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OfflineSeriously_trippin
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Re: WHAT IS COLLEGE GOOD FOR? [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake] * 1
    #24024450 - 01/19/17 11:05 PM (7 years, 11 days ago)

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Seriously_trippin said:
Please can you shed some light on how much math is involved in current IT jobs ? I'm having apprehensions because I'm horrible at math but it may but less coding then I though. I haven't declared a major yet because I was going to be a history major but I need something more lucrative . I can always change it but it SEEMS like a big commitment





So far in my IT career I have done little to no math.
In college I took up to Calculus 2 and Business Statistics; I haven't used what I learned in those classes once yet in real life.
I think colleges make you take high level math classes for IT majors because it does show you have pure logical problem-solving abilities, which is important for IT industry.
I currently consult for a popular credit union and the math I perform for my testing is just basic algebra.
My previous project had me doing web development and I did little to no math in that project, too.

If you're horrible at math then you will probably struggle with the math classes required for a computer science degree, though your mileage will vary school by school with how difficult the math requirements are.

Regarding your history major idea, from what I know, it might be tricky to find a good paying job with that degree.  Don't quote me on that, though, I don't know that field very well.  From what I'm reading online right now, you could use that undergraduate history degree to pursue graduate law school.

You mentioned coding... are you wanting to program as a job?  You could possibly get an IT job with no IT degree if you make a few projects on your own.  A fantastic idea would be to make your own website to sell yourself, then just give employers your website link.  Try making a website using AngularJS, or better yet, AngularJS 2.   





In my previous project a coworker made a graph for heteroskedasticity... that took some pretty intense math to make.  The word is so fun to say that I memorized it lol..




Thank you, that helps my descion quite a lot.


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OfflineRJ Tubs 202
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Re: WHAT IS COLLEGE GOOD FOR? [Re: Big Worm]
    #24024461 - 01/19/17 11:11 PM (7 years, 11 days ago)

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I think college is good for people who don't go right after high school.

I believe people should experience more of the world and learn more about themselves and who they truly are and what they really want before making a decision like that.




Don't wait until you "know who you are" before going to college. That's a mistake!

A high-school grad can get a university Bachelors degree in 48 weeks.

That ain't much considering a 40 + year career in the work force. 

I've never met a college grad who said it was a waste of time.


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Re: WHAT IS COLLEGE GOOD FOR? [Re: Near Dylan]
    #24024522 - 01/19/17 11:41 PM (7 years, 11 days ago)

When I finished high school, I was pretty burnt out, and I don't think there's anything really better I could have done.  I also got a full-ride scholarship so that was more reason to go.  Some people say that you can make much more money in the long run by not going to college, but knowing how much I lacked resourcefulness and motivation when I was 18, I'm confident that there's nothing better I would have done.


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Re: WHAT IS COLLEGE GOOD FOR? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
    #24024535 - 01/19/17 11:58 PM (7 years, 11 days ago)

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Some people say that you can make much more money in the long run by not going to college...




Beware of this type of diatribe! I earn triple what I'd make without a degree.

Yes, once high school grads get a taste of cash, college seems ludicrous.

But a college degree is 48 weeks, with summers to do what you wish.

Tiny investment with a giant reward.


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Re: WHAT IS COLLEGE GOOD FOR? [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #24024632 - 01/20/17 01:40 AM (7 years, 10 days ago)

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I've never met a college grad who said it was a waste of time.




Maybe not a waste of time because I had a hell of a lot of fun, but definitely a waste of money. College is pretty stupid unless you have a specific career in mind that requires a degree.


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Re: WHAT IS COLLEGE GOOD FOR? [Re: Repertoire89] * 1
    #24024702 - 01/20/17 03:37 AM (7 years, 10 days ago)

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College is good if you need it for your specific field
Otherwise its a waste of time, effort and money





This. Personally college was necessary for me, and I'm really glad I went. I used grants to get it covered, and went back in my mid-twenties, knowing exactly what I wanted to do. And now I'm doing that debt free. I know a lot of people that went straight out of HS & are now paying off debt, while working in completely non-related fields to their degrees. I also know some people that never went & doing fine financially. The thing is, you need something. Whether it's college, trade school, IT or other certs..... I don't know many people without a plan or any of that stuff that are actually working a job they like, or making real money. You need some kind of skill. Some folks sell drugs, but that's not a realistically sustainable option. Maybe growing weed in a legal state.....but who knows how the new administration is gonna handle that. I don't see them leaving it alone. And I'd be willing to bet a lot of folks growing in those states aren't following the state laws in that regard, which sets them up for a fall.


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Re: WHAT IS COLLEGE GOOD FOR? [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #24024780 - 01/20/17 05:46 AM (7 years, 10 days ago)

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RJ Tubs 202 said:
Tiny investment with a giant reward.



giant investment = unsure reward.

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Don't wait until you "know who you are" before going to college. That's a mistake!



usually people don't "know" what they want, they predict what they think they want, and they get comfortable with things.

a mistake is assuming that kids..yes, kids...know what they're gonna want to dedicate their ENTIRE LIFE TO.

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humanity...stupid. infinitely stupid.

i wanna be a doctor! (until i don't, then it's just a big waste of fucking life. just like going up to a mountain and meditating for years. waste...of...time.)


