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Re: Is it true mushrooms at high doses are similar to DMT [Re: The Grateful One]
    #24027424 - 01/21/17 06:16 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

Very distinct and different experiences IMHO.


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Re: Is it true mushrooms at high doses are similar to DMT [Re: TheHumungus]
    #24027430 - 01/21/17 06:35 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

striking similarities, even more striking differences.

DMT feels very natural and human-based to me if that makes sense....

Mushrooms might as well be a hyper-intelligent extra-terrestrial the way it works in my brain :lol: They have a very technological/sci-fi vibe to me

closest i ever got to dmt by way of mushroom was 4 grams of Gymnopilus luteofolius and a teaspoon of ground syrian rue. which i guess works *kind of* like an ayahuasca analogue


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Re: Is it true mushrooms at high doses are similar to DMT [Re: milktruck]
    #24027705 - 01/21/17 09:38 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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DMT feels very natural and human-based to me if that makes sense....




Please explain.

I mean you kind of already did but do you mean it feels less cosmic and less sic-fi than psilocybin? Like more intrinsic and ancillary maybe? More earthbound? I hear ayahuasca is definitely more earthbound than mushrooms but never heard that about smoked DMT.


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Re: Is it true mushrooms at high doses are similar to DMT [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #24027902 - 01/21/17 11:01 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

10g did hardly anything for me, just a bit of mild swirling visuals and numbness :justdontknow:


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Re: Is it true mushrooms at high doses are similar to DMT [Re: acidninja]
    #24027927 - 01/21/17 11:07 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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10g did hardly anything for me, just a bit of mild swirling visuals and numbness :justdontknow:




Was this fresh? Your post from earlier kind of contradicts this.


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Re: Is it true mushrooms at high doses are similar to DMT [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #24027935 - 01/21/17 11:08 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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milktruck said:
DMT feels very natural and human-based to me if that makes sense....




Please explain.

I mean you kind of already did but do you mean it feels less cosmic and less sic-fi than psilocybin? Like more intrinsic and ancillary maybe? More earthbound? I hear ayahuasca is definitely more earthbound than mushrooms but never heard that about smoked DMT.




I simply dont get the "alien" DMT experiences, thats about it, it feels like something VERY natural for a human to experience and feels extremely familiar when i smoke it.

I dont get that with mushrooms, mushrooms feel to me as if im communicating with a separate entity all together that doesnt seem to care much whether i understand it or not.


When i smoke DMT it comes a long with implicit recognitions, and familiarity with the experiences i get, that's all i mean by more human, it feels like its a part of my own being when i smoke it, mushrooms feel like im experiencing the consciousness of something else entirely. Very similar in high doses to DMT in terms of visual geometry and , but the differences have always impressed me more than the similarities.

I dont mean earthbound like ayahuasca, i literally mean DMT feels human to me.


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Re: Is it true mushrooms at high doses are similar to DMT [Re: milktruck] * 1
    #24027947 - 01/21/17 11:11 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

Oh okay I see ya I assume this is because DMT is a human metabolite and likely a human neurotransmitter so your body and brain certainly recognize it.


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Re: Is it true mushrooms at high doses are similar to DMT [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #24027974 - 01/21/17 11:18 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

my thoughts exactly...


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Re: Is it true mushrooms at high doses are similar to DMT [Re: milktruck]
    #24028068 - 01/21/17 12:02 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

It looks like most of you are talking about smoked dmt.  How does mushroom tea and ayahusca compare?


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Re: Is it true mushrooms at high doses are similar to DMT [Re: Amanita86]
    #24028120 - 01/21/17 12:26 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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It looks like most of you are talking about smoked dmt.  How does mushroom tea and ayahusca compare?




That's what I've been wondering but from what I've heard they seem quite different because of the harmala alkaloids. From the way people describe it mushrooms almost sounds closer to the DMT flash than what people experience in ayahuasca.


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Re: Is it true mushrooms at high doses are similar to DMT [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #24028297 - 01/21/17 02:03 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

Has anyone heard the mushroom speak to them? people report having a dialogue with it but i never had such a thing.


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Re: Is it true mushrooms at high doses are similar to DMT [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #24028330 - 01/21/17 02:18 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

It could be. You must learn to pay attention. Only odd thing is people keep saying they try decent doses but nothing happens.

With them, you could get a heavy body effect and maybe just fall asleep. On the other hand they could make you feel stoned without the feeling of having smoked something.

McKenna said the dose you want is 5 dried grams.

The active ingredient in mushrooms (psilocybin) is certainly similar to DMT. I think they can be similar under the right mindset and set & setting; etc but you have to get lucky. The trips might not always be the same. Pay attention and just relax... It's like how the beginning stages of acid can be similar prior to blasting off on DMT.


