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I'm not a film critic, so I don't know what the best movies are. But here are my favorites, listed roughly in my order of rank:
Dr. Strangelove 2001: A Space Odyssey Apocalypse Now Citizen Kane The Treasure of the Sierra Madre The Godfather The Bridge on the River Kwai The Shining Taxi Driver Eraserhead Chinatown The Silence of the Lambs One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest No Country for Old Men The Exorcist
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^Very, very solid list.
The Fountain Wayne's World (unlike the others, but probably my favorite film of all time for memory's sake) Enter the Void Her
... other than that, I'm not really sure. I literally haven't watched film in the last couple of years, so it's hard for me to remember.
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Some favorites from stuff I've watched recently:
The Curse of the Cat People The Thin Red Line This Sporting Life Mr. Smith Goes to Washington Love Actually
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Nice. What a synchronicity -- I have been planning to watch The Thin Red Line tomorrow. I bought the dvd back in '98 or whenever it came out, and I got it out after all this time because I intend to do a little Terrence Malick run (including Knight of Cups and the Tree of Life). Haven't seen it since the nineties, but I remember it being amazing -- way better than Saving Private Ryan, which if memory serves came out around the same time. Malick is a very fine director.
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Indeed, I've only seen his first three, but both Days of Heaven and The Thin Red Line are really great. SPR came out the same year as TRL and won a bunch of oscars while TRL got nothing. I haven't seen SPR, but based on Spielberg's other stuff, there's no way it deserved to win over TRL.
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Yeah SPR was extremely well produced, but the story was neat and conventional, and it was quite trite when there were close ups of the flag. It's worth a watch for its realistic battle sequences, but it's not as sweeping and surreal and interesting as TRL, as I recall.
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I recently saw Knight of Cups and To The Wonder. I was pretty into Terrence Malick and didn't know he made any more after Tree of Life. I liked the cinemetography and poetic stream of conscious style of those last two, for sure. It is like the light is always glancing through his shots. Malick is Awesome.
Also, it's kind of cool he translated Heidegger's "The Essence of Truth".
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Where Heidegger talks about “world” he will often appear to be talking about a pervasive interpretation or point of view which we bring to the things of the world. This, in any case, has been the view of many commentators. But there is little sense in speaking of “a point of view” here since precisely what Heidegger wants to indicate with the concept is that none other is possible. And there is no more sense in speaking of an interpretation when, instead of an interpretation, the “world” is meant to be that which can keep us from seeing, or force us to see, that what we have is one.
As for a favorites they must come and hold that place for a bit. Those recent Malick one's weren't exactly my favorite movies, because they weren't really stories exactly. I saw Hayao Miyisaki's The Wind Rises (2013) recently, and I know some people might have liked to see another Spirited Away and have one more trip, but I am glad and appreciate his message and, that he didn't leave everyone hanging. So it is a favorite, but man, kind of a sad note though...
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Re: Favorite Movies [Re: Kurt]
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Forgot to post the source for the quote. It was his intro to the Heidegger essay, apparently. I have tried to find the full essay itself online before but never had any luck.
http://aphelis.net/terrence-malick-introduction-essence-reason-heidegger/
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DividedQuantum said: way better than Saving Private Ryan
I wouldn't say way better, both films view WWII in a different way, with Private Ryan being more raw and unforgiving, and TRL being more about the ruminations the soldiers had while exposed to such a hellacious environment. There's a reason WWII vets say SPR is THE WWII film.
Also, if you like WWII stuff, check out Band Of Brothers/The Pacific, both are great.
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Oh, don't get me wrong, it's a good and quite possibly great movie. Maybe I exaggerated when I said "way better," but as an artistic piece exploring the ambiguities and surrealism of war, I think TRL is superior. No, SPR is one of the best produced movies I've ever seen, and it's intensely realistic, amazingly so. I think the D-Day storming of Omaha beach is what the veterans appreciate so much -- one of the best war sequences probably ever. But the story is rather conventional and predictable, and I gotta say, those close-ups of the American flag at the end are a real turn-off for me.
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DividedQuantum said: But the story is rather conventional and predictable, and I gotta say, those close-ups of the American flag at the end are a real turn-off for me.
This is really what matters. We're talking about a fictional movie, not a documentary. Unless the war scenes are so unrealistic as to distract, varying levels of realism in that regard are really secondary.
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I agree.
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Now that I have seen both TRL (today) and SPR (about four months ago) recently, I can say for sure that TRL is quite a bit better, imho. The Thin Red Line is all about the essence of reality, the eternal touching the temporary, good to be found among horror, the psychological intensity of battle, and promise in death. Very nuanced, subtle, beautiful and yet true to the narrative of the war, which was ambiguous for everyone involved. Also the directing is phenomenal; it's simply a great movie. Spielberg definitely does not have the same touch or the artistic skill that Malick does here, and other than the D-Day sequence which was extraordinary, I feel that the war effects in TRL measure up just fine to the bulk of those in SPR.
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I am a huge movie fan. My list of favorites is pretty extensive so I will just name a handful, in no particular order:
True Romance Jackie Brown Bound (1996) House of Flying Daggers Running Scared (2006) Akira Haute Tension Mulholland Drive The Fifth Element Maverick (1994) Battle Royale
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Nice list.
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Nice list.
Heres most of mine:
Avatar  Back to the Future (series)  Star Wars (series) Star Trek (the new ones) Apocolopyse Now Legends of the Guardians: Owls of Ga'hole Momento Promethus The Matrix (series)  Half Baked Beerfest Super Troopers Starship Troopers Gamer Doom 7 Psychopaths Matchstick Men Cowboys vs. Aliens Jurasic Park The Lost World Jurasic World Speed Racer Transformers (series) The Hobbit (series) Lord of the Rings (series) The Avengers Enders Game The Fifth Element Iron Man (series)  Thor (series) Independence Day Oblivion Men In Black (series) Wall-E  The House at the End of the World Guardians of the Galaxy Dr. Strange Behind Enemy Lines Saving Private Ryan Windtalkers  007: Goldeneye 007: The World is Not Enough 007: Tomorrow's Another Day Man of the House Honey, I Shrunk the Kids Fast and the Furious (series) Tron Tron: Legacy Land of the Lost Blow Ice Age (series) Bad Boys Bad Boys II The Girl Next Door White Chicks The Time Machine Talladega Nights: Ballad of Ricky Bobby Go! Joe Dirt Theres Something About Mary Charlie's Angels Scary Movie (series) Airplane! Galaxy Quest Lost in Space! sci fi adventure with the talking robot: "Danger Mr. Robertson!" Oz Your Highness  Divergent Insurgent The Hunger Games Kung Fu Panda Ghost in the Shell (2017) weird ending thou. Still awesome. King Kong: Skull Island (2017) so artistic and a lil cheesy. But just a little. Life of Pi - just watched it Summer 2017. Wow, the surrealism, the intense feelz. So good. Planet of the Apes (the newer one) Dawn of the Planet of the Apes (so good. Had a little of everything). Edge of Tomorrow - Whoa. This Is The End
And others i cant remember at the moment...
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Just to name a few...
