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Americans: is this an issue for you?
    #24025908 - 01/20/17 03:14 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

The US Mint has struck a gold coin in honor of its 225 year anniversary, featuring Lady Liberty in the standard $100 face value. Here it is:






Unusual about this coin is that Lady Liberty is portrayed by the US Mint as a black woman.

Americans, is this an issue for you? A lot of people were quite upset with this for various reasons.

Vote, and discuss.


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A Black Lady Liberty, Officially! Americans - how do you feel about this?
You may choose only one


Votes accepted from (01/20/17 06:14 AM) to (No end specified)
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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: Asante] * 4
    #24025910 - 01/20/17 03:14 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

Mythological archetypes come in all forms.


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: PatrickKn]
    #24025914 - 01/20/17 03:16 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

blacks didn't have myths before da white man.










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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: PatrickKn]
    #24025915 - 01/20/17 03:16 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

I dont see any black Woman ova heeaahh mhmm mm mm


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: Asante]
    #24025918 - 01/20/17 03:17 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

No but I'm genuinely curious to hear why anyone would think it is.


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: PatrickKn]
    #24025920 - 01/20/17 03:18 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

I voted "I'm NOT an American" because it's not my archetype so its an American matter, but I think its a good idea, personally. Liberty, in my view, has no race, so its OK to give it many faces.


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: Asante]
    #24025931 - 01/20/17 03:22 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

How do you know it's a black woman?


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: DustyBottoms]
    #24025937 - 01/20/17 03:23 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

You can tell by looking, and the US Mint has specifically declared the intent to do so.


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: Asante]
    #24025943 - 01/20/17 03:26 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

Quote:

Asante said:
I voted "I'm NOT an American" because it's not my archetype so its an American matter, but I think its a good idea, personally. Liberty, in my view, has no race, so its OK to give it many faces.



The Lady Liberty archetype is older than it's American iteration. Goes back to the Egyptian goddess Isis that I'm aware of, and probably further back than that.


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: PatrickKn]
    #24025950 - 01/20/17 03:28 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

i voted "i dont care either way"


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: PatrickKn]
    #24025952 - 01/20/17 03:28 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

It is yes, but in this guise its American symbolism, as much as the Bald Eagle is.


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: Asante] * 2
    #24025965 - 01/20/17 03:33 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

It's an ok looking design but the star headband thing is a bit corny looking. I like the "tails" side better.


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: psi] * 4
    #24025980 - 01/20/17 03:39 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

why would it be an issue? lol at asante trying his best to bait all the racist white americans so he can ban them. inauguration's got him triggered.


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: mt cleverest]
    #24025988 - 01/20/17 03:41 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

17% doesn't like it.


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: Asante]
    #24025989 - 01/20/17 03:41 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

Inserting race into everything is nauseating


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: Asante]
    #24025997 - 01/20/17 03:43 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

Quote:

Asante said:
It is yes, but in this guise its American symbolism, as much as the Bald Eagle is.



Right, but you asked if it was an issue for me. Doesn't bother me that mythological symbols older than most nations today gets a remix.

It's a little different for instance from making a coin where there is a black man and you call him George Washington.


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #24026008 - 01/20/17 03:47 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

I only got alerted to this because of the controversy that ensued.


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: Asante]
    #24026013 - 01/20/17 03:48 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

Quote:

Asante said:
You can tell by looking, and the US Mint has specifically declared the intent to do so.





Looks alone would be grounds for making the situation racist so I'm glad they specified their intent.

But who gives a fuck either way


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: DustyBottoms] * 2
    #24026021 - 01/20/17 03:50 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

Quote:

DustyBottoms said:
Quote:

Asante said:
You can tell by looking, and the US Mint has specifically declared the intent to do so.





Looks alone would be grounds for making the situation racist so I'm glad they specified their intent.



To deny that people of different races have different facial features is willful ignorance, though I suppose it could be mistaken. Judging her race by her facial features and not the color of her skin does not make Asante racist for being able to tell though.