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Re: Is it true mushrooms at high doses are similar to DMT [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #24028359 - 01/21/17 02:36 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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Has anyone heard the mushroom speak to them? people report having a dialogue with it but i never had such a thing.



Nope, but I've had the 'salvia people' that usually hang out in our peripheral vision step out into view and talk to me before.


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Re: Is it true mushrooms at high doses are similar to DMT [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #24028422 - 01/21/17 03:08 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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Has anyone heard the mushroom speak to them? people report having a dialogue with it but i never had such a thing.




No but I have felt the presence of the mushroom itself and I can feel its emotions and intentions entering my mind and awareness. I've heard McKenna before say that psilocybin is the only major or traditional psychedelic that actually has a voice but I never experienced it, he did say though that you must invoke it and I never tried. I didn't hear about this voice thing until after I stopped taking mushrooms.

The only voices and audible language I got from mushrooms was people or creatures speaking in glossolalia and bizarre tongues, snoring (outside of myself), hyperdimensional alien chatter and entities laughing.
The mushroom presence itself never spoke to me though. It's hard to tell whether or not the mushroom entity is shy or just tasteful.


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Re: Is it true mushrooms at high doses are similar to DMT [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #24028748 - 01/21/17 05:32 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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Has anyone heard the mushroom speak to them? people report having a dialogue with it but i never had such a thing.




I never hear a "voice in my head" like T Mckenna talks about, but every time I do mushrooms or 4-Aco-DMT, I always end up speaking uncontrollably. As long as I take a high enough dose.

McKenna used to say that mushrooms will talk to you and teach you by speaking to you. For me, it's always been myself speaking to myself. Like I lose control over my own voice and can't control what i say.

But I do learn things from mushrooms that way. Like I'm speaking to my own self.

I don't get the uncontrollable speaking/glossolalia thing from any other Psychedelics.


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Re: Is it true mushrooms at high doses are similar to DMT [Re: mctaveesh]
    #24028802 - 01/21/17 05:47 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

A large is 10g+. A high dose is like 20g+. I know a guy who ate a pound.

To answer the question. Yes. Large and high doses will skyrocket you off into infinity and beyond. Not exactly all it's cracked up to be I'm afraid. 20g is more than some people would even consider. A high dose is a high dose... more than even the so called psychonauts would dare.

Eat a pound, and you'll get where you're going in no time.


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Re: Is it true mushrooms at high doses are similar to DMT [Re: LRG]
    #24028852 - 01/21/17 06:18 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

A pound of mushrooms? Volume wise I can't even eat that much food, how and why would he possibly eat that much? Even making tea and drinking it would be a challenge. A pound is about 4 gallon ziplock bags stuffed with mushrooms.


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Re: Is it true mushrooms at high doses are similar to DMT [Re: mctaveesh]
    #24028878 - 01/21/17 06:32 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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Has anyone heard the mushroom speak to them? people report having a dialogue with it but i never had such a thing.




I never hear a "voice in my head" like T Mckenna talks about, but every time I do mushrooms or 4-Aco-DMT, I always end up speaking uncontrollably. As long as I take a high enough dose.

McKenna used to say that mushrooms will talk to you and teach you by speaking to you. For me, it's always been myself speaking to myself. Like I lose control over my own voice and can't control what i say.

But I do learn things from mushrooms that way. Like I'm speaking to my own self.

I don't get the uncontrollable speaking/glossolalia thing from any other Psychedelics.





Yeah its something i always wanted to have happen but it just never did :shrug:

Mckenna really makes it seem like the mushroom is a legit mind of in itself. I want to get the point i talk to it and receive information from it.

Mckenna atleast has some dialogue he shared with us from the mushroom. One that comes to mind is "if you dont have a plan, you become part of somebody else's plan"

but as i said here many times i have had information given to me VIA the TV on LSD+weed..but never ever a voice


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Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
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Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


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Re: Is it true mushrooms at high doses are similar to DMT [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #24029009 - 01/21/17 07:34 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

It might be more metaphorical, such as the mushroom trying to speak to you through visions or any insights gained, something more like an "inner voice" perhaps.


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Re: Is it true mushrooms at high doses are similar to DMT [Re: krypto2000]
    #24029668 - 01/22/17 04:59 AM (7 years, 8 days ago)

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A pound of mushrooms? Volume wise I can't even eat that much food, how and why would he possibly eat that much? Even making tea and drinking it would be a challenge. A pound is about 4 gallon ziplock bags stuffed with mushrooms.




16oz in a pound. They have 24oz steaks at your local restaurants. It can be done, it's just not advised.

How and why? I'm not sure why. To go where no man has gone before?

Tea would be the easiest way. No synthetic stuff. It has to be 100% natural. Also I'm pretty sure you'd die. I mean... a fucking pound? Like you gotta be fucking bonkers to even think about trying an ounce. A POUND?!?!?!?!


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