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Re: WHAT IS COLLEGE GOOD FOR? [Re: Near Dylan]
    #24024796 - 01/20/17 06:12 AM (7 years, 10 days ago)

I think college can teach you useful, basic skills.  I took numerous technical writing and basic communication classes.  Along with these basic skills come things like time management, setting longer term goals/projects and learning to work with others.  I also think there is inherent value in learning about diverse topics to become a well-rounded person.  I recall taking a couple poetry and art classes where I studied things I never would have if it weren't a requirement.

Then there is the social development that comes from being around young adults and obviously, the career and networking aspects to obtain a job and career prospects.


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...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

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Re: WHAT IS COLLEGE GOOD FOR? [Re: Near Dylan]
    #24024801 - 01/20/17 06:16 AM (7 years, 10 days ago)

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Re: WHAT IS COLLEGE GOOD FOR? [Re: Blend]
    #24024917 - 01/20/17 07:59 AM (7 years, 10 days ago)

I've an associates in chemistry- the associates is pretty much useless but I'm glad I did it.  I need to finish the bachelors because then it'll actually help contribute to me getting a real career going.


I'm 31 and still working shit jobs.


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Re: WHAT IS COLLEGE GOOD FOR? [Re: Maverick]
    #24024937 - 01/20/17 08:11 AM (7 years, 10 days ago)

Yep. I have an ASN (2 years) for nursing that allows me to test for the RN license (have the LPN through that course) and I will use the job to help pay for my bachelors. I don't think I have a masters in me,lol. Has anyone ever noticed a 50yo+ waitperson or bartender? It's pretty sad sometimes, unless they are in a place where they are making decent money and have insurance or it's a second job for extra cash etc... Once one hits 40 or more it's good to have some kind of solid job or income of some kind, and that depends on what they want in life meaning kids or not etc.... I barely got everything going for a second career, but I'm doing it!

That motto of one can make more money without college depends on the connections one has, family money, working from the time one is in their teens, if they are a computer person, does a trade like painting or car repair, and many other factors. The self made millionaire thing is mostly internet biz these days isn't it?:shrug:


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Re: WHAT IS COLLEGE GOOD FOR? [Re: Near Dylan]
    #24024980 - 01/20/17 08:28 AM (7 years, 10 days ago)

The thing that has helped me get my fancy pants lower middle class insurance office job the most was being dual enrolled in highschool and college. Under those grounds I could go to the county technical center and take certification tests for free.

I got the following:
IC3
Powerpoint
Word
Excel
Webmasters
Finance
Business Computer Applications

The "office" certification you can take online and it looks good to idiot office employers. Finance & accounting are great for any financial relative job. IC3 & WM helped me move into my current job which is location research using the world wide web.


I went back to college looking to get a degree in science or conservation and dropped out because I got really depressed about the reality that no one gives a shit about the environment and if I did go all that way and got into "fighting for the environment" I'd probably definitely end up committing suicide in a couple years.


That being said I am happy I went back. Just because I like learning. But mind you in most colleges a true passion and desire to learn is very counterproductive to getting your degree. There's a reason people only learn what they need for finals and then forget everything the moment they pass. It's not really designed to have you "learn" it's designed to make you a better business lackey.

If you want to learn go to college n be prepared to fail.
If you want better job prospects go to technical school and don't waste your time in college. When you get out of college you'll find everyone else has a BA too and you don't mean shit next to the people that have experience.


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Re: WHAT IS COLLEGE GOOD FOR? [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #24025022 - 01/20/17 08:38 AM (7 years, 10 days ago)

if I didn't go to school i'd probably own a house by now have a new car ....

college only gets you a good job if you're willing to re-located and even then it doesn't pay much most of the time but it's probably significantly easier then another job


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Re: WHAT IS COLLEGE GOOD FOR? [Re: Konyap] * 1
    #24025063 - 01/20/17 08:54 AM (7 years, 10 days ago)

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Re: WHAT IS COLLEGE GOOD FOR? [Re: LSDollar]
    #24025153 - 01/20/17 09:39 AM (7 years, 10 days ago)

I voted

Didn't help with a job(a little but not too much overall)

Glad I went though. Learning is always nice.


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Re: WHAT IS COLLEGE GOOD FOR? [Re: Near Dylan]
    #24025165 - 01/20/17 09:43 AM (7 years, 10 days ago)

wish I hadn't gone. about to graduate.


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Re: WHAT IS COLLEGE GOOD FOR? [Re: hex_enduction]
    #24025265 - 01/20/17 10:45 AM (7 years, 10 days ago)

you shouldn't have to certify yourself in something you can learn for yourself. it's a pointless prerequisite.


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Re: WHAT IS COLLEGE GOOD FOR? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #24025273 - 01/20/17 10:52 AM (7 years, 10 days ago)

Should or shouldnt

Is or is not


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Re: WHAT IS COLLEGE GOOD FOR? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #24025322 - 01/20/17 11:08 AM (7 years, 10 days ago)

yeah my friend went for a business degree and so far his web design 101 class paid off more he works for google, his business degree was useless in a way


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Re: WHAT IS COLLEGE GOOD FOR? [Re: Konyap] * 1
    #24028912 - 01/21/17 06:45 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

college was good for exploring myself and the world around me.  allowed a degree of freedom i had yet to experience but longed for.  the college classes/experience itself was mostly useless (outside of some Ag/Anth courses).  that being said, i focused on growing/extracting/consuming/sharing a plethora of illegal plants/compounds and riding my bicycle/traveling around the US by car

i also almost graduated in three years, but got fucked over by the person overseeing my course-plan


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