2001: A Space Odyssey The Shining Drive The Big Lebowski Inception The Royal Tennenbaums The Godfather 1 & 2 The Terminator 1 & 2 Predator Wayne's World Hoosiers Die Hard Big Trouble In Little China The Departed Shawshank Redemption Fight Club Goodfellas Slumdog Millionaire Pulp Fiction
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The Shawshank Redemption The Green Mile American Beauty True Romance Love and a 45 Avatar KPax Half Baked The Matrix Star Wars The Fifth Element Down to Earth The Professional Taxi Driver Practical Magic How to Train Your Dragon Forest Gump Beetlejuice The Crow Ender's Game The Abyss The Neverending Story Up in Smoke Edward Scissorhands And so many more..
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I would add to my list:
The Conversation The Lady from Shanghai The Thin Red Line The Searchers
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Something like this, but im forgetting a lot:
Persona A Tale of Two Sisters Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind Synecdoche, New York Gozu Fight Club The Exterminating Angel I Heart Huckabees Memento 12 Monkeys Donnie Darko The Silence Brazil Audition A Beautiful Mind The Fountain Inland Empire A Scanner Darkly Taxi Driver Casino The Silence of the Lambs The Ring Fantastic Planet A Clockwork Orange Pulse Stalker Mullholland Drive Pulp Fiction The Seventh Seal One Flew over the Cuckoos Nest Cube Cool Hand Luke Twin Peaks Eraserhead Blue Velvet Psycho Goodfellas Waking Life Pi The Holy Mountain The Game City of God American Beauty Discreet charm of the bourgeoisie Being John Malcovich Rain Man The Others Ringu The Truman Show Inception Requiem for a Dream Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas Inglourious Basterds Fargo Good Will Hunting Deconstructing Harry Mindwalk Videodrome Annie Hall Rosemary's Baby Reservoir dogs The Shining Lost Highway A Serbian Film The Machinist Old Boy
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Just got around to Tarantino's latest film (The Hateful Eight, was damn good but not great) and I'm looking for Scorsese's "Silence". 5 shrooms to the kind sir who can locate it. 2016, Martin Scorsese, "Silence". Thx guys you roll.
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mikeisapro said: Something like this, but im forgetting a lot:
Persona A Tale of Two Sisters Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind Synecdoche, New York Gozu Fight Club The Exterminating Angel I Heart Huckabees Memento 12 Monkeys Donnie Darko The Silence Brazil Audition A Beautiful Mind The Fountain Inland Empire A Scanner Darkly Taxi Driver Casino The Silence of the Lambs The Ring Fantastic Planet A Clockwork Orange Pulse Stalker Mullholland Drive Pulp Fiction The Seventh Seal One Flew over the Cuckoos Nest Cube Cool Hand Luke Twin Peaks Eraserhead Blue Velvet Psycho Goodfellas Waking Life Pi The Holy Mountain The Game City of God American Beauty Discreet charm of the bourgeoisie Being John Malcovich Rain Man The Others Ringu The Truman Show Inception Requiem for a Dream Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas Inglourious Basterds Fargo Good Will Hunting Deconstructing Harry Mindwalk Videodrome Annie Hall Rosemary's Baby Reservoir dogs The Shining Lost Highway A Serbian Film The Machinist Old Boy
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That's an old list. I would add a lot of stuff but I have severe depression from benzo withdrawal.
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mikeisapro said: That's an old list. I would add a lot of stuff but I have severe depression from benzo withdrawal. 
Bounce outta that benzo withdrawal yet?
I would like to add...
This Is The End Blow Snatch Groundhog Day Ferris Buellers Day Off The Goonies Christmas Vacation Full Metal Jacket (only the first half though) Gladiator Caddyshack Beetlejuice
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My favorite movies of all time:
Waking Life (haven't watched it in a few years but I've watched it so many times and speaks right to my core) Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas (especially in my drug fueled days, such a great movie)
Stepbrothers.. my guilty pleasure movie. I think it's one of the greatest comedies of all time, up there with Superbad, 40 Year Old Virgin.. don't judge
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What are your thoughts about this? I might have something to say, but I'd like to hear your perspective first.
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It's not that I don't enjoy the 2nd half of the movie, it's just that for me, it's a little generic and forgettable. Which are two words that are rarely, if ever, used to describe a Kubrick film.
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I'm inclined to agree with you. I love Full Metal Jacket, but I have always been bothered by the second half for several reasons. One, the first half (with Lee Ermey and Vincent D'Onofrio) is so fucking good that the second half seems to fall a little flat in comparison. Two, Kubrick shot the movie in England, and it shows. It really does not look like tropical Indochina. He shipped in a lot of palm trees from Spain, but that doesn't really cut it for me. Three, my Dad is a Vietnam vet. He served in the 101st Airborne Division at Foo Bai and was in the Jag corps at Nha Trang, Da Nang, and Saigon. He doesn't like Full Metal Jacket. He says that, first of all, it doesn't look realistic. That is not what it looked and felt like. Also, FMJ depicts a city battle -- in Hue -- and the Vietnam war was anything but a city war. It was a brutal jungle war.
His favorite Vietnam movie, he says by far, is Apocalypse Now. He says it's realistic, and the surreality of it is very close to the mark. He said the bridge scene at night, towards the end, is a mirror image of situations like that that he saw in country. I am not a veteran, but I happen to agree that AN is the best Vietnam movie, and one of the best war movies ever made.
But FMJ, as you say, is a Kubrick film, and I do like it a lot. I think things would be very different if he shot it on location, in the Philippines or something. He should not have let his fear of flying or being far from home affect the quality of his filmmaking. Not that that would have addressed all of my points. Philosophically and thematically, it's a great movie. But it is deeply flawed.
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Forgetting sarah Marshall Almost famous Roadtrip Ex machina Fear And loathing
Those are my go to movies..
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I watched Malick's The New World yesterday. It's great. The ending is a gut punch.
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DividedQuantum said: Oh, don't get me wrong, it's a good and quite possibly great movie. Maybe I exaggerated when I said "way better," but as an artistic piece exploring the ambiguities and surrealism of war, I think TRL is superior. No, SPR is one of the best produced movies I've ever seen, and it's intensely realistic, amazingly so. I think the D-Day storming of Omaha beach is what the veterans appreciate so much -- one of the best war sequences probably ever. But the story is rather conventional and predictable, and I gotta say, those close-ups of the American flag at the end are a real turn-off for me.
I saw the Thin Red Line in the theatre back in '99 and did'nt like it very much. Ov course i was 14-15 at the time and did not have the comprehension and appreciation ov film that i now possess, so i would doubtless view it in a different light. SPR was very good. My favorite war(or anti-war if you'd like) movie remains to be Sam Peckinpah's Cross of Iron(1977), a WWII movie from the German perspective on the Russian front filmed in then-Yugoslavia with porn money.
My extensive favorite movie list would be dominated by the works ov Derek Jarman, Gregg Araki, Emir Kusturica, and Sam Peckinpah. I also have a heavy bias towards movies from the periods '69-'74 and '85-'95. If i had to narrow it down to 10 right now, they would probably be:
Caravaggio The Living End Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia The Last of England Edward II El Topo Totally Fucked Up Dust Devil The Wild Bunch Black Cat, White Cat
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I look forward to seeing that.
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I saw the Thin Red Line in the theatre back in '99 and did'nt like it very much. Ov course i was 14-15 at the time and did not have the comprehension and appreciation ov film that i now possess, so i would doubtless view it in a different light. SPR was very good. My favorite war(or anti-war if you'd like) movie remains to be Sam Peckinpah's Cross of Iron(1977), a WWII movie from the German perspective on the Russian front filmed in then-Yugoslavia with porn money.
