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AstralAndrew
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Re: Is it true mushrooms at high doses are similar to DMT [Re: AstralAndrew]
#24031103 - 01/22/17 04:43 PM (7 years, 8 days ago) |
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AuroraBorealis88 said: There's multiple definitions for the word profound, for example if you say a drug produces "profound changes in consciousness" then yes in that sense it means powerful but when someone says their last mushroom or LSD trip was "so profound" they usually mean meaningful.
To me profound means important and/or deeply meaningful, I never really use it in place for the word powerful or strong.
You missed the second definition btw: "Having or showing great knowledge or insight."
Point is, you're attempting to define an experience that transcends language.
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AuroraBorealis88
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Re: Is it true mushrooms at high doses are similar to DMT [Re: AstralAndrew]
#24031116 - 01/22/17 04:47 PM (7 years, 8 days ago) |
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How does that contradict or counter anything I've said? You're debating an idea that doesn't exist. No one ever said or even implied that it was Englishable. In fact its unenglishability is already implied from the start.
You're not telling us anything we don't already know not to mention you straight up lied and said that I was trying to "define the experience".
Edited by AuroraBorealis88 (01/22/17 04:48 PM)
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The Grateful One
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Re: Is it true mushrooms at high doses are similar to DMT [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
#24031630 - 01/22/17 07:27 PM (7 years, 8 days ago) |
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DMT is awe-inspiring, powerful, profound, ineffable...but it doesn't mean that it is any more beneficial than any other psychedelic experience. Anyone can dose a substance, have a mind blowing time, and come out the other side the exact same human who went into it. No changes whatsoever.
It is more about how you interpret and integrate the experience into your everyday life. These substances are tools to look into yourself, they don't do the work on their own. That is like going to a construction site, laying a hammer on some wood, leaving, and then coming back expecting a house to be built by the next day.
DMT and mushrooms are different beasts that live in the same household, which deserve their own interpretation and respect. To compare the two is difficult, but not impossible.
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AuroraBorealis88
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Re: Is it true mushrooms at high doses are similar to DMT [Re: The Grateful One]
#24031750 - 01/22/17 08:01 PM (7 years, 8 days ago) |
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I never said they change you and yes I use that analogy as well about 2 beasts in the same home. I didn't know other people used that analogy too lol.
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pineninja
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Re: Is it true mushrooms at high doses are similar to DMT [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
#24032126 - 01/22/17 10:39 PM (7 years, 8 days ago) |
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milktruck said: striking similarities, even more striking differences.

Similar because your tripping but DMT once experienced could not with a straight face be compared to shrooms.
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shroomiin
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Re: Is it true mushrooms at high doses are similar to DMT [Re: pineninja]
#24032245 - 01/23/17 12:04 AM (7 years, 8 days ago) |
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sure, i took a full 28grams one time... which was pretty irresponsible when looking back. Long story short, i lost my vision completely... nothing i was seeing was actually there... compared to a normal shroom trip where visuals are just distorted or smudgey. I laid in a bed for hours and all i recollect was a black space with images of egyptian themed shapes flying at me over a rainbow... sphynx, pyramids, etc.
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mctaveesh
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Re: Is it true mushrooms at high doses are similar to DMT [Re: shroomiin]
#24032387 - 01/23/17 01:48 AM (7 years, 8 days ago) |
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I LOVE that feeling after DMT where you lay there forever trying to wrap your mind around it and getting hit with tons of new ideas and information
Just tripped an hour ago and it took me a half hour or something to even realize I was a human being again I loveeee my old friend DMT. 
I've had only ONE mushroom trip on about 7-8 grams that could match with the DMT trips I've had.
That was my first Tryptamine trip ever though so i think it coulda been because of that that made it strong
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Re: Is it true mushrooms at high doses are similar to DMT [Re: mctaveesh]
#24032464 - 01/23/17 03:47 AM (7 years, 7 days ago) |
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You ate 7-8 grams your first time? Damn.......
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Re: Is it true mushrooms at high doses are similar to DMT [Re: shroomiin] 1
#24032866 - 01/23/17 09:53 AM (7 years, 7 days ago) |
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shroomiin said: sure, i took a full 28grams one time... which was pretty irresponsible when looking back. Long story short, i lost my vision completely... nothing i was seeing was actually there... compared to a normal shroom trip where visuals are just distorted or smudgey. I laid in a bed for hours and all i recollect was a black space with images of egyptian themed shapes flying at me over a rainbow... sphynx, pyramids, etc.
Even on low doses you can go to places like that if you relax and let your mind wonder. I remember one time on ~2g I was laying on the couch and I closed my eyes and suddenly I was looking up at some intricate aztec looking structure, it was an arch or a wall or something. It was engraved with the most beautiful patterns, I could feel the sun coming down from the canopy, etc, it was very real. I think actually on that same trip later on, near the end of it, I was staring off into my room and my vision was kind of faded away and some other... I don't know, something very large, cosmic, started coming into focus as if it was always there and I just had to look *through* reality to see it, as if reality were a foggy vapor and this 'true' reality is right there. I suddenly got very scared as if looking into the face of god and spent the rest of the night coming to terms with that.
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mctaveesh
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Re: Is it true mushrooms at high doses are similar to DMT [Re: Dark_Star]
#24033536 - 01/23/17 03:25 PM (7 years, 7 days ago) |
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Dark_Star said: You ate 7-8 grams your first time? Damn.......
Yeah I only had bad trips before that one on LSD and 2CB. So I was just like fuck it I'll take a shit ton of a stronger Psychedelic and force myself to get through it. And it worked!
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Beanerby
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Re: Is it true mushrooms at high doses are similar to DMT [Re: mctaveesh]
#24058972 - 02/01/17 11:08 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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If you want the DMT experience on shrooms use 6g dried with one fresh lemons worth of juice with just enough boiling water so all the contents fit in your mug, liquidize the whole lot in blender until pretty smooth(I always use organic lemons and normally add a little organic orange squash to sweeten), let it brew for 5 mins then drink it fairly quick.
WARNING fear factor 10, only try this if you're super experienced with high doses or DMT.
Comes on extremely quickly, recommend playing your worst trip out in the mind as soon as you drink it, otherwise it's hard to deal with the initial come up.
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AstralAndrew
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Re: Is it true mushrooms at high doses are similar to DMT [Re: Beanerby]
#24059326 - 02/02/17 04:58 AM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Beanerby said: If you want the DMT experience on shrooms use 6g dried with one fresh lemons worth of juice with just enough boiling water so all the contents fit in your mug, liquidize the whole lot in blender until pretty smooth(I always use organic lemons and normally add a little organic orange squash to sweeten), let it brew for 5 mins then drink it fairly quick.
WARNING fear factor 10, only try this if you're super experienced with high doses or DMT.
Comes on extremely quickly, recommend playing your worst trip out in the mind as soon as you drink it, otherwise it's hard to deal with the initial come up.
Why would you think of your worst trip while your coming up on mushrooms? That's a recipe for another bad trip especially at a high dose like that lol.
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Beanerby
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Re: Is it true mushrooms at high doses are similar to DMT [Re: AstralAndrew]
#24059335 - 02/02/17 05:08 AM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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It actually works believe it or not, I learnt it from one of Mckenna's talks.
go to 13:18
Edited by Beanerby (02/02/17 05:10 AM)
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