a Republic. At state level sure democracy. I think the majority of people didn't pay attention in high school government class.

We are not a democracy.


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    #24031548 - 01/22/17 07:03 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

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Hes under no obligation to release them and you have no business asking for them.



Nonsense, he holds the highest public office in the United States, and is answerable to the people. People have a right to know if his money appears clean to the IRS.


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    #24031557 - 01/22/17 07:05 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

Youre making up some fake narrative where up is down and down is up.  There is no law stating that and he has no obligation to release them. Next.


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Youre making up some fake narrative where up is down and down is up.  There is no law stating that and he has no obligation to release them. Next.



I haven't made up any narrative that I could tell. Lay it out for me where I did if you'd be so kind.

I never stated there was a legal obligation either, are you sure I'm the one making the narrative, or are you?


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    #24031580 - 01/22/17 07:11 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

Youre the one acting like its an issue when there is literally no conflict of anything with him not releasing them.  Its his choice and you need to respect that.


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Youre the one acting like its an issue when there is literally no conflict of anything with him not releasing them.  Its his choice and you need to respect that.



It's a conflict with his own promises made during his campaign.

It's a conflict with the narrative he and his supporters presented with their distaste in the current previous president.

It's a clear double standard of partisan hacks forgiving their sides misgivings while acting like the other side doing it is tantamount to treason.





^But I guess it's okay if Trump does it, even if Trump rallied against these kind of practices for years.


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Democracy works better with transparency.




like the obama administration transparency?






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We aren't a democracy we are a Republic. At state level sure democracy. I think the majority of people didn't pay attention in high school government class.

We are not a democracy.




I didn't say we ARE a democracy.  What I said is democracy, as a principle of government, works better with transparency.  And certainly, our Republic utilizes a lot of democracy oriented principles ... like voting for instance, for a peaceful transfer of power.


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    #24031611 - 01/22/17 07:19 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

Well if you can come up with something more substantial then not releasing his tax returns you might get some traction with his supporters but for everyone who voted him in that really isnt an issue to him and Id reckon its not an issue for the vasy majority either.  Come to think of it I dont even know why its such a big issue with you.  Its kind of curious that youre putting so much weight on knowing how much he made last year.  Surely theres bigger things for you to be upset about. Maybe a real issue of some sort.


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    #24031616 - 01/22/17 07:21 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

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Hes under no obligation to release them and you have no business asking for them.



Nonsense, he holds the highest public office in the United States, and is answerable to the people. People have a right to know if his money appears clean to the IRS.




Are you suggesting the IRS isn't going its job?  If his money wasn't "clean", that's an issue for the IRS.


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    #24031618 - 01/22/17 07:23 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

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Trump believes he's exempt from traditions that make good ethical sense like releasing tax returns and establishing blind trusts for investments.  He flat out lied about his tax returns.





if he released his tax returns, just what are they going to tell us?



That he's not a hypocritical asshole? The double standard of Obama's birth certificate and Trump's taxes is a pretty big one. Until he releases them, all we could possibly ask is, "what has he got to hide?"

Because the American people would really like to know. :stoned:

It's a silly question Pris, how would we know unless he released them? His unwillingness to release them says something. Once he releases falsified documents like any president hiding shit would, everyone should be satisfied though, no?





what's it gonna say, he makes more or less than he claims, he pays more or less
than one would expect, he gives more or less in charitable donation but let's say
he decided to release those tax returns and he earns exactly what he claimed, his
gives what he said he did and he pays a reasonable amount in taxes, will the
dumbasses that are calling him hitler stop calling him hitler, will they suddenly
jump on the trump train? will racheal madcow choke on a used tampon? will TYT
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    #24031629 - 01/22/17 07:26 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

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Youre the one acting like its an issue when there is literally no conflict of anything with him not releasing them.  Its his choice and you need to respect that.



It's a conflict with his own promises made during his campaign.

It's a conflict with the narrative he and his supporters presented with their distaste in the current previous president.

It's a clear double standard of partisan hacks forgiving their sides misgivings while acting like the other side doing it is tantamount to treason.





^But I guess it's okay if Trump does it, even if Trump rallied against these kind of practices for years.





dont you think the media would have been all over it if trump had his records sealed?


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Hes under no obligation to release them and you have no business asking for them.