My extensive favorite movie list would be dominated by the works ov Derek Jarman, Gregg Araki, Emir Kusturica, and Sam Peckinpah. I also have a heavy bias towards movies from the periods '69-'74 and '85-'95. If i had to narrow it down to 10 right now, they would probably be:
Caravaggio The Living End Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia The Last of England Edward II El Topo Totally Fucked Up Dust Devil The Wild Bunch Black Cat, White Cat
Very interesting list. You seem to have unique tastes.
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I saw the Thin Red Line in the theatre back in '99 and did'nt like it very much. Ov course i was 14-15 at the time and did not have the comprehension and appreciation ov film that i now possess, so i would doubtless view it in a different light. SPR was very good. My favorite war(or anti-war if you'd like) movie remains to be Sam Peckinpah's Cross of Iron(1977), a WWII movie from the German perspective on the Russian front filmed in then-Yugoslavia with porn money.
My extensive favorite movie list would be dominated by the works ov Derek Jarman, Gregg Araki, Emir Kusturica, and Sam Peckinpah. I also have a heavy bias towards movies from the periods '69-'74 and '85-'95. If i had to narrow it down to 10 right now, they would probably be:
Caravaggio The Living End Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia The Last of England Edward II El Topo Totally Fucked Up Dust Devil The Wild Bunch Black Cat, White Cat
I havent heard of *any* of those movies
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Into the Wild is one of my favorite movies, I'm trying to think of more but I guess I don't watch movies often. How I Met Your Mother is a 10/10 TV show though.
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Here is an updated list, a top 20, in my order of rank. I thought I would share it and submit it for comment:
1. Dr. Strangelove 2. 2001: A Space Odyssey 3. Apocalypse Now 4. Citizen Kane 5. The Treasure of the Sierra Madre 6. The Godfather 7. The Bridge on the River Kwai 8. The Shining 9. Eraserhead 10. Taxi Driver 11. Chinatown 12. The Searchers 14. The Silence of the Lambs 14. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest 15. The Exorcist 16. The Conversation 17. The Lady from Shanghai 18. The Thin Red Line 19. A Clockwork Orange 20. No Country for Old Men
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I can sight my favourite Australian made or related moves
'Dogs in Space' - 1986 'Walkabout' - 1971 'Mad Max' - 1979 'Bad Boy Bubby' - 1993 'Dark City' - 1998 'The Proposition' - 2005
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Shit, also
'Picnic at Hanging Rock' -1975
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Hahah, Yes, Classic, totally disturbing.
Talking of Australian films that are disturbing, have you see;
'Wake In Fright' - 1971
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For australian films, how about "Romper Stomper" and kind of the other end of the scale "Danny deck chair"
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'Wake In Fright' - 1971
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I think i saw it tripping one night on the cult films section of Saturday night SBS. the guy with the big glasses. after all the trippy animations.
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Na, never seen "Danny deck chair", I better follow that up, but "Romper Stomper" a killer
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omg yes, metal skin lol
i had totally forgotten.
someone should do an Australian 90's underground cult film festival
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obtuse said: omg yes, metal skin lol
i had totally forgotten.
someone should do an Australian 90's underground cult film festival
Yes agree, right up there would be the amazing - 'Love Serenade' - 1996
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i dont know it,
but Miranda Otto. is now on my watch list lol
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The sex scene in this film brings new meaning to the word awkward!
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Muriel's Wedding is hilarious. Werner Herzog's Where the Green Ants Dream is based in Australia.
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DividedQuantum said: I'm inclined to agree with you. I love Full Metal Jacket, but I have always been bothered by the second half for several reasons. One, the first half (with Lee Ermey and Vincent D'Onofrio) is so fucking good that the second half seems to fall a little flat in comparison. Two, Kubrick shot the movie in England, and it shows. It really does not look like tropical Indochina. He shipped in a lot of palm trees from Spain, but that doesn't really cut it for me. Three, my Dad is a Vietnam vet. He served in the 101st Airborne Division at Foo Bai and was in the Jag corps at Nha Trang, Da Nang, and Saigon. He doesn't like Full Metal Jacket. He says that, first of all, it doesn't look realistic. That is not what it looked and felt like. Also, FMJ depicts a city battle -- in Hue -- and the Vietnam war was anything but a city war. It was a brutal jungle war.
His favorite Vietnam movie, he says by far, is Apocalypse Now. He says it's realistic, and the surreality of it is very close to the mark. He said the bridge scene at night, towards the end, is a mirror image of situations like that that he saw in country. I am not a veteran, but I happen to agree that AN is the best Vietnam movie, and one of the best war movies ever made.
But FMJ, as you say, is a Kubrick film, and I do like it a lot. I think things would be very different if he shot it on location, in the Philippines or something. He should not have let his fear of flying or being far from home affect the quality of his filmmaking. Not that that would have addressed all of my points. Philosophically and thematically, it's a great movie. But it is deeply flawed.
Hue certainly didn't look like a jungle during the battle portrayed in the film.

and the base (before the first attack on Tet) looks realistic too.

i think the underpinnings in the second act reflect well on the first. everyone is still friendly with eachother, because they know eachother from boot camp, but at the same time, everyone is different- death is expected, and everyone wants to look away (lest it's a gook they are looking at [staring death in the face], or unless it's Animal Mother, whom is unable to hide his humanity and wears it on his sleeve-- why he's so insulting to everyone)
i think, and i'm just trying to be honest here...that you guys have a problem with the pacing more than anything...plot goes from comedic underpinnings, to a major malfunction, but then to a more subdued plot about a singular event, and the tiny moments surrounding it (the media, prostitution, travelling en route to objectives); by the time you hit the action at Hue, it seems too slow and plodding, mayhaps- because it's dealing with the theme of war in a way that isn't as theatric as most war movies- the kills are all accrued by either trap, or the sniper, and zero enemies are killed in any really dramatic fashion (once through the gate at the base, and once as they cross an alley in Hue, that is, before the cameramen are taking that long tracking shot, and they all make quips at them, before long being interviewed, and they all have some very human things to say); that is to say, it's all very shallow (the guy even laughs after the second aforementioned row of kills)...point being, i think the point is that it's NOT taken very seriously, in the sense of what humanity is truly there; that is, until they get lost, and get commanded into what is inevitably the death of most of the squads members. by the time the sniper is saying "shoot", you've seen the triviality of war, in the most human sense...no feelings...just triviality.
i think that was the point.
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'Picnic at Hanging Rock' -1975
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No, I didn't say Hue looked like a jungle in real life, I intended to say that the scenes outside of the city in the movie didn't look like Indochina. All the palm trees Kubrick trucked in really didn't fix the problem. The more important point is that, in the words of my dad, the Vietnam War was not a city war, so a movie about a battle in Hue does not reflect the overall tone of the larger conflict. He did two tours in Vietnam, and said he thought FMJ had nowhere near the realism of AN. My dad actually spent a couple of months in Hue with the Jag Corps, well after Tet, and said the city didn't look like it does in the movie. I still love FMJ, which is why it's such a problem for me that it is so flawed in the eyes of an actual veteran. Without his input I would really have no qualms. But the input of a veteran about a movie based on the war he fought in should be valued, imo. I can't un-hear what he said to me.
