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Re: Not quite pin porn but... [Re: Adden]
    #24027696 - 01/21/17 09:34 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

Good morning all,

Got 2 shits in, my coffee, and a bowl.  So I am ready to go.  Just some more pics of the noob grow.



It started a small black spot but it is growing.  Pin or abort?  Leave it or exacto knife it off?



A little blueing next to a pin



The best looking spot so far



Some bluing and dark spots?



Some bluing and dark spots?



The chamber:  The middle row was birthed 5 or 7 days after the others...  The stacked cakes are two that had some uncolonized spots but a couple tiny in vitro pins so I birthed them and stuck them together... I don't know, why not.


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Re: Not quite pin porn but... [Re: Just_A_Noob]
    #24028683 - 01/21/17 05:10 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

Oof.

Well.. I'd say bottom water the pinning ones. Put them in a shallow dish and let them soak up water. You'll see them visibly swell. Scrap the bottom verm.

I'd dunk and reroll the others after picking perlite off. Place on upside down jar lids with no bands.

That's just me, there's really no best solution to this. On struggling cakes I've found a dunk/reroll to be the best solution. It's the easiest way to get them as much water as possible.

If anyone has any other advice please let this guy know.. I haven't troubleshooted dry cakes rolled in perlite in a long, long time. There's a lot you can do.


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Re: Not quite pin porn but... [Re: Adden]
    #24028737 - 01/21/17 05:30 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

After staring at it for awhile this morning,  I moved the chamber to an area of the room with less airflow, moved all the cakes in the chamber as closely as possible,  and put about 1/2" layer of wetted perlite up to tops of jar lids.  As all the cakes have at least one visible pin, your suggestion I believe is bottom water.  Do they need to be individual dishes?  I had an idea of making a tray just big enough for the cakes w/straws for draining and filling


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Re: Not quite pin porn but... [Re: Just_A_Noob]
    #24029098 - 01/21/17 08:31 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

I just put down a cookie sheet, set my cakes on it, and put like 2cm of water in. When they stop soaking it up, they're saturated. They'll be the weight they were when you dunked.

You might want to just scrap the bottom verm. It doesn't seem to be helping. People stopped doing it for a reason. Then just set the cake on an upside down jar lid.

I didn't realize how dry they were in my above posts sorry about that.

Just do whatever you think is right to rehydrate those cakes. If you do take them out, rehydrate your perlite while you're at it.


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Re: Not quite pin porn but... [Re: Adden]
    #24029387 - 01/21/17 11:23 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

I would just dunk and reroll them. They look sad and dry.


If not.. bottom water the ones with pins. If the pins are on the bottom, flip them upside down in the tray and let them soak up water. Do this 2 or 3 times changing the water either when they've soaked it all up or when 6-8h passes.

Ditch the verm on the lid/band. Place the rehydrated cakes on an upside down jar lid as close to the perlite as possible. Leave them alone for 2 days then start misting again. Make sure to rehydrate and fluff up your perlite. Be certain that no perlite is stuck or clogging the holes especially the bottom. A tablespoon or two of wet verm on top can't hurt. It sounds like you're in a hot and dry environment.

They are probably pinning as a last ditch effort to reproduce being in a non-favorable environment.


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Re: Not quite pin porn but... [Re: Lemon Hope]
    #24033924 - 01/23/17 05:55 PM (7 years, 7 days ago)

So after moving the chamber to a spot with less airflow on top of a dresser (3' higher in room), a vicks vaporizer 6' away in the room, and closing the forced air vent in the room, the cakes seem to be doing better.  I don't want to redunk or bottom water because of all the pins.  I don't know, is it okay to bottom water with all the bottom pins I have?  After this flush I'll remove the bottom verm and just put them on foil.  thanks for all the help guys.  And yeah its been cold and super dry where I am at.


pinning off the side and top


pinning off bottom and side


top pin


favorite spot so far


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Re: Not quite pin porn but... [Re: Just_A_Noob]
    #24039328 - 01/25/17 05:19 PM (7 years, 5 days ago)



That bitch is getting fat! Possible double mushie?


