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Day tripping tomorrow
    #24024127 - 01/19/17 08:41 PM (7 years, 11 days ago)

So I want to take shrooms tomorrow. I was going to have an empty stomach, tape a Pepcid and an anti nausea. I'll have some bud on hand. I was planning on doing this in my bedroom and venturing out into the house randomly.... I'd start at 8:30 or 9, and my kids come home from school at 3.
Anyone advise against this?  Oh and I'll have an old friend babysitting me.

So recommendations?  I could postpone it another week but I've never done this and I've been putting it off far too long.


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Re: Day tripping tomorrow [Re: BatmanBDC]
    #24024235 - 01/19/17 09:19 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

What dose?


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Re: Day tripping tomorrow [Re: BatmanBDC]
    #24024249 - 01/19/17 09:23 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

I was going to ask if this is your first time, but you clarify that in your last line.

What dose are you going to take? Is your sitter experienced? Will your sitter dose as well or just babysit?

I MUCH prefer doing any psychedelic outdoors. There are 1 million reasons for this, but it depends on where you live this time of year. I take them much less often in the winter because it's too cold out for most outdoor tripping, but if it's a warm day in december and I go out hiking for the full day, I enjoy dosing still.

Also, what are you looking to get out of your trip? This will also dictate what dose you should use. If you're going to jump in head first and take the McKenna approach (5 grams, empty stomach, silent darkness), then indoor is a much better option, but since it's your first time, you might want to be a bit more cautious. 1.5-3 grams is a good place to start.

Indoor tripping won't be the end of the world, and it's nice to be in a controlled environment, but if I were you (and you're in a place where going outside is an option) I would take the dose, hang out indoors for an hour or two until you've come up and can test how you're feeling, and if you're up for it, then the two of you should head out and walk your dog (if you have one) or just take a stroll through the woods. It's way better outdoors if you can.

That's my two cents.

P.S. You should be 100% down when your kids get back from school if you take them by 9am, but you might have some afterglow. If anything they'll just wonder why you're so happy, but you won't be tripping anymore by that time. You'll be fully baseline.

Have fun and report back!


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Re: Day tripping tomorrow [Re: TheScientificMethod]
    #24024325 - 01/19/17 09:50 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

I wanted to get something more than just visuals, I'd love a spiritual experience. I was planning on doing 1.5-2 for my first time, not sure if it matters but I'm 6ft and 200 pounds, in good shape, again, not sure if that makes a difference with the dose or not.. My sitter has never done it and is 76 yrs old. She was just gonna watch tv and make sure I don't put an eye out. She's also the one that's picking the kids up from school. I love chilling at my place when I'm high, but it's not the cleanest. There's no way I'd be able to get it cleaned up nice and tidy. But he stuff that's laying around I'm ok with. I hope I won't go nuts over it.


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Re: Day tripping tomorrow [Re: BatmanBDC]
    #24024346 - 01/19/17 10:00 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

Maybe you should just take it at night so you don't have to stress about deadlines. After a sleep the effects will be basically gone.

I have always been a person who thinks trip sitters are more harm than good, just thinking about them and I can see myself not having a good time.

Tidy your place, hang out while you see how you feel and then take a walk if you want to once you can gauge the effects.

Also, who is the 76 year old person to you?, just wondering.


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Re: Day tripping tomorrow [Re: The Mycologist] * 1
    #24024368 - 01/19/17 10:14 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

I don't think that it's a great idea to have a sitter who has no experience. If things get weird, they won't know what's normal and what's not. They could get anxious which will make you more anxious which could turn into a bad trip, when in reality nothing is wrong and they need to stay chill and remind you that everything is chill.

Also, I second the question of who this 76 year old person is in relation to you.

As for spiritual vs visual, I doubt that you'll get it from 2 grams. I was an atheist for 5 years and psychedelics turned me into a pantheist (more or less), but it wasn't from low dose trips. I had trips up to 3.5 grams and just had an amazing time, but it wasn't spiritual, and I suspect you'll find the same unless you're already spiritually inclined. I'd recommend taking your two grams to get the feel for it, and within the month try a 5 gram silent darkness trip. That will give you spiritual, but I don't think you'll find it from the low dose.

Also worth noting, since you're only eating 2 grams, it should be pretty mellow. Nothing to worry about. Your weight and height are normal; should not affect the trip.