Edit: And yeah, as far as the first and second half, thing. I appreciate your points and sympathize with most of them, however I think it is a question of intensity. Many people do make this argument because the emotional intensity of the first section seems to be stronger than that of the rest of the movie, perhaps with the exception of some of the combat. I'm not sure I'm fully with those who are critical, but I can easily see their point. I do enjoy the in-country scenes very much, though. But the level of emotional tension in the boot camp scenes is so high that I do think a legitimate argument can be made that it was almost too good for the film's own good. Somehow. It's still, after all is said and done, one of my favorite war movies.
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i can agree with that...mostly. but i still don't think the film was trying to reflect the overall war, just a small part of it. that's where i think the critique falters a bit...why does the movie have to portray "the overall tone of the war", as if it needs to cover the war from the ground up-- can't it just portray the tone as "regular joes go from bootcamp to in-country and then to a minute portion of the war"; i mean, the lead is from a journalists perspective...not a combat solider. maybe the tone is smaller in scale, purposefully, to denote a message less about a commentary on the war itself, and more about how these regular people were taken out of their regular lives (remember the intro sequence in the barber shop) to fight in a terrible war? then the tone can be less concerned with "war and the conflict in Vietnam" as an overall piece of History, and more concerned with the smaller story therein, culminating to the single battle (the single set-piece) for the film?
sorry for pressing such a pointless issue, but i just think it's kind of misplaced to presume that the film had to treat the war as such a big set-piece for the film to work...to me, it's sort of like...well, maybe that's what Kubrick wanted to avoid? to avoid making the film about the war itself, per se, and to have it more about a story set within the war. sorta like saying "everyone makes war movies about the war itself, and it's dehumanizing effects; i wanna make a movie just detailing the dehumanization, while focusing as little on the aspects of war, as possible".
that's just my perspective on things. most of the critiques i see i think can be rightfully so levelled at the film, it's not perfect, certainly.
PS: i've only been able to narrow down three favorite films.
the first ever i've been able to pin down was...
Taxi Driver
so that officially is my favorite film ever of all time.
second comes
Barry Lyndon
seeing as though Kubrick is my favorite director, and it is my favorite film of his.
thirdly comes the only other film i've been able to pin down as an absolute, above all else, favorite...and that is
The Exorcist
because of that film's greatness (although i watched Exorcist 3, and it's arguably better, in terms of artistic vision) AND the fact that i can consistently watch it anytime and have it be just as good as the last time (or better)...means it gets that coveted spot.
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Fair enough, good points.
Nice list.
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Yes, that one sure is hilarious ;-)
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my fav movies r easier broken down by director i think
Coen Bros - i love Serious Man.. and Burn After Reading is great fun.. but pretty much all their stuff is fantastic.
Charlie Kaufman - Eternal Sunshine, Being John Malkovic and Adaptation are great (jury is still out on Synecdoche :unsure:)
Terry Gilliam - Brasil and 12 Monkeys are 2 of my fav movies ever.. cant say i am mad abt what else ive seen tho
Jodorowsky - Holy Mountain, El Topo, Santa Sagre  Sanata Sangre has to be one of the best horror movies ive seen
speaking of great horror.. Babadook!  the Shining is also great..
Tropical Malady is an amazing thai movie with horror and magical realism elements which reminded me of Pan's Labrynth.. which reminds me
Pan's Labrynth!
also Oliver Oliver is a great magical realism type movie
uhmmmmm
all Tarrentino stuff is good fun.. i really liked Sin City which seems to be a similar vein..
most creative award goes to either Dark City or City of Lost Children 
the Lobster gets the weirdest movie award
young me award goes to the Matrix
young young me award goes to Gremlins or the Mask..
nothing else is coming to mind but im sure ive missed some great ones.. this thread has inspired me to download some movies 
edit.. thinking of Gremlins and that i'd been to a puppet museum today reminded me of Jim Henson who's Dark Crystal must be a contender for most creative and just coolest movie, and Labrynth which is kinda the same but with David Bowie!!?
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Re: Favorite Movies [Re: quinn]
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Favorite movie by far is The Good, The Bad, The Weird. The music, the sets, and even the gun fights/shooting are fantastic. Its probably still on netflix but get ready for subtitles cause its in korean
Second to that is Odd Thomas, although the chick in that movie is so devastatingly good looking and they way they wrote her character makes me straight fall in love so I need to not watch it in a shitty mood or Ill just feel like crap about myself for the rest of the day
Dr. Strange was also surprisingly good for something made recently
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Im a huge movie fan and its literally impossible to narrow it down so here are a bunch of the top of my head. A simple plan, southern comfort, phenomena, repo man, the thing (82), they live, Martin (77), dark city, arrival, sorcerer, goodfellas, after hours, pulp fiction, raiders of the lost ark , Jurassic park , el topo, holy mountain, a field in England, kill list, heavy metal, rivers edge, terminator, blade runner, beetle juice, edward scissor hands, waking life, a scanner darkly , boyhood, Carrie, dreams, the wicker man, take shelter, Star Trek wrath of khan , Star Trek the undiscovered country, Star Trek a voyage home , contact, the life aquatic , Shaun of the dead , hot fuzz, the worlds end , don't look now, the babadook, the exorcist, dust devil, 2001 space odyssey , knightriders, the people under the stairs, the Texas chainsaw massacre, the changeling , altered states, nightwish, birdman, run Lola run, 12 monkeys, big fish , long weekend, John dies at the end, the Manchurian candidate, the godfather 1&2, heavenly creatures, frailty , in the mouth of madness , once upon a time in the west Chinatown, delicatessen, the dark knight, one false move, Johnny mnemonic & etc.
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A lot of very good ones in there.
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Indeed, including Dust Devil! Richard Stanley is awesome. Altered States is much maligned and it could have been more polished for sure, but it is a cool little flick in its own right. Nice list caman.
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Re-animator From Beyond Lord Of The Rings trilogy Clerks The Toxic Avenger & Citizen Toxie Night Of The Living Dead Dawn & Day The Terminator & Judgement Day Predator Commando The Running Man Alien trilogy Prometheus American Psycho Conan The Barbarian & Destroyer Boogie Nights Zombie Flesh Eaters (Lucio Fulci) The Evil Dead & AOD Braindead Hellraiser & Hellbound The Beyond Robocop Home Alone 1 & 2 Escape From New York & LA Die Hard 1 2 & 3 Jurassic Park Cube Snatch Happy Gilmore Cemetery Man Creature From The Black Lagoon The Blob The Fly Videodrome Lawrence Of Arabia White Zombie I Eat Your Skin Orgazmo Cannibal The Musical The Thing
I can keep going. Its so hard to pick because they all are all gems to me.
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Nice.
I see u like the gory/horror stuff. A nice collection there.
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Re: Favorite Movies [Re: lavod]
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Thanks man and yes I totally agree with you about altered states, could have taken it in a much more interesting direction but hell its the best movie we have about a psychonaut taking psychedelics in a isolation tank we have for now.
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My top 10 in no particular order:
Kill Bill Vol.1 Pulp Fiction Empire Strikes Back Aliens The Matrix Shawshank Redemption Goodfellas The Departed 300 The Terminator
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Nice list.