Nonsense, he holds the highest public office in the United States, and is answerable to the people. People have a right to know if his money appears clean to the IRS.




Are you suggesting the IRS isn't going its job?  If his money wasn't "clean", that's an issue for the IRS.



I'm not suggesting that at all. I'm not even suggesting that Trumps money is dirty - I'm sure he's well within his legal boundaries. I just see a pretty clear parallel to Obama's birth certificate and Trumps tax returns, and having your staff announce that you're not going to release them after making promises that it was eventually coming (and even mentioning it during debates) should be a ding against him, not a opening for people to rush to his defense - in my mind.


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    #24031651 - 01/22/17 07:33 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

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what's it gonna say, he makes more or less than he claims, he pays more or less
than one would expect, he gives more or less in charitable donation but let's say
he decided to release those tax returns and he earns exactly what he claimed, his
gives what he said he did and he pays a reasonable amount in taxes, will the
dumbasses that are calling him hitler stop calling him hitler, will they suddenly
jump on the trump train? will racheal madcow choke on a used tampon? will TYT
finally pull their collective heads out of their asses and will progressives
actually give the man a chance?



Give the man a chance is what I've been telling people in person, because like it or not he's our president. Giving him a chance is not giving him a free ride to neglect the things he was elected to do (or better yet, to represent) however.

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dont you think the media would have been all over it if trump had his records sealed?



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    #24031668 - 01/22/17 07:37 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

Except the birth certificate issue was about him being an America citizen,  which is a legal requirement for holding the presidential position. He had an actual obligation to provide documentation in that instance and when he did release it it turned out to be forged, so if you wanna split hairs then Obamas entire presidency was illigitimate and the two terms he ran are the single greatest con of all time.


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Hes under no obligation to release them and you have no business asking for them.



Nonsense, he holds the highest public office in the United States, and is answerable to the people. People have a right to know if his money appears clean to the IRS.




Are you suggesting the IRS isn't going its job?  If his money wasn't "clean", that's an issue for the IRS.



I'm not suggesting that at all. I'm not even suggesting that Trumps money is dirty - I'm sure he's well within his legal boundaries. I just see a pretty clear parallel to Obama's birth certificate and Trumps tax returns, and having your staff announce that you're not going to release them after making promises that it was eventually coming (and even mentioning it during debates) should be a ding against him, not a opening for people to rush to his defense - in my mind.




I also have issue with his broken promise, he shouldn't have said he was going to release them in the first place.


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    #24031699 - 01/22/17 07:48 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

Does it bother you at all that he straight up lied when he said HE WOULD release his tax returns?

Would you be that forgiving of a democrat that told a similar lie?


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    #24031714 - 01/22/17 07:50 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

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Give the man a chance is what I've been telling people in person, because like it or not he's our president. Giving him a chance is not giving him a free ride to neglect the things he was elected to do (or better yet, to represent) however.





it seems trump's battle will be all uphill and no matter how well he does he will
always be treated as he is now by the media and in turn by the people. the media is
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Does it bother you at all that he straight up lied when he said HE WOULD release his tax returns?






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    #24031720 - 01/22/17 07:52 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

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Except the birth certificate issue was about him being an America citizen,  which is a legal requirement for holding the presidential position. He had an actual obligation to provide documentation in that instance and when he did release it it turned out to be forged, so if you wanna split hairs then Obamas entire presidency was illigitimate and the two terms he ran are the single greatest con of all time.





the birth certificate wasnt forged


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Except the birth certificate issue was about him being an America citizen,  which is a legal requirement for holding the presidential position. He had an actual obligation to provide documentation in that instance and when he did release it it turned out to be forged, so if you wanna split hairs then Obamas entire presidency was illigitimate and the two terms he ran are the single greatest con of all time.



I don't know the specifics on the idea of his certificate as a forgery, but Obama's presidency was practically bought by banks that he helped 'prop up' at the heels of the recession when he was both starting his campaign and was also quickly becoming the most influential democratic senator in office at the time because of it. McCain got large contributions from the same entities and ensured his party followed suit as well.

Regardless of whether he's foreign born or not, I'd say there were enough red flags for his presidency before even having been elected through contributions alone. But that's the presidency for you. I'm hoping Trump is different, time may tell.


