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Re: Ross Perot 1992 [Re: Learyfan]
    #2403338 - 03/04/04 03:25 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

I have many problems with the two-party system, but it will take a great fundamental change in our political structure to change it, and that change would have to come from the inside, not from a third-party candidate.


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Re: Ross Perot 1992 [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2403355 - 03/04/04 03:29 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

How can you stand by and watch these companies buy our country??

Fuck the CPD. Some other entity needs to be in charge of debates. One that doesn't mind certain issues being addressed.






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Re: Ross Perot 1992 [Re: Xochitl]
    #2403365 - 03/04/04 03:31 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

If you read their site you'll see they are a private orginization. Do you really want the government to decide who they must (or must not) include?

I don't.


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Re: Ross Perot 1992 [Re: silversoul7]
    #2403368 - 03/04/04 03:32 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

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silversoul7 said:
I have many problems with the two-party system, but it will take a great fundamental change in our political structure to change it, and that change would have to come from the inside, not from a third-party candidate.




Change will come if you have someone like Nader up on stage making complete fools out of the Republicans and the Democrats.







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Re: Ross Perot 1992 [Re: Learyfan]
    #2403379 - 03/04/04 03:37 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

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Some other entity needs to be in charge of debates.



It doesn't matter who is in charge. Government must NOT be allowed to say who must be included.


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Re: Ross Perot 1992 [Re: Learyfan]
    #2403405 - 03/04/04 03:43 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

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silversoul7 said:
I have many problems with the two-party system, but it will take a great fundamental change in our political structure to change it, and that change would have to come from the inside, not from a third-party candidate.




Change will come if you have someone like Nader up on stage making complete fools out of the Republicans and the Democrats.



Seeing how little effect Kucinich had on the Democratic debates, I fail to see how Nader would make that much of a difference in the debates during the general election.


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Re: Ross Perot 1992 [Re: silversoul7]
    #2403420 - 03/04/04 03:47 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Nader would most certainly say things Kucinich wouldn't/couldn't say. Kucinich was a pussy cat. Nader would let them have it.





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Re: Ross Perot 1992 [Re: Learyfan]
    #2403432 - 03/04/04 03:49 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

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Nader would most certainly say things Kucinich wouldn't/couldn't say. Kucinich was a pussy cat. Nader would let them have it.



Did you even watch the fucking debates?!! God, you have been blinded by your hatred for both mainstream parties! Nader isn't saying much that Kucinich and Sharpton weren't already saying during the debates. Nader just happens to be more arrogant than them, as are many of his followers, apparently.


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Re: Ross Perot 1992 [Re: silversoul7]
    #2403475 - 03/04/04 03:59 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Nader is a loose cannon nutcase who has no chance of winning. The fucking guy has never even been elected dogcatcher. In California, no less, where they'll elect a geranium to the city council. Why clutter up a debate with that?

The problem isn't the politicians or the corporations or the media. It's the fucking stupid people. You get the government you deserve.


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Re: Ross Perot 1992 [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2403679 - 03/04/04 05:13 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

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If you read their site you'll see they are a private orginization. Do you really want the government to decide who they must (or must not) include?

I don't




I'm with you on that one - government control of debates would be terrible. But the problem of limited access, censorship, and political correctness still exists in the corporate hands of the CPD.


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Re: Ross Perot 1992 [Re: Xochitl]
    #2403702 - 03/04/04 05:25 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

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But the problem of limited access, censorship, and political correctness still exists in the corporate hands of the CPD.



I'm "sure" that should the candidates agree with you, they'll decline any offer by the CPD to host such an event.


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