Just saw Dawn of the Planet of the Apes. Wow, what a great movie. Action, emotion, good feelz, betrayal, like a Greek Epic or something. Incredible. Definitely on my list now.
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Rogue Robot said: I am a huge movie fan. My list of favorites is pretty extensive so I will just name a handful, in no particular order:
True Romance
Opened thread > ctrl+f > True Romance
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Like most modern first worlders, I have seen and like a lot of movies and I like mainstream stuff for the most part.
Star Wars Trilogy (original) Blade Runner The Time Machine (1960) The Godfather I & II The Seventh Seal Pulp Fiction Forrest Gump Back to the Future Trilogy Indiana Jones Trilogy Terminator I & II The Wizard of Oz 12 Monkeys Dr. Strangelove Unforgiven Dollars Trilogy Friday Office Space Mad Max I & II (Road Warrior) Dances With Wolves Frankenstein (1931) Planet of the Apes (1968) Lord of the Rings Trilogy Alien and Aliens The Matrix Ghost in the Shell (1995) (I like the new one too) Scarface Total Recall Das Boot Hunt for Red October Falling Down Babe Wall Street
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Very nice list.
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"Babe"

Still havent seen the original Time Machine. Actually, didnt know there was one. I gotta check it out sometime.
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It influenced me a lot as a kid. Both the movie and the book. It helped foster my love of science and science fiction. Definitely check it out. I think it stands up over time.
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Matrix Animatrix Mr Nobody Donnie Darko Pulp Fiction Reservoir Dogs Enter the Void Irreversible Kynodontas (Dog Tooth) The Lobster Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas Naked Lunch A Scanner Darkly Ghost in the Shell (anime) Blade Runner Oldboy (Asian one) Memento Into the Wild Pan's Labyrinth Amelie A Clockwork Orange Full Metal Jacket One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus Rock n Rolla Revolver Snatch Lock, Stock and two Smoking Barrels Trainspotting (1 and 2) Waking Life Yellow Submarine Cloud Atlas Looper Predestination Zero Theorem Paprika The Fountain The Machinist American Psycho The Prestige V for Vendetta Tokyo! Being John Malkovich Requiem for a Dream The Truman Show Inception The Usual Suspects Shutter Island Fight Club Source Code American History X Se7en Sin City Lost Highway Cashback Spirited Away Howl's Moving Castle Interstate 60 The Dreamers A Coffee in Berlin Coffee and Cigarettes Fantastic Planet Holy Mountain eXistenZ The Thirteenth Floor Samsara Baraka Lord of the Rings Hobbit The Lives of Others
Documentaries: Panopticon Dirty Pictures Neurons to Nirvana DMT: The Spirit Molecule Drugs Inc Zeitgeist Planet Earth Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey Human Planet Kymatica Exit Through the Gift Shop The Union: The Business Behind Getting High The Culture High Tim's Vermeer The Internet's Own Boy: The Story of Aaron Swartz Downloaded We Steal Secrets: The Story of Wikileaks TPB AFK: The Pirate Bay Away From Keyboard Future by Design What's in my Baggie Food, Inc Waste Land We are Legion: The Story of Hacktivists Sigur Ros: Heima
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Re: Favorite Movies [Re: Pengbit]
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Very nice
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eh.. I only watch anime so ill have to go with that.
One Piece Hunter Hunter JoJos Bizzare Adventure Gurren Lagann Attack on Titan Psycho Pass Hellsing (original one) Berserk March comes in like a Lion Vampire Dance Log Horizon Grimgar is it wrong to pick up girls in a dungeon? No game no life so you thought there were never any girls online? Tanya the evil Konasuba gods gift to this wonderful world Overlord Re:Zero Highschool DxD the devil is a part timer Ace of diamond Your lie in april Alice and zoroku Code geass Alderamin in the sky Food Wars The heroic legend of arslan Sword Art Online Deathnote school live! Sound euphonium Drifters noragami Cowboy bebop Sidonia seven mortal sins
some popular ones I really don't like don't watch these: Nurato Fairy Tail Bleach Dragon Ball Yuri on Ice Gintama most all mech ones (except sidonia)
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In no particular order:
·Holy mountain (Alexandro Jodorowsky) ·Doctor strangelove ·Dirty pictures (alexander shulgin) ·Enter the void ·The Alchemical Dream: Rebirth of the Great Work (Terence McKenna) ·Neurons to nirvana ·The grateful dead movie ·one flew over the cuckoo's nest ·Naked lunch ·Magic trip (Ken kesey documentary) ·Strange attractor (Terence McKenna) ·A clockwork Orange ·DMT the spirit molecule ·Sick birds die easy ·Dark Star: HR Gigers Welt (2014) ·The Substance: Albert Hofmann's LSD ·Long strange trip (2017) ·Orange sunshine (2016) ·The sunshine makers (2015) ·Lo and behold (Herzog) ·Barton fink ·PEYOTE TO LSD: A PSYCHEDELIC ODYSSEY ·Manifesting the mind ·Cognition factor
Generally I am against activities which I consider "bad mental hygiene" and television and movies are defiantly an area where one must be very careful.
I'm not sure why Marshall McLuhan's writings are not popular amongst the "hip" people of today, but they have had an incredible impact on myself as well as the way in which I view media.
I enjoy films which teach you something, make you think, take your mind on a journey, inspire you, educate you, open your eyes to something, or films which are a true artistic expression.
The mainstream Hollywood films never did much for me, its a type of cultural programming, all governments have been aware of how to use media to manipulate the thought of thecmasees, the Nazi party was probably the most obvious example as they viciously employed these techniques and when the regime fell their secrets were exposed, in the modern first world it's much more subtke. the tragedy is that many of these same propaganda techniques which were employed by, preferred by, or created by Nazis are still being used today.
If public manipulation through media is an interest for you look into a book called "Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon: Laurel Canyon, Covert Ops & the Dark Heart of the Hippie Dream" by David McGowan, it's not that I fully buy into McGowan's theory, but being a Marshall McLuhan reader this type of manipulation through media caught my attention. Regardless, it makes you think about the motivations behind the production of a good deal of mainstream art, movies, and music.
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only a few on here i havent seen mentioned
It's All Gone Pete Tong 24 Hour Party People Clear an Present Danger Beetlejuice (i dare you to try watching it coming up on like 300ugs) Lock Stock and Two Smokin' Barrels Party Monster (read the book its based on as well)
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DividedQuantum said: I'm not a film critic, so I don't know what the best movies are. But here are my favorites, listed roughly in my order of rank:
Dr. Strangelove 2001: A Space Odyssey Apocalypse Now Citizen Kane The Treasure of the Sierra Madre The Godfather The Bridge on the River Kwai The Shining Taxi Driver Eraserhead Chinatown The Silence of the Lambs One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest No Country for Old Men The Exorcist
¿Y Tu?
Some of those are also my favs. The Shining, Eraserhead, and Apocalypse Now. I've been meaning to see Dr Strangelove for ages now.