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    #24031749 - 01/22/17 08:00 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

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Does it bother you at all that he straight up lied when he said HE WOULD release his tax returns?

Would you be that forgiving of a democrat that told a similar lie?




Yes, the fact that he did changed his position on it after specifically saying he would release it is problematic.

This comes down to a credibility issue, is this going to erode his credibility with his supporters down the road?  Time will tell.

I have no issue being critical of Trump as US President, in fact I'll be even more critical of Trump than I was of Obama, I had very low expectations of Obama, so I didn't find his incompetency as surprising.


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Except the birth certificate issue was about him being an America citizen,  which is a legal requirement for holding the presidential position. He had an actual obligation to provide documentation in that instance and when he did release it it turned out to be forged, so if you wanna split hairs then Obamas entire presidency was illigitimate and the two terms he ran are the single greatest con of all time.





the birth certificate wasnt forged




Sheriff says otherwise :scruffy:

http://www.abc15.com/news/region-phoenix-metro/central-phoenix/sheriff-joe-arpaio-to-talk-obama-birth-certificate-investigation


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We aren't a democracy we are a Republic. At state level sure democracy. I think the majority of people didn't pay attention in high school government class.

We are not a democracy.




I didn't say we ARE a democracy.  What I said is democracy, as a principle of government, works better with transparency.  And certainly, our Republic utilizes a lot of democracy oriented principles ... like voting for instance, for a peaceful transfer of power.




So because we elect them than they no longer have the right to have any sort of privacy? Ya fuck that.


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    #24031894 - 01/22/17 08:46 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

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Except the birth certificate issue was about him being an America citizen,  which is a legal requirement for holding the presidential position. He had an actual obligation to provide documentation in that instance and when he did release it it turned out to be forged, so if you wanna split hairs then Obamas entire presidency was illigitimate and the two terms he ran are the single greatest con of all time.




Bingo. But being a senator and than in the presidential election I'm sure that they have much more requirements for even applying for those positions.

Fuck I lost my wallet that had my ID and ss card in it. As a us born citizen it took me weeks to get my paperwork back. I didn't exist as a person. That bc shit was a joke. If anyone asked me for how much I make or my hourly wage. My tax return ID be offended and mine are benign as fuck. That's just rude.

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Except the birth certificate issue was about him being an America citizen,  which is a legal requirement for holding the presidential position. He had an actual obligation to provide documentation in that instance and when he did release it it turned out to be forged, so if you wanna split hairs then Obamas entire presidency was illigitimate and the two terms he ran are the single greatest con of all time.





the birth certificate wasnt forged




Sheriff says otherwise :scruffy:

http://www.abc15.com/news/region-phoenix-metro/central-phoenix/sheriff-joe-arpaio-to-talk-obama-birth-certificate-investigation





ah yes... a sheriff says otherwise


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    #24032218 - 01/22/17 11:37 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

Puts you at a bit of an ideological impasse now dont it? :uhno:


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    #24032226 - 01/22/17 11:46 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

nope. holding a position of power doesnt mean they cant be a conspiracy nutter


will sheriff joe be releasing the data he gathered during the 'investigation'?

all I see so far is that investigation consisted of a post on infowars where someone
rubber stamped FAKE across a laser printed image of the obama birth certificate


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I was so close



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    #24032237 - 01/22/17 11:55 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

So when its sheriffs gunning down blacks in the inner cities everything they say gets a free pass but if they say something about the government conspiring behind closed doors suddenly you need third party verification and a blood sample. Interesting.


Well he has that, in this case anyways. The document they posted on the whitehouse website for download opened up as layers in photoshop. They even found the document that he copied it from as part of their five year long investigation they did on it. They did a press release on it, if you wanna watch it come from the sheriff directly. 



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    #24032504 - 01/23/17 04:56 AM (7 years, 7 days ago)

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Well he has that, in this case anyways. The document they posted on the whitehouse website for download opened up as layers in photoshop. They even found the document that he copied it from as part of their five year long investigation they did on it. They did a press release on it, if you wanna watch it come from the sheriff directly. 





IF this is the case, then Trump should direct the FBI to do a thorough forensics study on it and release the findings.  If Trump doesn't do this, then you have him to blame for it.  I find it all highly unlikely.  If it is the case and it can be proven, it should be. 