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Re: Day tripping tomorrow [Re: TheScientificMethod]
    #24024886 - 01/20/17 07:42 AM (7 years, 10 days ago)

The 76 year old person is just an older friend I've had for years. I can't go outside and trip because it's cold out, I could go for a walk around the block I guess. I've been hemming and hawing about doing this for years. I always wanted to be under a tree in a field in the summer. It just hasn't ever happened. Unfortunately. I don't know anyone else that's done them really. I think I'd be fine, just don't want to end up on the roof naked or something or found wandering somewhere lol. Or is that not really how it works?  In the medical studies the sweet spot for finding this life changing event is between 2 and 3 grams. I'd be fine sitting in a dark room for the duration, venturing out for breaks. Kids will be gone Saturday, ive put it off till tomorrow.  If I feel like I'm starting to have a bad trip, can I just go somewhere else and go back to having a good trip?  Lol on a side note, I grew these shrooms a few years ago and have been in jars with desiccant because I've been putting it off. I know they're good because I've given my sister some in Colorado to give to her friends and everyone loves it, couple weeks ago was the last time they did it. But that's about 12 hours away from me. I grew albino a+ and b+ and have about 30 grams dried left.


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Re: Day tripping tomorrow [Re: BatmanBDC]
    #24024992 - 01/20/17 08:31 AM (7 years, 10 days ago)

I have seen the studies you're talking about, and I've been skeptical about that dose being "life changing." I suppose under the right set/setting it *could* be impactful, but I really think that the big revelations happen between 4-7g (depending on tollerance and individual variables).

That said, I think that where you're starting is a good place. Getting your feet wet with 2 grams will be a good way to get an idea of what the trip experience is like. If I recall, that's about where I started.

I totally understand it being too cold to get outside. I've got a couple of free days right now and I'd love to get out and eat some LSD or mushrooms, but it's too damn cold right now; snowed 8 inches here last night. It looks beautiful and would be fun were it not for being so damn cold...

And as for sitting under a tree in the summer in a field, the answer is YESYESYESYESYES!!! I love that kind of an experience. But it's not summer yet. So save yourself a few grams for later in the year and you should absolutely go out and do that.

For the time being however, have your 2 gram trip tomorrow, then if you're feeling like you want to really get deep, plan a 5 gram, empty stomach, silent darkness trip in a month or so. That'll just about gurentee that you'll have your mind blown and reality will not look the same again from there forward. You'll still be a "normal" person, but it'll alter your perception of how you view life and the world, or at least that's what I'd expect and what I've experienced personally. I was an atheist before eating psychedelics and I had been for about five years. I had no plan whatsoever of going spiritual through the use of these plant medicines, but that's what happened. By far the most profound experiences I've had have been silent darkness high dose mushroom trips, but I do recommend testing the waters first.

As for fighting a "bad trip," that's hard. I think that your best bet is just going into it with a super positive mindset, in a good setting, in a safe environment. If you feel safe and comfortable, you should be fine, especially with just 2 grams. IF it does get weird, yes, you could try going to a different room, changing the music, changing the lighting, or smoking a bowl, or going outside for a short walk. All of those things can change things. Also, you could just sit with it for a bit, as I think that there is a lot to be learned from "challenging experiences" (I prefer that term over "bad trip"). Again however, you're only taking 2 grams, so try and go into it with the faith that you shouldn't really experience anything too heavy.

Have a good time, and make sure to report back!


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Re: Day tripping tomorrow [Re: TheScientificMethod]
    #24025379 - 01/20/17 11:33 AM (7 years, 10 days ago)

Yeah :whathesaid:, there is no reason that you should lose your mind like that. If you are careful and are in a comfortable place then you really have nothing to worry about. 2gs is not that strong imo, my first time i took 3.5 and had a splendid time. Bad trips are caused mostly by bad situations. Have an environment where nothing unexpected and unavoidable occurs and you will be fine. When I first started taking psychs I used to wonder how someone could have a bad trip. You have nothing to worry about.


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Re: Day tripping tomorrow [Re: The Mycologist]
    #24026215 - 01/20/17 04:51 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

Fuck it. Im gonna do it now. These shrooms have been in a tight mason jar with dissicant in it. There's black on this shroom but it's very dry and I think it's just bruising from when it was handled. Comments?