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Heres most of mine:
Avatar  Back to the Future (series)  Star Wars (series) Star Trek (the new ones) Apocolopyse Now Legends of the Guardians: Owls of Ga'hole Momento Promethus The Matrix (series)  Half Baked Beerfest Super Troopers Starship Troopers Gamer Doom 7 Psychopaths Matchstick Men Cowboys vs. Aliens Jurasic Park The Lost World Jurasic World Speed Racer Transformers (series) The Hobbit (series) Lord of the Rings (series) The Avengers Enders Game The Fifth Element Iron Man (series)  Thor (series) Independence Day Oblivion Men In Black (series) Wall-E  The House at the End of the World Guardians of the Galaxy Dr. Strange Behind Enemy Lines Saving Private Ryan Windtalkers  007: Goldeneye 007: The World is Not Enough 007: Tomorrow's Another Day Man of the House Honey, I Shrunk the Kids Fast and the Furious (series) Tron Tron: Legacy Land of the Lost Blow Ice Age (series) Bad Boys Bad Boys II The Girl Next Door White Chicks The Time Machine Talladega Nights: Ballad of Ricky Bobby Go! Joe Dirt Theres Something About Mary Charlie's Angels Scary Movie (series) Airplane! Galaxy Quest Lost in Space! sci fi adventure with the talking robot: "Danger Mr. Robertson!" Oz Your Highness  Divergent Insurgent The Hunger Games Kung Fu Panda Ghost in the Shell (2017) weird ending thou. Still awesome. King Kong: Skull Island (2017) so artistic and a lil cheesy. But just a little. Life of Pi - just watched it Summer 2017. Wow, the surrealism, the intense feelz. So good. Planet of the Apes (the newer one) Dawn of the Planet of the Apes (so good. Had a little of everything). Edge of Tomorrow - Whoa. This Is The End
And others i cant remember at the moment...
I think you have terrible taste in movies and TV shows, but a few of those are on my list too, or films I regard highly, haha. For example I thought Edge of Tomorrow was terrible and boring. This is the End is a classic, my next fav 'Seth Rogan' film after Superbad. Apocalypse Now and the first Matrix movie are 100% for me. Avatar I hate more than anything ever.
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Re: Favorite Movies [Re: Jufin]
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U hated Edge of Tomorrow and Avatar?
Youre killing my dreams bro.
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I can't help it, it just is.
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Re: Favorite Movies [Re: Jufin]
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Fair enough.
Your awesome avatar makes me feel better.
Did u make a list already?
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Well thank you very much . It was a photo taken on the beach when me and the missus got naked and painted ourselves tribal and danced around and shit. There's a full video clip of it on youtube, you can see my missus' tits and the black outline of my dick at one point.
Not yet, but I've been going over it in my head for a while. I remember an old friend of mine saying to me once, 'I like so many shit movies.' And I was thinking, yes, you do, you really do, but I thought you liked them because you thought they were good, and not shit, but he seemed to think both at the same time. And now I finally understand.
Spring Breakers The Shining Mulholland Drive Blade Runner Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me Alien Spirited Away Mad Max: Fury Road The Matrix (1st one) Donnie Darko Drive LOTR (all 3) Julien Donkey Boy Gummo Drive Princess Mononoke Eraserhead Akira Apocalypse Now Natural Born Killers
I'm sure there are some crucial ones missing, but that's what I can remember right now.
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In no order
Rounders Casino Goodfellas Goonies High roller, the Stu Unger story Lock stock & 2 smoking barrels Snatch Boondocks saints The Departed Lost boys Bones brigade the search for chin Go Akira Legend of the over fiend Let's grow mushrooms The exorsist Comming to America
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Casablanca - I can nevere tire of watching it and it always manages to sweep me away.
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Re: Favorite Movies [Re: Macedon]
#24545489 - 08/11/17 08:00 AM (6 years, 5 months ago) |
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I just watched:
"Electric Apricot: Quest for Festeroo"
...And thought it was hilarious, it's basically "spinal tap" but focused on jam bands rather than hair bands.
...the garcia tortilla.
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Sounds interesting, let's see where I can find to watch it.
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Re: Favorite Movies [Re: Macedon]
#24545603 - 08/11/17 08:57 AM (6 years, 5 months ago) |
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Macedon said: Sounds interesting, let's see where I can find to watch it.
I have amazon fire TV, so I know you can watch it with amazon for free.
It would probably be offensive if it was not so damn funny, because "hippie" type people get a lot of fun poked at them, again, imagine "this is spinal tap" but focused on jam band/hippie/festival culture.
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Ibex-Trismegistus said: I just watched:
"Electric Apricot: Quest for Festeroo"
...And thought it was hilarious, it's basically "spinal tap" but focused on jam bands rather than hair bands.
...the garcia tortilla.
"hey are you going to burning man"
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Ibex-Trismegistus said: I just watched:
"Electric Apricot: Quest for Festeroo"
...And thought it was hilarious, it's basically "spinal tap" but focused on jam bands rather than hair bands.
...the garcia tortilla.
"hey are you going to burning man"
Ha ha ha, in the very last scene when they are playing the festival the guitarist actually looks like jerry, the way he is staring into space with the slightly open mouth and lip movements, great stuff. Jerry lives! Ha ha ha.
On another note, just watched "humano" ( Initial release: October 12, 2013 )
In this documentary man travels to the mountains to find spirituality, he consumes san Pedro with a shaman, he also completes several other shamanic practices. It's a great movie, and there is plenty of great shamanic insight.
I was watching "humano" with friends and all of them said "the shaman says the same things you are always telling us", to me it's a sign that the information is derived from the entheogen, either me and this guy from another part if the planet and from another culture are near identical in our methods of thought, or, more probably, we had the same teacher.
The lessons from the cactus are universal, perhaps some have shamanic personalities and have a higher affinity for receiving and communicating these messages, though I am of the opinion that everybody can learn from these plant teachers equally, we all have the potential to receive the same gnosis. This is why I frequently give away shamanic psychedelics to all those who are interested (who are adults of coarse, and who seem as though they would be responsible ), it's because I know that they can be shown just as I was.
Many years back I experienced a "shamanic crisis", also known as "shamanic initiation", and I have been completely transformed ever since, and all for the better, as was said by Terence McKenna — "The shaman is not merely a sick man, or a madman; he is a sick man who has healed himself" and once you have healed yourself when you see others struggling with problems that you once struggled with you want to reach out to them, to help them. I understand that just because it worked for me does not mean it will work for everybody, Nuevo am also very careful with who I choose to help, I Honolulu offer help to those who I know will get better. I am still of the opinion that any human can experience the transformation which I did, but as they are all unique it may not be achieved through the exact same methods, but it can be achieved.