It's in Trump's hands now.  He has the power and the resources to make his case.  If he doesn't, he's condoning fraud.


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Does it bother you at all that he straight up lied when he said HE WOULD release his tax returns?

Would you be that forgiving of a democrat that told a similar lie?




Yes, the fact that he did changed his position on it after specifically saying he would release it is problematic.

This comes down to a credibility issue, is this going to erode his credibility with his supporters down the road?  Time will tell.

I have no issue being critical of Trump as US President, in fact I'll be even more critical of Trump than I was of Obama, I had very low expectations of Obama, so I didn't find his incompetency as surprising.




I pretty much agree with all of this and am  hoping Trump will turn out to be a great president.  He needs to realize that when he is blatantly dishonest, the press will be a lot harder on him.

The press gave Obama a lot of leeway when it came to dishonesty and ducking from answering questions.  They won't do that with Trump.  I think Trump has a lot of potential to actually focus on issues that never get sustained attention.  Obama, as far as I'm concerned, was a big step backwards on many fronts.


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    #24032676 - 01/23/17 07:57 AM (7 years, 7 days ago)

You can't have an honest discussion about trump until you acknowledge the fact that he has filled his administration with zionists, and israel first dual citizens.

Until we have a candidate that isn't controlled by aipac and  israeli interests over american interests, nothing will change. Trump will be business as usual for the powers that be.

He is controlled by ashkenazi khazars just like every other politician in the US. Expect more war for israeli interests, expect trump to use war to stimulate the currently collapsing economy.


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Greed, money power, oil.:sad::mad2::scat:


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Except the birth certificate issue was about him being an America citizen,  which is a legal requirement for holding the presidential position. He had an actual obligation to provide documentation in that instance and when he did release it it turned out to be forged, so if you wanna split hairs then Obamas entire presidency was illigitimate and the two terms he ran are the single greatest con of all time.




Bingo. But being a senator and than in the presidential election I'm sure that they have much more requirements for even applying for those positions.

Fuck I lost my wallet that had my ID and ss card in it. As a us born citizen it took me weeks to get my paperwork back. I didn't exist as a person. That bc shit was a joke. If anyone asked me for how much I make or my hourly wage. My tax return ID be offended and mine are benign as fuck. That's just rude.

For everyone that's asking to see his post yours in the pub. Won't do it will you? That's personal information. I'm waiting.



Neither one of you have any clue. Just because you as a peasant have to fill out forms, you assume "they must have to fill out a lot more". This is a guess at best, amd truly neither one of you have any idea. Obama was amanufactured cia candidate, he won the peace prize by doing absolutely nothing, it is very possible no one checked his papers at all until he was running for president, amd thats when his forged birth certificate was discovoered...he was protected by the press for 8 years so the truth about his forged bc wouldnt come out...


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That fucking dickhead self righteous sheriff is a human piece of shit! Fcuk ANYTHING he has to say.:scat:


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So when its sheriffs gunning down blacks in the inner cities everything they say gets a free pass but if they say something about the government conspiring behind closed doors suddenly you need third party verification and a blood sample. Interesting.




so a cop investigating a case and insisting that they need to follow the evidence
and let the evidence determine the direction of  the investigation is fine when
he's claiming a smoking gun against a political official but it's never valid when
it clears a cop from shooting a black man



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Well he has that, in this case anyways. The document they posted on the whitehouse website for download opened up as layers in photoshop. They even found the document that he copied it from as part of their five year long investigation they did on it. They did a press release on it, if you wanna watch it come from the sheriff directly.




so you're telling me the most powerful intelligence agencies in the world had
concocted a fake birth certificate for the most powerful man in the US and it has
all been exposed as a fraud by a county sheriff with photoshop and yet this
sheriff did not arrest that fraudulent illegal alien while he was stumping out west


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Bodhi of Ankou said:
So when its sheriffs gunning down blacks in the inner cities everything they say gets a free pass but if they say something about the government conspiring behind closed doors suddenly you need third party verification and a blood sample. Interesting.




so a cop investigating a case and insisting that they need to follow the evidence
and let the evidence determine the direction of  the investigation is fine when
he's claiming a smoking gun against a political official but it's never valid when
it clears a cop from shooting a black man