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: PatrickKn]
    #24026034 - 01/20/17 03:55 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

Give me a break. She has African facial features and African style braided hair.

Apart from the mint's stated intent, ANYONE can tell her ethnicity.

Willful ignorance.


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: Asante]
    #24026045 - 01/20/17 03:57 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

I don't give a crap either way, could be a fat Mexican making tacos for all I care.


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: Asante] * 2
    #24026051 - 01/20/17 03:58 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

Quote:

Asante said:
The US Mint has struck a gold coin in honor of its 225 year anniversary, featuring Lady Liberty in the standard $100 face value. Here it is:






Unusual about this coin is that Lady Liberty is portrayed by the US Mint as a black woman.

Americans, is this an issue for you? A lot of people were quite upset with this for various reasons.

Vote, and discuss.


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The portrayal is not an an issue at all. 

I am not a fan of the "IN GOD WE TRUST" part.  That would be an issue, if I were to have an issue with that coin.


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: Asante]
    #24026054 - 01/20/17 03:58 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

Easy fellas. Not accusing anyone here of being racist.

But you can imagine the shit storm that would ensue if they didn't specify their intent of the woman's race.


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: DustyBottoms]
    #24026305 - 01/20/17 05:16 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

Given the history of the US, putting a black women on a coin labeled "Liberty" pretty much insults every African American. Only a white guy would come up with this. I can imagine black people being seriously offended by this.


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: Asante]
    #24026334 - 01/20/17 05:24 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

Quote:

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I only got alerted to this because of the controversy that ensued.




I can't find anything on it being controversial.


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: qman]
    #24026440 - 01/20/17 06:20 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

double post* shit, sorry.


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: qman]
    #24026444 - 01/20/17 06:23 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

there was a thread on it here, already, when it was first announced. the controversy was that there needed to be a black woman on there at all.

if i remember correctly, the first suggestion for the minting was Harriet Tubman- which was, again, part of the controversy.
she was to replace Andrew Jackson on some US bill.

did that end up happening, or was that idea scrapped, only to be nudged into this new coin?

i can't be sure. but this is what appears to be the case.


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #24026447 - 01/20/17 06:26 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

That chick is mint :thumbup: I'd buck the shit out of her.


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #24026498 - 01/20/17 06:49 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

Ikr :wellhellothere:

Bitchin coin tho :manofapproval:


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: zZZz] * 1
    #24026526 - 01/20/17 06:59 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

Im not American and I don't have anything against black people but lady liberty is clearly not black. It seems like just another way to appease black people


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: Patlal] * 4
    #24026538 - 01/20/17 07:03 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

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Given the history of the US, putting a black women on a coin labeled "Liberty" pretty much insults every African American. Only a white guy would come up with this. I can imagine black people being seriously offended by this.



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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: PatrickKn]
    #24026583 - 01/20/17 07:19 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

Was there controversy on this? Racial controversy? Who is lady liberty? Was she white?

I think black are part of a group that has gained much from America's dominance and freedoms

I see nothing wrong with this except the part about trying to make it controversial, aka race baiting


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: Asante] * 3
    #24026615 - 01/20/17 07:33 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

clearly that's a gold woman not a black one ya bunch of chauvinists


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: DustyBottoms]
    #24026650 - 01/20/17 07:55 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

Quote:

DustyBottoms said:
Quote:

Asante said:
You can tell by looking, and the US Mint has specifically declared the intent to do so.





Looks alone would be grounds for making the situation racist so I'm glad they specified their intent.




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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: hostileuniverse] * 2
    #24026655 - 01/20/17 07:57 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

I voted it's a good idea...we had a black president now we have a black person on a coin...we are on our way to true equality :wink:


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: The Influence]
    #24026665 - 01/20/17 08:05 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

I don't think it was necessary to change the face of lady liberty, but i am not upset. Just don't change lady justice.


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: Asante]
    #24026676 - 01/20/17 08:11 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

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Give me a break. She has African facial features and African style braided hair.

Apart from the mint's stated intent, ANYONE can tell her ethnicity.

Willful ignorance.




