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rudebuoy

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phishers of men
#24025304 - 01/20/17 11:02 AM (7 years, 10 days ago) |
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phish phans and deadheads are modern day apostles... getting baptized in the spirit via the holy sacrament (psychedelics), deconstructing traditional paradigms, no longer adhering to the law and the morality-based pharisaical establishment and instead resting in grace.
phish phans sport the fish/ ichthys to signal other believers. Fishies make their home in water which symbolizes the unconscious mind from which the conscious mind follows. the jordan river represent the descent (of man) and the flowing of the spirit. The Isrealites had to cross the jordan river to escape the desert and enter the promise land and jesus was baptized in the jordan before he entered the desert (JC's redemptive journey works backwards).
..while deadheads sport stealies to symbolize the death of the ego, or being buried and risen with christ. "We consider ourselves as dead to sin but alive to christ. " "I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me." "unless a grain of wheat falls into the earth and dies, it remains alone; but if it dies, it bears much fruit." "that, in reference to your former manner of life, you lay aside the old self, which is being corrupted in accordance with the lusts of deceit, and that you be renewed in the spirit of your mind"
the disciples were considered degenerates by the religious, yet they were the ones who carried the real gospel. if you buy into that book "the mushroom and the cross" then its only obvious that the grateful dead singlehandedly revived true christian tradition. If you dont buy into early christians eating mushrooms, many scholars agree that mixed wine mentioned in the bible was "some crazy mind expanding shit". All these phonies calling themselves christians these days and not getting high are missing the point.
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Re: phishers of men [Re: rudebuoy]
#24025312 - 01/20/17 11:05 AM (7 years, 10 days ago) |
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Deadhead for life!!
Edit- I'm not Christian and I doubt all deadhead are
Edited by connectedcosmos (01/20/17 11:25 AM)
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mt cleverest
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Re: phishers of men [Re: rudebuoy]
#24025356 - 01/20/17 11:23 AM (7 years, 10 days ago) |
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Pfff LAME put this crap in the christian forum
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Re: phishers of men [Re: rudebuoy]
#24025357 - 01/20/17 11:23 AM (7 years, 10 days ago) |
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are you bassfreak?
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Re: phishers of men [Re: rudebuoy]
#24025376 - 01/20/17 11:32 AM (7 years, 10 days ago) |
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Quote:
rudebuoy said: phish phans and deadheads are modern day apostles... getting baptized in the spirit via the holy sacrament (psychedelics), deconstructing traditional paradigms, no longer adhering to the law and the morality-based pharisaical establishment and instead resting in grace.
phish phans sport the fish/ ichthys to signal other believers. Fishies make their home in water which symbolizes the unconscious mind from which the conscious mind follows. the jordan river represent the descent (of man) and the flowing of the spirit. The Isrealites had to cross the jordan river to escape the desert and enter the promise land and jesus was baptized in the jordan before he entered the desert (JC's redemptive journey works backwards).
..while deadheads sport stealies to symbolize the death of the ego, or being buried and risen with christ. "We consider ourselves as dead to sin but alive to christ. " "I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me." "unless a grain of wheat falls into the earth and dies, it remains alone; but if it dies, it bears much fruit." "that, in reference to your former manner of life, you lay aside the old self, which is being corrupted in accordance with the lusts of deceit, and that you be renewed in the spirit of your mind"
the disciples were considered degenerates by the religious, yet they were the ones who carried the real gospel. if you buy into that book "the mushroom and the cross" then its only obvious that the grateful dead singlehandedly revived true christian tradition. If you dont buy into early christians eating mushrooms, many scholars agree that mixed wine mentioned in the bible was "some crazy mind expanding shit". All these phonies calling themselves christians these days and not getting high are missing the point.
So, the musicians getting rich are doing gods work then?! uh huh. How about the people willing to take psychedelics that don't conform to being a "fishy" or a "steally"? your music choice does not make you a higher entity than those around you... Unless you're a radiohead fan, then it does.
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rudebuoy

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Quote:
connectedcosmos said:
Edit- I'm not Christian and I doubt all deadhead are
you and they are unwittingly christian
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tyrannicalrex said: are you bassfreak?
no, I'm new.
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Re: phishers of men [Re: rudebuoy]
#24025396 - 01/20/17 11:40 AM (7 years, 10 days ago) |
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Phish sux and God is dead.
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Re: phishers of men [Re: rudebuoy]
#24025412 - 01/20/17 11:49 AM (7 years, 10 days ago) |
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rudebuoy said:
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connectedcosmos said:
Edit- I'm not Christian and I doubt all deadhead are
you and they are unwittingly christian
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tyrannicalrex said: are you bassfreak?
no, I'm new.
Uhm... I'm pretty sure I know what my beliefs are and they will forever grow evolve and change as does the universe
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rudebuoy