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Re: Day tripping tomorrow [Re: BatmanBDC]
    #24026241 - 01/20/17 04:59 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

They look normal to me. The black is probably just spores.

Report back. I'm excited to hear your impression.

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Re: Day tripping tomorrow [Re: TheScientificMethod]
    #24026365 - 01/20/17 05:39 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

:heytherebadboy:


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Re: Day tripping tomorrow [Re: The Mycologist]
    #24026487 - 01/20/17 06:44 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

How long after I eat the shrooms should I wait to eat pizza?


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Re: Day tripping tomorrow [Re: BatmanBDC]
    #24026511 - 01/20/17 06:56 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

LOL!

I never find myself able to eat on mushrooms or LSD. But if you are hungry, eat something small an hour after ingestion of the mushrooms. It'll shorten the trip, but it'll subside your hunger. After 4-5 hours, eat away because your trip should be about done.


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Re: Day tripping tomorrow [Re: BatmanBDC]
    #24026630 - 01/20/17 07:45 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

Either tell our kids about what you are doing or don't do it.


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Re: Day tripping tomorrow [Re: GabbaDj]
    #24026649 - 01/20/17 07:55 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

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Either tell our kids about what you are doing or don't do it.




Why do you say that? Do we know how old the kids are? Wouldn't it be weird if they're like 7 years old? Seems to me that it'd be better for the first time to do it on his own, and if the kids are old enough, then he can talk to them about the experience later on.

Just curious what your thinking on that advice is.

Also, I assume you mean "your" kids unless you're his wife??? But that would explain why you know about the kids' ages.


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Re: Day tripping tomorrow [Re: GabbaDj]
    #24027497 - 01/21/17 07:52 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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Either tell our kids about what you are doing or don't do it.




:lolwut:

thats wild man, the way he talks about them made me think they were young. Young kids dont need that info


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Re: Day tripping tomorrow [Re: The Mycologist]
    #24028240 - 01/21/17 01:35 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

Haha my kids are teenagers. Kids don't need to be informed of every private thing that their father does. When they're older perhaps. Anyway they left yesterday and they're gone for the weekend. So after they left I did the shrooms. 2g on an empty stomach, an anti nausea and a Pepcid. The 2g made things a little weird in a cool way but nothing really strange. It was a decent trip, I think next time I'll go to 2.5 or 3.

Thanks everyone for the advice and opinions, I appreciate this community, good people.
I ended up chilling in my room in the dark with music and also walking around the block. It was a gorgeous evening, foggy but the lights through the fog was cool. And the tres looked awesome. Didn't have anything negative happening. I felt a little anxiety being around other people so I just left the room and was fine.


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Re: Day tripping tomorrow [Re: BatmanBDC]
    #24028327 - 01/21/17 02:18 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

Awesome man, go for 3.5 next time.


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Re: Day tripping tomorrow [Re: BatmanBDC]
    #24028600 - 01/21/17 04:24 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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Haha my kids are teenagers. Kids don't need to be informed of every private thing that their father does. When they're older perhaps. Anyway they left yesterday and they're gone for the weekend. So after they left I did the shrooms. 2g on an empty stomach, an anti nausea and a Pepcid. The 2g made things a little weird in a cool way but nothing really strange. It was a decent trip, I think next time I'll go to 2.5 or 3.

Thanks everyone for the advice and opinions, I appreciate this community, good people.
I ended up chilling in my room in the dark with music and also walking around the block. It was a gorgeous evening, foggy but the lights through the fog was cool. And the tres looked awesome. Didn't have anything negative happening. I felt a little anxiety being around other people so I just left the room and was fine.




Hell yes! This is so good to hear! Perfect first trip. Remember, you can always take more, but you can't take less, so it's FAR better to start slow and work your way up. If it was a mellow experience, that's good; like I said, I didn't expect it to be life shattering. Everyone has different tollerance too, so keep that in mind.

Next time I would absolutely recommend 3 grams, then if you want to go up from there, go to 4 grams. Also, you can always take a dose, and 1-2 hours into the trip you can take another gram. It'll extend the duration of the trip and also bring you up just a bit. Play it safe, don't jump in too deep, and you'll have an amazing relationship with this plant medicine.

Thanks for reporting back, welcome to the Shroomery, and welcome to psychedelics!


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