It looks like a God Damn gold coin me. If you hadn't stated she was black I would've never noticed.


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: Sanguin3]
    #24026825 - 01/20/17 09:23 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

Only thing I don't like is the star headband. Could have been made a little smaller.

And why did they make it a gold coin? Why not silver? Isn't that more traditional for liberty coins?

The Sacagawea coin was gold. Maybe the US mint is racist and only printing colored people on colored coins.


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: Asante]
    #24027224 - 01/21/17 01:18 AM (7 years, 10 days ago)

What about all the other races in North America, why don't they get a coin?


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    #24027229 - 01/21/17 01:22 AM (7 years, 10 days ago)

Honestly I don't care who they put on what coin or what dollar bill

They could put CowboyNeal on that shit for all I care


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    #24027236 - 01/21/17 01:28 AM (7 years, 10 days ago)

QFT... so long as it spends.


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: Niffla]
    #24027259 - 01/21/17 01:52 AM (7 years, 10 days ago)

Screw that from now on i only accept lady liberty coins.. :vato:


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: Asante]
    #24027265 - 01/21/17 01:57 AM (7 years, 10 days ago)

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Unusual about this coin is that Lady Liberty is portrayed by the US Mint as a black woman..





she appears to me to be a gold woman


you always talk about "here come the shroomery racists to ruin a thread" and yet a
shroomery racist has started this one, where are you to call yourself out race pimp


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: Asante]
    #24027281 - 01/21/17 02:18 AM (7 years, 10 days ago)

she looks more gold to me :shrug:


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: Asante]
    #24027329 - 01/21/17 03:38 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

Wow the first thing i thought was that the coin was beautiful. And in this day and age, yes this coin is absolutely what we need i am proud this is an american coin.


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    #24027335 - 01/21/17 03:45 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: Mad_Larkin] * 1
    #24027344 - 01/21/17 04:07 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

http://time.com/4301417/alexander-hamilton-harriet-tubman-20-bill-10-bill-controversy/

it's not important, it's a coin....

but if it's a bill, and it's the first time the media (ie, the shroomery, also) hears tell of a black woman being 'foisted' into our concern, for the fact of her replacing Jackson on a 10$ bill, then it's a bigger deal slightly.



but hey, change is good. i guess i shouldn't complain (but how people cannot see the flip-flopping is...typical. one moment it's controversial, the next it's not, because it suits a narrative. LOL)


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #24027400 - 01/21/17 05:42 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

Quote:

qman said:
Quote:

Asante said:
I only got alerted to this because of the controversy that ensued.




I can't find anything on it being controversial.





haha, comes to The Pub to start a race thread, Forum can't find anything to be controversial about.



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    #24027404 - 01/21/17 05:49 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

there already was a controversy, when Harriet Tubman was proposed to replace Andrew Jackson on the 10$ bill.


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #24027443 - 01/21/17 06:53 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

how much of that coin is actually gold? the price of gold is lot more than 100$ an ounce.


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: Chemical Addiction]
    #24027452 - 01/21/17 07:11 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

Coins like that sell for more than the face value. It would contain one troy ounce of gold, and probably some copper too for hardness.


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: akira_akuma] * 2
    #24027782 - 01/21/17 10:09 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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there already was a controversy, when Harriet Tubman was proposed to replace Andrew Jackson on the 10$ bill.




Thats probably because Andrew Jackson was a president and Tubman is on a syrup bottle

Whereas the lady liberty isnt a real person and theyre just changing her race in a tacky manner


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: Repertoire89] * 1
    #24027843 - 01/21/17 10:42 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

lady liberty is clearly Greek or roman. look at that shnozz


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: 404]
    #24027855 - 01/21/17 10:48 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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lady liberty is clearly Greek or roman. look at that shnozz





she's green and when properly cleaned she's copper, clearly she isnt even from this planet


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #24027857 - 01/21/17 10:48 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

that's missing the point.