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radiohead are almost there (they definitely do psyches), they just don't celebrate the christian principles of community and psychedelic induced ego death as much as GD and phish. check out these radiohead lyrics tho..
Don't hurt me Gather up the lost and sold (don't hurt me) In your arms (don't hurt me) In your arms (don't hurt me) Gather up the pitiful (don't hurt me) What seems impossible (don't hurt me) In your arms (don't hurt me) I think I have had my fill (don't hurt me) I think I should give up the ghost (don't hurt me)
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Re: phishers of men [Re: rudebuoy]
#24025674 - 01/20/17 01:37 PM (7 years, 10 days ago) |
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Christianity is a trap, quick, run and burn it with fire!
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Re: phishers of men [Re: rudebuoy]
#24028992 - 01/21/17 07:21 PM (7 years, 9 days ago) |
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rudebuoy said: radiohead are almost there (they definitely do psyches), they just don't celebrate the christian principles of community and psychedelic induced ego death as much as GD and phish. check out these radiohead lyrics tho..
Don't hurt me Gather up the lost and sold (don't hurt me) In your arms (don't hurt me) In your arms (don't hurt me) Gather up the pitiful (don't hurt me) What seems impossible (don't hurt me) In your arms (don't hurt me) I think I have had my fill (don't hurt me) I think I should give up the ghost (don't hurt me)
Radiohead is just another band. They're all just bands. I've worked closely with entertainers and their techs, including phish and the GFD. All i'm gonna say is that they are in it for the money as much as anyone else. Sure, their music may touch you, which is beautiful. But to think of them as prophets or anything else other than human beings playing music isn't good for fans and its not good for artists. Some of the people many worship the most are completely delusional. They don't live in any semblance of our reality, as much as they live in an isolated state of mind where they themselves can't really relate to anyone. They might feel like they relate more to average folks than other entertainers even, but when it comes down to it, they feel alone. I dont challenge others' ideologies because everyone is free to believe whatever they want-even satanists. I seriously don't give a fuck until it starts to trickle in to my life. The biggest fallacy in religion is when ones' own sense of knowledge and perspective of his/her own beliefs compels said individual to try to convince others to believe the same thing/s. This is largely to validate themselves, even if they refuse to admit it because their faith is "so strong". I personally believe there is something MUCH larger than us and WAY more intelligent that is ever present in our reality. Thats about all I can really say, because I don't pretend to know more than that. I could be totally wrong about even that too, and I probably am. I don't think any man has the capacity or close to the ability to understand those things. We want to understand everything and be able to provide answers, but the thing is, we really don't know shit. The ones who think they know or pretend to, know the least. To touch on ego death- psychedelics are not synonymous with those bands, they have been used for thousands of years by human beings that were probably brighter and more connected than ourselves. Nobody can explain the psychedelic experience nor can they explain death or life. Look where we are... We just elected trump president and we're collectively destroying our planet. Nobody has any answers. ESPECIALLY christians. They have the opposite of answers.
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In any musician is a prophet, Its gotta be Maynard
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Re: phishers of men [Re: rudebuoy]
#24029097 - 01/21/17 08:31 PM (7 years, 9 days ago) |
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greatful dead is the OG emo band
Phish is emo for nihilists
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Re: phishers of men [Re: twighead]
#24029141 - 01/21/17 08:59 PM (7 years, 9 days ago) |
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twighead said: greatful dead is the OG emo band
Phish is emo for nihilists
I would not consider the dead emo at all. If anything their music is about making the best of things, even if you have nothing.
"You can see the light in the strangest places if you look at it right"
Grateful Dead - Early Morning Rain
A lot of their music is pretty damn upbeat, basically the opposite of what I consider emo.
Maybe you weren't being serious
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Re: phishers of men [Re: rudebuoy] 1
#24029145 - 01/21/17 09:04 PM (7 years, 9 days ago) |
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At first I thought this thread said "fisters of men"
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Re: phishers of men [Re: Lucis]
#24032561 - 01/23/17 06:00 AM (7 years, 7 days ago) |
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(1 St. John, 2, 26): I am writing to you in this way about those who would deceive you, but the Oil you received from him remains within you and you really need no teaching from anyone; simply remain in him, for his Oil teaches you about everything and is true and is no lie--remain in him, as his Oil has taught you to do.
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Re: phishers of men [Re: rudebuoy]
#24032572 - 01/23/17 06:19 AM (7 years, 7 days ago) |
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Sort of an out there post....
But the grateful dead are fuckin awesome man! Very talented musicians
Check out "old and in the way" if you like the blue grassy sound, it's anothr of jerrys bands
Edited by stzacrack (01/23/17 06:21 AM)
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