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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: qman]
#24031476 - 01/22/17 06:42 PM (7 years, 8 days ago) |
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Oh shit, its patrickkn! 
It has been quite awhile eh. Ive been busy coming up with plans for world domination and what not while I was away.
Admittedly I kind of missed shitposting with degenerates.
He's back! How is Canada dealing with the Trump results? Koods isn't dealing very well these days. 
Qman! Not too well but its not a huge deal over here since we're Canadian. Theres some groveling here and there but other then that nobody cares, definitely no Koods scale upsets
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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: KauaiOrca]
#24031519 - 01/22/17 06:55 PM (7 years, 8 days ago) |
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KauaiOrca said: He beat an incredibly weak candidate with serious legal problems and created more very motivated enemies than any President in recent history.
stop making this shit up because it's an outright fabrication, so fictitious it belongs on the clinton coverup network
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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: KauaiOrca]
#24031524 - 01/22/17 06:56 PM (7 years, 8 days ago) |
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Trump believes he's exempt from traditions that make good ethical sense like releasing tax returns and establishing blind trusts for investments. He flat out lied about his tax returns.
if he released his tax returns, just what are they going to tell us?
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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: Enjoywho]
#24031526 - 01/22/17 06:56 PM (7 years, 8 days ago) |
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PatrickKn said: Agreed, there is no reason for him not to release them at this point. Reminds me of a certain president and his birth certificate. Something Trump railed against and arguably benefited from enormously.
My tax returns are super bland but I would be fucking offended if someone asked for mine. That's like don't ask someone what they get paid or what there checks are. I would tell you to fuck off.
Incredibly personal information. I don't think being president makes your life open to the public. I'd let them complain for 4 years. As Obama should have done but let dumb assery win.
I've had to give my US citizenship papers for shit jobs. For a president I'm sure they're is a lot more to fill out.
Democracy works better with transparency.
Like I said, Trump's essentially a con man with some strong real estate development skills.
In his books he bragged endlessly about how he essentially conned and misled his investors and got away with it. Having said that, he took out the Bushes and Clintons pretty much single handedly and for that, I'd put him on Rushmore.
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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: Prisoner#1]
#24031529 - 01/22/17 06:58 PM (7 years, 8 days ago) |
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Trump believes he's exempt from traditions that make good ethical sense like releasing tax returns and establishing blind trusts for investments. He flat out lied about his tax returns.
if he released his tax returns, just what are they going to tell us?
Most likely that he's been lying for a long time about his charitable giving, that he has a lot more debt than he lets on and, that he hasn't paid much federal income tax at all.
Nothing illegal, just embarrassing I suspect.
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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: KauaiOrca]
#24031534 - 01/22/17 07:00 PM (7 years, 8 days ago) |
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KauaiOrca said: Democracy works better with transparency.
like the obama administration transparency?
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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: KauaiOrca]
#24031539 - 01/22/17 07:01 PM (7 years, 8 days ago) |
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Its not required. Hes under no obligation to release them and you have no business asking for them. Its not part of your set of of rights, nor is there any sort of law stating he has to.
Next MSM talking point please.
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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: Prisoner#1]
#24031542 - 01/22/17 07:01 PM (7 years, 8 days ago) |
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Trump believes he's exempt from traditions that make good ethical sense like releasing tax returns and establishing blind trusts for investments. He flat out lied about his tax returns.
if he released his tax returns, just what are they going to tell us?
That he's not a hypocritical asshole? The double standard of Obama's birth certificate and Trump's taxes is a pretty big one. Until he releases them, all we could possibly ask is, "what has he got to hide?"
Because the American people would really like to know.
It's a silly question Pris, how would we know unless he released them? His unwillingness to release them says something. Once he releases falsified documents like any president hiding shit would, everyone should be satisfied though, no?
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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: Prisoner#1]
#24031545 - 01/22/17 07:02 PM (7 years, 8 days ago) |
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We aren't a democracy we are a Republic. At state level sure democracy. I think the majority of people didn't pay attention in high school government class.
We are not a democracy.
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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#24031548 - 01/22/17 07:03 PM (7 years, 8 days ago) |
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Hes under no obligation to release them and you have no business asking for them.
Nonsense, he holds the highest public office in the United States, and is answerable to the people. People have a right to know if his money appears clean to the IRS.
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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: PatrickKn]
#24031557 - 01/22/17 07:05 PM (7 years, 8 days ago) |
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Youre making up some fake narrative where up is down and down is up. There is no law stating that and he has no obligation to release them. Next.