there was already a controversy. that's the point. lady liberty replacing some other person, that's pretty much the same instance as switching one famous figure with another. you're saying it was because of Tubman's station as a marketing gimmick, is what made it controversial? i'd say it has to do with the fact that people thought her history wasn't prevalent enough to replace the old guy on a bill whom was there long enough, and given that who is on the bill is fucking unimportant crap, it shouldn't matter replacing him...but giving away the spot on the bill to a black woman to appease people's "sensibilities" = evil play of the race card to "win" the spot over the old coot that was there before.

people make a big controversy about stupid shit...but they make even bigger controversy over this particular breed of stupid shit.

so why? and how is that previous (& controversial) event any different from this one? why was that previous event controversial at all?

these are the questions one's gotta ask themselves when they think that replacing some old person with some other old person, on a bill, is so fucking important to people, when simply switching some people out for someone else is essentially the norm when it comes to societal boondoggles being given a human name & face.


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: 404] * 1
    #24027858 - 01/21/17 10:49 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

6/10  id cum on her cok


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #24027861 - 01/21/17 10:50 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

Youre making a big deal about people making a big deal about it :lol:


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #24027862 - 01/21/17 10:50 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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404 said:
lady liberty is clearly Greek or roman. look at that shnozz





she's green and when properly cleaned she's copper, clearly she isnt even from this planet




She's the Roman Godess Libertas.

You people need to learn about your country....


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #24027863 - 01/21/17 10:51 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

whatever Dodson. chill out, stop looking so conspicuous.


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: 404] * 2
    #24027865 - 01/21/17 10:51 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

I feel bad for countries who have nothing better to do than imagine divisive controversies here where none exist.

How many people of color are on European currencies? The answer is we don't care, because America.


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: Revok]
    #24027871 - 01/21/17 10:53 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

yes, entire countries are in on this tripe.


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #24027885 - 01/21/17 10:57 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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that's missing the point.

there was already a controversy. that's the point. lady liberty replacing some other person, that's pretty much the same instance as switching one famous figure with another. you're saying it was because of Tubman's station as a marketing gimmick? i'd say it has to do with the fact that people thought her history wasn't prevalent enough to replace the old guy on a bill whom was there long enough, and given that who is on the bill is fucking unimportant crap, it shouldn't matter replacing him...but giving away the spot on the bill to a black woman to appease people's "sensibilities" = evil play of the race card to "win" the spot over the old coot that was there before.

people make a big controversy about stupid shit...but they make even bigger controversy over this particular breed of stupid shit.

so why? and how is that previous (& controversial) event any different from this one? why was that previous event controversial at all?

these are the questions one's gotta ask themselves when they think that replacing some old person with some other old person, on a bill, is so fucking important to people, when simply switching some people out for someone else is essentially the norm when it comes to societal boondoggles being given a human name & face.





so what you and asante are saying are that you want to try and make something
racist where there is nothing racist. I personally would love to see jackson
removed from the $20, he was a warmongering democrat asshat that called for and
was responsible for a genocide on the indian people and needs to be properly
vilified along with the likes of hitler, stalin, pol pot and many others. it
doesnt matter to me if harriet tubman or the zebra from the fruit stripes gum
package is then placed on the bill as long as jackson is removed


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #24027890 - 01/21/17 10:58 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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lady liberty is clearly Greek or roman. look at that shnozz





she's green and when properly cleaned she's copper, clearly she isnt even from this planet




ur mom isn't even from this planet


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #24027895 - 01/21/17 11:00 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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so what you and asante are saying are that you want to try and make something
racist where there is nothing racist.



wrong. when did i say this was a race issue? i said it was a pointless controversy.

Quote:

I personally would love to see jackson
removed from the $20, he was a warmongering democrat asshat




cool, i agree...he was also a starkly racist fellow.

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it
doesnt matter to me if harriet tubman or the zebra from the fruit stripes gum
package is then placed on the bill as long as jackson is removed




then we're in agreement. :shrug:

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ur mom isn't even from this planet



but then again, on the plus side



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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: Patlal] * 2
    #24027901 - 01/21/17 11:00 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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Quote:

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lady liberty is clearly Greek or roman. look at that shnozz





she's green and when properly cleaned she's copper, clearly she isnt even from this planet




She's the Roman Godess Libertas.