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Well he has that, in this case anyways. The document they posted on the whitehouse website for download opened up as layers in photoshop. They even found the document that he copied it from as part of their five year long investigation they did on it. They did a press release on it, if you wanna watch it come from the sheriff directly.




so you're telling me the most powerful intelligence agencies in the world had
concocted a fake birth certificate for the most powerful man in the US and it has
all been exposed as a fraud by a county sheriff with photoshop and yet this
sheriff did not arrest that fraudulent illegal alien while he was stumping out west




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    #24033554 - 01/23/17 03:33 PM (7 years, 7 days ago)

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Bodhi of Ankou said:
So when its sheriffs gunning down blacks in the inner cities everything they say gets a free pass but if they say something about the government conspiring behind closed doors suddenly you need third party verification and a blood sample. Interesting.




so a cop investigating a case and insisting that they need to follow the evidence
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he's claiming a smoking gun against a political official but it's never valid when
it clears a cop from shooting a black man



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Well he has that, in this case anyways. The document they posted on the whitehouse website for download opened up as layers in photoshop. They even found the document that he copied it from as part of their five year long investigation they did on it. They did a press release on it, if you wanna watch it come from the sheriff directly.




so you're telling me the most powerful intelligence agencies in the world had
concocted a fake birth certificate for the most powerful man in the US and it has
all been exposed as a fraud by a county sheriff with photoshop and yet this
sheriff did not arrest that fraudulent illegal alien while he was stumping out west





Thats exactly what happened, and the intelligence community is a complete joke run by four buffoons who occupy their time playing spy make believe games. I have no idea how you can put any salt in their abilities after they got trolled by 4chan and released a fake fan fiction dossier as actual intelligence to the international community. Thats not even getting into the fact that what they did was sedition either which is a felony offense with a 20 year prison sentence. 

The wolves got into the henhouse mate.


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    #24033903 - 01/23/17 05:48 PM (7 years, 7 days ago)

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"Yup, Trumps probably gonna get impeached tomorrow"

"Comeys probably gonna resign tomorrow"

"pissgate is real, Trump is finished"




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    #24034030 - 01/23/17 06:26 PM (7 years, 7 days ago)

Id rather be sober and wrong than drunk and wrong


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    #24034036 - 01/23/17 06:27 PM (7 years, 7 days ago)

Yes, and I'd hate to be a jew under Trumps administration too, especially with what he's about to uncover.


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    #24034037 - 01/23/17 06:27 PM (7 years, 7 days ago)

Any way you slice it, Trump had a pretty good day today.


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    #24034046 - 01/23/17 06:29 PM (7 years, 7 days ago)

Such a low bar. He didn't make a fool of himself. Great day.


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    #24034946 - 01/24/17 12:57 AM (7 years, 7 days ago)

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Such a low bar. He didn't make a fool of himself. Great day.




Low bar?  Pulled out of TPP negotiations ... Met with pro democrat Union Leaders ... Met with both party's leaders together (something Obama rarely did) ... bans US Funds promoting abortion overseas ... Freezes Federal Employee Hiring ... negotiating with Ryan on agenda into the night ... Has meetings set with PM of England and Israel ...

That's a big day bud.  Obama never had one of those.  He tackled one issue a Quarter.


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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #24034950 - 01/24/17 01:00 AM (7 years, 7 days ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
So when its sheriffs gunning down blacks in the inner cities everything they say gets a free pass but if they say something about the government conspiring behind closed doors suddenly you need third party verification and a blood sample. Interesting.




so a cop investigating a case and insisting that they need to follow the evidence
and let the evidence determine the direction of  the investigation is fine when
he's claiming a smoking gun against a political official but it's never valid when
it clears a cop from shooting a black man



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Well he has that, in this case anyways. The document they posted on the whitehouse website for download opened up as layers in photoshop. They even found the document that he copied it from as part of their five year long investigation they did on it. They did a press release on it, if you wanna watch it come from the sheriff directly.




so you're telling me the most powerful intelligence agencies in the world had
concocted a fake birth certificate for the most powerful man in the US and it has
all been exposed as a fraud by a county sheriff with photoshop and yet this
sheriff did not arrest that fraudulent illegal alien while he was stumping out west





Thats exactly what happened





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