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Shamanic abilities are generally brought on by a personal crisis, such as illness or sudden shock. Where this is not naturally forthcoming, initiations designed to produce the effects of such a state are used to bring about re-birth as a shaman. The shaman sees through everything, dies and is reborn, suffers the pangs of the world, and sees into its darkest corners. The near-death of initiation is common to shamans the world over and a metaphor for their experiences. Afterwards, they are never the same; everything has changed for them. They have known total knowledge and, to a degree according to their skills and strengths, have permanent access to it from that moment on. ( -shamanism bible; mathwes )
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Part of the thing I found with hanging with shamans in various places and times is that once you get past the language barrier, what shamans are are simply curious people. Intellectuals of a certain type. In Australian aboriginal slang, a shaman is called a “clever fellow”. If someone says “I’m a clever fellow”, they mean, you know, I’m a shaman. Well, that’s all it is – it’s somebody who pays attention to how things actually work, and sort of transcends the culture by that means. It’s a weird paradox. It’s that the shamans, who are the keepers of the cultural values, are also necessarily the keepers of the secrets of the theatrics of the cultural values, and so they live their lives in the light of the knowledge that it all rests on showbiz. You know, everybody else is a true believer, but these are the image-makers, the people who actually pull the strings and control the evolution of the mythologies. And in a way, it’s a situation of alienation. -Terence McKenna
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Even in traditional societies, the shaman is central to the social functioning, and the health, and so forth – but is never allowed to be physically central. There is a leader, a head man or something; the shaman lives off at the edge of the village, sometimes off in the woods; he is approached with fear and trembling; he is loathed and respected, and feared and loved, because it is understood that he represents a dimension that nevertheless must be tolerated, because it is the channel through which knowledge, and healing, and higher values, come. -terence mckenna
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the shaman is socially marginal, politically marginal, lives at the edge of the village, and so forth and so on, and is feared by the people, because dealings with the shaman are always dealings about life and death. But then the shaman comes forward in this critical role, as go-between, as mediator, between the cultural mind and the real world, which is this potent set of forces and planetary cycles and meteorological events and diseases and, you know, fate; and the shaman mediates. In many languages, the word for shaman means “go-between”. So the cost of this, or the price of this, for the shaman himself, or herself, is a kind of alienation from the cultural values, and a kind of understanding that it’s a game that’s kept in play. -terence mckenna
Those who know me understand why I chose those excerpts, and Will agree that it's fitting, whether I like it or not it is my karma to play this role.
Any way, sorry for getting off track, I am adding this film to my list.
·Humano (2013; Director: Alan Stivelman )
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Just watched "dirty wars", interesting stuff.
Also watched "Zeitgeist: The Movie", well, I watched most of it, but the whole time I kept thinking "shouldn't all this stuff be obvious?" Most people wouldn't need this movie to figure any of this stuff out. I'm not saying everything was accurate either, but even the things which were inaccurate or conspiracy theory type material were still obvious ideas, I mean anybody who put thought into the situation probably would have had similar thoughts, even if it was only a consideration of possibilities which was then dismissed. The ideas are not necessarily bad, but the movie was not to my taste at all...
One thing that these movies brought to my mind for one reason or another: does anybody think it's strange that they dumped bin laden's body in the ocean? If anybody in the future ever wanted to confirm that the body was in fact bin laden they would not be able as it was thrown in the ocean. it's not something I generally think about, but that "dirty wars" documentary outlined the JSOC ( The Joint Special Operations Command ), and the controversy related to their actions, at one point the Osama raid was outlined, simultaneously the strangeness of the conclusion to that situation sunk in, I'm not saying there is a conspiracy theory there (though I'm sure it could make a good one, if it has not already) I was just thinking "how strange".
Any way, I will add "dirty wars" to my movies list. (Not really wanting to go into much detail, it's not really subject matter which I would normally watch, but it does offer a glimpse into parts of war which one would generally never know about otherwise.
Also watched "drone" a 2014 documentary regarding drone warfare, again, not my typical subject matter as far as film goes, but this was actually a decent film outlining modern day drone warfare and it's implications and consequences.
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Latest list:
1. Dr. Strangelove 2. 2001: A Space Odyssey 3. Apocalypse Now 4. Citizen Kane 5. The Treasure of the Sierra Madre 6. The Godfather 7. The Bridge on the River Kwai 8. The Shining 9. Eraserhead 10. Taxi Driver 11. Chinatown 12. The Searchers 13. The Silence of the Lambs 14. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest 15. The Exorcist 16. The Conversation 17. The Lady from Shanghai 18. The Thin Red Line 19. The Man Who Would Be King 20. Barry Lyndon 21. No Country for Old Men 22. Goodfellas 23. There Will Be Blood 24. Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me/The Return 25. The Tree of Life
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1990: The Bronx Warriors The Big Lebowski The Blues Brothers Blade Runner Samurai Cop 3 Fantastic Supermen V for Vendetta Paprika Eternal Sunshine For The Spotless Mind Adaptation Shaolin Drunkard The Maltese Falcon Sabata Arizona Dream Iron Monkey Get Crazy Blueberry/Renegade The Last Temptation of Christ Alphaville The Fifth Element The Adventures of Baron Munchausen Monty Python and The Holy Grail The City of Lost Children Faster Pussycat! Kill! Kill! Picasso Trigger Keoma House (1977) Lost Highway Boondock Saints Coonskin Dolemite 2: The Human Tornado Repo Man Life Aquatic Fear and Loathing In Las Vegas Man Bites Dog Kung Fu Hustle I'll Take You There 25th Hour 200 Motels Loaded Weapon Pt. 1 Broken Flowers The Wizard of Oz Johnny Suede Big Fish Love Actually Run Ronnie Run Rat Race A Chinese Ghost Story Big Trouble In Little China Donnie Darko Deathrace 2000 The Demolitionist They Live Rubber God Bless America Galaxina Danger Diabolik The Serpent and The Rainbow Hellzapoppin! Highlander 2 Demon Cop Class of Nuke 'Em High The Crow Encino Man Meet the Hollowheads The Demolitionist Hair High Ninja Terminator The Vampire Lovers The Stuff Master of the Flying Guillotine Demon Wind
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Some great ones in there.
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Donnie Darko is always a favourite
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Yeah. Love how he wakes up on a golf course. Done that coming back from visiting the wonderful city of Boise and it was near it but couldn't find it so just slept on it. Pretty comfortable.
This movie I though was dumb but God I couldn't stop laughing at this scene. Just one of those like about the janitors that is just, people on the shroomery and midnight screenings would get it. Those not on any substances would find it dull. . Ever wonder why Fear and Loathing was a flop at the box office? Strange how life works that way. So here are a few clips of both.
If you don't laugh at these, God, is the main reason I come to the shroomery is to laugh during the year of covid and is boring as hell. Running joke with friends. High five, come give me a high five. Weird shake. High five, well why do you want a high five? Come here and give me a high five like men do. In this idiotic, all the actors are at a level but she is the stupidest, high pitched voiced woman. Ask a question, high five on puppet strings as a cardboard box. The bubbles are just for copyright and not in the movie.
The other one is Seattle at that time with the janitors and the generation X experimenting with them with experimental laced cookies, not edibles and it has the greatest fireworks scene I have ever watched in a movie. I hated those cubicles and I get why he finally loses it and quits and smashes her cell phone. Plus the whole opening credits of a tossed bottle out to sea that goes on forever and what it reads, I won't spoil it but, good set-up. Short and sweet.
Not shilling but on youtube all I could find was the trailer. If you have Prime get fucked up and watch it. Or rent it. Is amusing. Just wait for the fireworks scene if you are a psychedelic. You will get it. The actual fireworks, not the sparkler..
Love it when he goes to the E.R. has no health insurance from his previous job he quit, and he the doctor laughs at him for coming in for eating to many cookies and abdominal cramps and hallucinations. And charges him 1,100 for the visit. Yes the medical system in the States.