You people need to learn about your country....





a roman goddess, so she's not of this earth


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #24027906 - 01/21/17 11:02 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

Patlal spends his days memorizing useless trivia about a country he doesnt live in


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    #24027914 - 01/21/17 11:04 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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Patlal spends his days memorizing useless trivia about a country he doesnt live in




Patlal has been to school and reads books. Patlal is smart.


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #24027917 - 01/21/17 11:04 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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so what you and asante are saying are that you want to try and make something
racist where there is nothing racist.



wrong. when did i say this was a race issue? i said it was a pointless controversy.






DO NOT TRY TO CLOUD THE ARGUMENT WITH FACTS!!!

now look at this money, it's full of people of color



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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #24027936 - 01/21/17 11:08 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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akira_akuma said:
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so what you and asante are saying are that you want to try and make something
racist where there is nothing racist.



wrong. when did i say this was a race issue? i said it was a pointless controversy.






DO NOT TRY TO CLOUD THE ARGUMENT WITH FACTS!!!

now look at this money, it's full of people of color






Gay Pride flag right there.


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: Patlal]
    #24027952 - 01/21/17 11:12 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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now look at this money, it's full of people of color






Gay Pride flag right there.




looks familiar chinaman



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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: Patlal]
    #24027955 - 01/21/17 11:13 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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Patlal spends his days memorizing useless trivia about a country he doesnt live in




Patlal has been to school and reads books. Patlal is smart.




Cats cant go to school, youre not foolin anyone


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #24027960 - 01/21/17 11:14 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

more racist people on bills. Duane approves.




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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #24027975 - 01/21/17 11:19 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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so what you and asante are saying are that you want to try and make something
racist where there is nothing racist.



wrong. when did i say this was a race issue? i said it was a pointless controversy.






DO NOT TRY TO CLOUD THE ARGUMENT WITH FACTS!!!

now look at this money, it's full of people of color







I think this one is supposed to be a black guy, I can tell by his facial features and hair.



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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #24027984 - 01/21/17 11:22 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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more racist people on bills. Duane approves.






this woman gets around











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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: psi]
    #24027985 - 01/21/17 11:22 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

black guy with a comb over?

never.

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more racist people on bills. Duane approves.






this woman gets around




she does own alot of countries- it's dat race trade that pays so well.


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: psi]
    #24027986 - 01/21/17 11:23 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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I think this one is supposed to be a black guy, I can tell by his facial features and hair.







lol...




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_A._Macdonald


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #24028000 - 01/21/17 11:29 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

Why doesnt our money have beautiful women folk on it, this is bullshit


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: Asante]
    #24028001 - 01/21/17 11:29 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

Im Ok with it, i voted.

it does look a bit odd, especially that weird starry headband. When i think of Lady Liberty as the Statue of Liberty (obviously), since its the biggest visual symbol.

Im all for a more racial diverse Lady Liberty.

But that starry headband is tacky.


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: Repertoire89] * 2
    #24028010 - 01/21/17 11:32 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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Why doesnt our money have beautiful women folk on it, this is bullshit



Oh, but it does. Check out this sexy lady:



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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: Repertoire89] * 1
    #24028014 - 01/21/17 11:34 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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Why doesnt our money have beautiful women folk on it, this is bullshit





because our money is used to obtain beautiful women folk


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    #24028088 - 01/21/17 12:11 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

supermodels on money :rofl:

Thatd be weird.


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #24028095 - 01/21/17 12:15 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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supermodels on money :rofl:

Thatd be weird.





now that trump is in office it may be the norm


of course it will make saving money easier for men and instead of cocaine residue on the bills...



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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: Asante]
    #24028480 - 01/21/17 03:36 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

Looks pretty American to me. :thumbup:


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Re: Americans: is this an issue for you? [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #24040673 - 01/26/17 08:30 AM (7 years, 4 days ago)

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more racist people on bills. Duane approves.








Haha, I used that same gif recently. Suave AF.


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