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Re: Not quite pin porn but... [Re: Just_A_Noob]
    #24039352 - 01/25/17 05:30 PM (7 years, 5 days ago)

Possible.. definitely let it grow all the way out. Especially if caps form and look like they're hugging. They do neat stuff and pareidolia makes them trippy af. Sometimes they can look like hearts etc. It does look like there's a lot of healthy flesh left to work with they may very well split.


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Re: Not quite pin porn but... [Re: Adden]
    #24039360 - 01/25/17 05:33 PM (7 years, 5 days ago)

Thanks for all the help and support adden.  You've got a crazy amount of patience.  I realized I was over misting, and now they are growing like crazy.  I am going to start some azures on rye this week too :wink:


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Re: Not quite pin porn but... [Re: Just_A_Noob]
    #24039367 - 01/25/17 05:37 PM (7 years, 5 days ago)

I wish, haha. I'm probably the most impatient person here. I just enjoy it when people come here and they have drive and passion and ask questions and seek knowledge, constantly bettering themselves and such. You can tell when someone just wants to get high. You can likewise tell when someone's gonna grow a lot of big mushrooms one day just as easy. I've seen a lot of potential in you new guys lately and it's just nice to see, so I'm more than willing to help man.


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Re: Not quite pin porn but... [Re: Adden]
    #24039462 - 01/25/17 06:20 PM (7 years, 5 days ago)



Should I harvest this abomination?


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Re: Not quite pin porn but... [Re: Just_A_Noob]
    #24039487 - 01/25/17 06:26 PM (7 years, 5 days ago)

No it'll get bigger and cooler and it'll be more fun to eat.


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Re: Not quite pin porn but... [Re: Adden]
    #24039499 - 01/25/17 06:29 PM (7 years, 5 days ago)

Sweet!


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Re: Not quite pin porn but... [Re: Just_A_Noob]
    #24039565 - 01/25/17 06:59 PM (7 years, 5 days ago)

Weird mushrooms are normal and fine.


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Re: Not quite pin porn but... [Re: freespeech]
    #24039586 - 01/25/17 07:08 PM (7 years, 5 days ago)

I was just worried with the open cap.  It was looking like it was going to abort ,but the conditions it was in have improved, and it looks like it recovered.


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    #24042090 - 01/26/17 06:33 PM (7 years, 4 days ago)



Should I pick it now or can it go another day? The cap is open all the way around


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Re: Not quite pin porn but... [Re: Just_A_Noob]
    #24042214 - 01/26/17 07:22 PM (7 years, 4 days ago)

It's a mutant let it grow screw it. People mean harvest when the veil breaks and cap opens (but on healthy mushrooms).

Make sure the tops of those fruits don't get caught in the crossfire during misting. I'd assume they likely have all the water they'll need to flush coz they look wet.

I haven't grown them with verm and a lid/band underneath in like 15 years. Things are gonna be a bit wonky.


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Re: Not quite pin porn but... [Re: Adden]
    #24042223 - 01/26/17 07:26 PM (7 years, 4 days ago)

cool, thanks, I am sure I will do cakes again and I'll do them right next time.  I figured I would just finish these and see how they went in.  So do you not think its going to drop spores?


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Re: Not quite pin porn but... [Re: Just_A_Noob]
    #24042232 - 01/26/17 07:28 PM (7 years, 4 days ago)

Dunno. Sometimes they do sometimes they don't. I had one like that for the longest time just getting bigger and fatter and out of nowhere it ejected spores. I'm guessing they were just stuck in the cap coz things were too wet and they finally just fell out. It didn't exactly sporulate, just kind of lightly fell.


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Re: Not quite pin porn but... [Re: Just_A_Noob]
    #24042237 - 01/26/17 07:30 PM (7 years, 4 days ago)

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cool, thanks, I am sure I will do cakes again and I'll do them right next time.  I figured I would just finish these and see how they went in.  So do you not think its going to drop spores?




If you're gonna do more cakes you can get them started now, so when your sgfc is said and done, you'll have germination and some colonization. I like to do mine 20 days apart but I don't use spores anymore.


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