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Re: Favorite Movies [Re: Barnaby] 3
#26940440 - 09/17/20 10:06 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Goodfellas The Godfather The Deer Hunter Chinatown Dog Day Afternoon Taxi Driver Blue Velvet Dr Strangelove Apocalypse Now Godfather II Psycho Mystic River The Hustler Reservoir Dogs The Right Stuff There Will Be Blood The Usual Suspects LA Confidential Who's Afraid of Virginia Wolfe Network Bonnie and Clyde The Maltese Falcon Patton Diva The Dirty Dozen Michael Clayton The Last Picture Show True Romance A Fish Called Wanda The Verdict
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Can't disagree with a single one of those.
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A proper list indeed
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Re: Favorite Movies [Re: Dilsnique] 2
#27685660 - 03/06/22 10:26 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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There are some good flicks in this thread. Here are mine
Videodrome Boxers Omen Prospero's Books and 8/2 women by Greenaway Third part of the night and The Devil both by Zulawski The Warriors The Terminator Pink Floyd the wall The Thing The Manson family (Jim Van Bebber) Schramm Taxidermia Berlin Alaxanderplatz (fassbinder) The Wicker Man (1973) Holy Mountain Only Lovers Left Alive House (1977) Sorcerer Cruising Izo Return of the Living Dead Dancer in the dark Goodfellas Dr Caligari (1989) Dawn of the dead Kill lIst Boogie Nights Faust (1994) Funeral parade of roses & Dogura Magura both by Matsumoto Style Wars Serbian film Life and death of a porno gang The Lure Horrors of Malformed men Tetsuo the iron man and Gemini by Shin'ya Tsukamoto Pink Narcisssus visions of suffering (directors cut) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5914496/ mother and black swan Aronofsky piano tuner of earthquakes Titus Johnny got his gun wayward cloud hitler a film from germany fellini satryicon arabian nights sweet movie suspiria escape from NY in a glass cage performance scarface blacktight killers wake in fright leolo american werewolf in london teror firmer violent cop Mulholland Drive Martin the street fighter fitzcarraldo Birds Orphans and fools Clockwork orange Blade runner holy mountain, el topo and santa sangre memories of murder legend of suram fortress ex drummer oldboy mandy haxan kingdom of crooked mirrors fargo Spider (1992) Robocop all that jazz The apple bad boy bubby annie hall planet of the vampires house of a thousand corpses creepshow dressed to kill
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Awesome list.
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Agreed. Excellent list. Now i see where you got your screen name 
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Re: Favorite Movies [Re: lavod] 2
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My extensive favorite movie list would be dominated by the works ov Derek Jarman, Gregg Araki, Emir Kusturica, and Sam Peckinpah.
Black Cat, White Cat
I watched black cat, white cat last night fuking great movie, this song will be stuck in my head forever
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Glad you enjoyed it .
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Re: Favorite Movies [Re: lavod] 1
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I never gave The Pianist a chance because of Polanski but finally did a few weeks back because I feel like I have seen everything else that is good.
It is an absolute masterpiece. I didn't think it would be possible for a movie to crack my top 5 but it does easily.
Just go in as blind to the story as possible. It is unbelievably good.
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Off the top of my elbow,
In no particular order,
Heat Goodfellas Raging Bull Taxi Driver First Blood (Rambo: First Blood) The Godfather The Godfather Part 2 The Big Lebowski Donnie Darko Carlito's Way The Dollars Trilogy, starring C. Eastwood Reservoir Dogs Inglorious Basterds Pulp Fiction Once Upon a Time in Hollywood Terminator 2: Judgement Day The Terminator Brokeback Mountain Thief Collateral High Noon The Unforgiven
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Pulp Fiction
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Reservoir Dogs. This scene still gives me a rush watching it. Have been carjacked before and a gun to the ribs. That is real. Remember, this is just a movie. Fucking L.A.
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Re: Favorite Movies [Re: Barnaby] 1
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Dirty Rotten Scoundrels (from 1988 directed by Frank Oz starring Steve Martin, Michael Caine & Glenne Headly) has always been one of my favorite fun movies.
I recently learned it was a remake of the Marlon Brando, David Niven, Shirley Jones film "Bedtime Story" released in 1964. I purchased the DVD (manufactured in 2021 by Kino Lorber - the picture quality is outstanding) and really enjoyed it. The ending is a bit different than DRS
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William Hurt died recently and the obits mainly mentioned Altered States, Broadcast News, and The Big Chill. I don't think the first two are very good and The Big Chill is an ensemble cast.
He made two movies that are among my very favorites, Gorky Park and Body Heat.
He also appeared in Billy Bob Thornton's series, Goliath.
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He was excellent in Dark City
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Recently watched The Gentleman on Netflix and I loved the movie. Highly recommend. The only thing I would like to mention is the importance of vpn when using all the streaming services. Here is there is good list of them for kodi for example. Hope it will be useful for someone else too.
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Maverick. Best move of the year! Best movie Oscar! Best Scientoligist! I am a Mormon so, still a great movie. It as weird as that religion. But so much different.
FLEE! They do from Tom.
Leaving Las Vegas
Roadhouse
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
Braveheart
Dodgeball, with Vince and Ben. For those who grew up in the 80's and threw a rubber ball at a girls face during recess and it was OK! That made me laugh. Still does. JOHNNY LOVES CHACHI!
Dumb and Dumber
Animal House. My advice, Belushi handing him a six pack, drink more.
Airplane
More into streaming shows now. Just finished the Boys, great ending to the season. Ozarks, well done. AND OF COURSE INCLUDED WITH MY PRIME SUBSCRIPTION! The show that shall never be named or watched. Take one's best guess at a billion dollars for certain rights and production.
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Zardoz is a good one. Weird, but they just don't make them like that anymore.
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Re: Favorite Movies [Re: Koenraad]
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Some movies off the top of my head that I really enjoyed are Good Time starring Robert Pattinson The Baader-Meinhof Complex City of God Hummingbird (2013)
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I'm a big horror fan, Halloween are all time best but the newer ones that are coming out are insane with how f'd up they can get
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I recently watched "You Can't Take It with You" (1938) directed by Frank Capra starring Jean Arthur, Lionel Barrymore, Jimmy Stewart and Edward Arnold. I had never heard of it and had no expectations, other than it is a classified as a comedy. 20 minutes into the film I suspected it might become one of my favorite films ever, and I was correct. It's a comedy but has a lot of dense material I found deeply meaningful.
The movie is based on a comedic play written in three acts by George S. Kaufman & Moss Hart. The original production of the play premiered on Broadway (1936) and ran for 838 performances. It won the 1937 Pulitzer Prize for Drama.
There's a 1984 version of the play on YouTube that I've not yet watched. It's free. It stars Jason Robards, James Coco, Elizabeth Wilson, Colleen Dewhurst and Alice Sycamore. I did skip thru it to take a peek, and it's a lot different than the 1938 movie.
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RJ Tubs 202 said: I recently watched "You Can't Take It with You" (1938) directed by Frank Capra starring Jean Arthur, Lionel Barrymore, Jimmy Stewart and Edward Arnold. I had never heard of it and had no expectations, other than it is a classified as a comedy. 20 minutes into the film I suspected it might become one of my favorite films ever, and I was correct. It's a comedy but has a lot of dense material I found deeply meaningful.
I had recently downloaded this as it won best picture that year and I am trying to watch all the best pictures. I read your review before watching and I agree its fantastic. That house was like some 30's version of a hippie commune. The always dancing sister died in 2004 but just before that she played the landlady in David Lynch's Mulholland Drive
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