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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#24031565 - 01/22/17 07:07 PM (7 years, 8 days ago) |
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Youre making up some fake narrative where up is down and down is up. There is no law stating that and he has no obligation to release them. Next.
I haven't made up any narrative that I could tell. Lay it out for me where I did if you'd be so kind.
I never stated there was a legal obligation either, are you sure I'm the one making the narrative, or are you?
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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: PatrickKn]
#24031580 - 01/22/17 07:11 PM (7 years, 8 days ago) |
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Youre the one acting like its an issue when there is literally no conflict of anything with him not releasing them. Its his choice and you need to respect that.
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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#24031592 - 01/22/17 07:13 PM (7 years, 8 days ago) |
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Youre the one acting like its an issue when there is literally no conflict of anything with him not releasing them. Its his choice and you need to respect that.
It's a conflict with his own promises made during his campaign.
It's a conflict with the narrative he and his supporters presented with their distaste in the current previous president.
It's a clear double standard of partisan hacks forgiving their sides misgivings while acting like the other side doing it is tantamount to treason.

^But I guess it's okay if Trump does it, even if Trump rallied against these kind of practices for years.
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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: Prisoner#1]
#24031596 - 01/22/17 07:14 PM (7 years, 8 days ago) |
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KauaiOrca said: Democracy works better with transparency.
like the obama administration transparency?
I'm no Obama or Hillary fan. Both of them fought transparency every step of the way ... like most other presidents did.
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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: Enjoywho]
#24031608 - 01/22/17 07:18 PM (7 years, 8 days ago) |
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Enjoywho said: We aren't a democracy we are a Republic. At state level sure democracy. I think the majority of people didn't pay attention in high school government class.
We are not a democracy.
I didn't say we ARE a democracy. What I said is democracy, as a principle of government, works better with transparency. And certainly, our Republic utilizes a lot of democracy oriented principles ... like voting for instance, for a peaceful transfer of power.
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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: PatrickKn]
#24031611 - 01/22/17 07:19 PM (7 years, 8 days ago) |
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Well if you can come up with something more substantial then not releasing his tax returns you might get some traction with his supporters but for everyone who voted him in that really isnt an issue to him and Id reckon its not an issue for the vasy majority either. Come to think of it I dont even know why its such a big issue with you. Its kind of curious that youre putting so much weight on knowing how much he made last year. Surely theres bigger things for you to be upset about. Maybe a real issue of some sort.
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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: PatrickKn]
#24031616 - 01/22/17 07:21 PM (7 years, 8 days ago) |
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Hes under no obligation to release them and you have no business asking for them.
Nonsense, he holds the highest public office in the United States, and is answerable to the people. People have a right to know if his money appears clean to the IRS.
Are you suggesting the IRS isn't going its job? If his money wasn't "clean", that's an issue for the IRS.
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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: PatrickKn]
#24031618 - 01/22/17 07:23 PM (7 years, 8 days ago) |
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Trump believes he's exempt from traditions that make good ethical sense like releasing tax returns and establishing blind trusts for investments. He flat out lied about his tax returns.
if he released his tax returns, just what are they going to tell us?
That he's not a hypocritical asshole? The double standard of Obama's birth certificate and Trump's taxes is a pretty big one. Until he releases them, all we could possibly ask is, "what has he got to hide?"
Because the American people would really like to know.
It's a silly question Pris, how would we know unless he released them? His unwillingness to release them says something. Once he releases falsified documents like any president hiding shit would, everyone should be satisfied though, no?
what's it gonna say, he makes more or less than he claims, he pays more or less than one would expect, he gives more or less in charitable donation but let's say he decided to release those tax returns and he earns exactly what he claimed, his gives what he said he did and he pays a reasonable amount in taxes, will the dumbasses that are calling him hitler stop calling him hitler, will they suddenly jump on the trump train? will racheal madcow choke on a used tampon? will TYT finally pull their collective heads out of their asses and will progressives actually give the man a chance?
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Re: Michael Moore is firing up a hostile take over of the Democratic Party... [Re: PatrickKn]
#24031629 - 01/22/17 07:26 PM (7 years, 8 days ago) |
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Youre the one acting like its an issue when there is literally no conflict of anything with him not releasing them. Its his choice and you need to respect that.
It's a conflict with his own promises made during his campaign.
It's a conflict with the narrative he and his supporters presented with their distaste in the current previous president.
It's a clear double standard of partisan hacks forgiving their sides misgivings while acting like the other side doing it is tantamount to treason.

^But I guess it's okay if Trump does it, even if Trump rallied against these kind of practices for years.
dont you think the media would have been all over it if trump had his records sealed?
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