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Firecracker question
#24022136 - 01/19/17 07:10 AM (7 years, 11 days ago) |
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So last night was hanging out at a buddies making some firecrackers, had used an oven thermometer to check his oven and all. So we were good to decarb, had it at 250 and my buddies drunk and barred out neighbor is over.
So I had stepped out for a moment and I guess guy had slid his chair back knocking the oven knob to 300, which I didn't realize till I went to take it out. You guys think this coulda vaped the green ? Cause them shits were weak for sure.
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How long did you decarb for? Overall I'd say if it was under 350 it likely wasn't a big deal.
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15 mins , I had just heard of people setting capes in the low 300s didn't know if it could cause potency loss. When decarbing I just use a baking pan with foil , only had .3 in each of some medical just not enough?
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I need a minimum .5 for good effects, for me at least. .7+ is where I start to get floored. I would still decarb at 250 like you originally intended but maybe bump it up to 20-25 minutes and then bake the actual firecrackers at 320 for 20 minutes.
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300 is no big deal at all.
Either it was shit weed or there wasnt enough.
I think a reliable dose for edibles for firecrackers is minimum .3, more reliably anywhere between .45-.6 grams.
Unless you have a high tolerance anything over .6 grams is overkill
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Re: Firecracker question [Re: JvF]
#24022956 - 01/19/17 01:38 PM (7 years, 11 days ago) |
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Did you seal in the firecrackers while you decarbed em? That seems to help make sure as much is absorbed into the peanut butter as possible.
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^^^
Also just wanted to add that this video is the best firecracker recipe ive found. I was making them differently for a while but found this video a few months ago and its consistent every time.
I like to substitute peanut butter with nutella
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Re: Firecracker question [Re: JvF]
#24022998 - 01/19/17 01:54 PM (7 years, 11 days ago) |
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I like to add oil/ butter usually coconut butter to make sure it is plenty oily/ fatty.
Probably doesn't matter with oilier peanut butter but some is pretty processed.
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Thats shitty.
Once i showed someone how to make hash with keif, parchment paper and a lighter and i did it properly for them the first time then let them try it. Me and my friend went upstairs for not even a minute and when we came back down the parchment paper and a corner of the hash was burnt.
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Re: Firecracker question [Re: BANANA.MAN] 1
#24023303 - 01/19/17 03:59 PM (7 years, 11 days ago) |
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You may have just had weak weed. 300 won't burn the THC off. How long did you cook it out of curiosity?
Just in case anyone is curious, here is what I do with great results everytime (I'm actually headed over to my friend's house to start the process in about an hour. I moved into my current apartment just over a year ago and my oven goes in 50 degree increments!!! What!?!?):
1. Grind the MJ, put it on tin foil and bake at 240 degrees (F) for 30 mins. *
2. Mix organic Peanut Butter with a little oil (Olive, Coconut, Vegetable, it doesn't matter) and place in a container. A little liquidy is good; it will condense by the end of this process.
3. Mix the MJ in the oil/PB concoction. If you lick the fork you may catch a little buzz **
4. Shake the container each day for anywhere from 1-4 weeks (I guess you could go longer, depending on patience and when you plan on eating them. ***
5. Pour the beautiful deliciously-smelling liquidy MJ concoction into cupcake paper in a cupcake rack (the liquidy concoction will spill over the sides of a cracker).
6. Bake at 320 degrees F for 22mins. ****
7. Let sit until cool. The liquidy concoction will now be solid enough to spread on crackers. It will be very oily, but will be spreadable. EAT!
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* I have also done 250 degrees for 15 mins like the video. It works very well. I have noticed that the 240 for 30 seems more potent, but it is VERY possible that there were other factors, like more potent MJ or more MJ per cracker, placebo effect, etc. 250 for 15 mins works great.
** I use a toothpick as a mixer to make sure as much MJ as possible stays in the container.
*** You can skip this step. However, through experimenting with side-by-side tests using the same strain and taking samples from the same container, I have found that letting the MJ steep in the oil/PB for a while increases potency. After noticing this I did some research, and sure enough, the MJ will continue to decarboxylize (albeit not as intensely as when it's in the oven) as it steeps in the fats.
**** I have also had success with this weird method that I saw on the interweb: 300 degrees F for 20 mins, then turn up to 350 and take them out after 2 more minutes. It will only be at 350 for a handful of seconds. I personally don't think this changes a thing, but I thought I'd let you all know that I tried it twice after reading about it and it does work. I prefer the simplicity of setting it at 320 and letting it be for the duration.
Sorry for the long post, but if you do all of this, along with letting it steep for a few weeks, WOW!
I like that I came across this today; I literally haven't made these since I moved into my new place over a year ago and am leaving in about 2 minutes to start the process at my buddy's house. In a few weeks I am going to go to the moon!
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Re: Firecracker question [Re: OakTree]
#24023462 - 01/19/17 05:06 PM (7 years, 11 days ago) |
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I thought the whole point of firecrackers was they're easier than usual to bake than other edibles (like temps etc are more forgiving).
I've cooked decent firecrackers on a pizazz a couple times
Guess maybe i just got lucky.
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I think the main benefit is how quick they are made.
Generally edibles have at least 2 steps. Make the ganja butter or oil and then cook it into whatever food you intend to make.
Firecrackers take the 2 steps and combine/ simplify them. Also becouse you mix in and eat the weed instead of cooking it into oil and straining you get the most out of it.
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True I will try the 30 at 240 decarb , and yes I did wrap them in foil and baked 20 at 300 though. Lots of great replys , thanks!
And no it was pretty decent bud , i think the issue was definetely with the proccess
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Try .5 possibly or even .3 after a break.
I need to take a solid break then I want to eat some fairly strong edibles.
You have to be careful because it can get intense but cannabis hallucinations are pretty crazy.
Once as a kid I was seeing faint mandalas with my eyes open or closed after eating edibles and toking all night.
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True, the point is usually to make it easier than, say, brownies, but I don't care so much about making it easier as far as how many steps and how long it takes; I like that with firecrackers it is easier to make 1 or 2 or 3 or so at a time instead of making a whole batch of brownies. I just like to eat 1 firecracker every 3-4 months, and give a few to my friends, and it's easy to do with about half of an eighth, instead of using a quarter or more. I guess I could just measure out 1/5 of a box of brownie mix and use 1/5 of the ingredients, but I find that it's easier to just eyeball a little bit of PB and oil, and if I know it's going to be a month or so before I eat it, letting it steep in the PB/oil mix for a few weeks noticeably increases potency. It continues to decarboxylate (albeit not as much as in the oven) as it sits in the PB/oil.
Also, if the box of brownie mix calls for 1 egg, I don't trust myself to adequately measure out 1/5 of an egg
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musiclover420 said: Try .5 possibly or even .3 after a break.
I need to take a solid break then I want to eat some fairly strong edibles.
You have to be careful because it can get intense but cannabis hallucinations are pretty crazy.
Once as a kid I was seeing faint mandalas with my eyes open or closed after eating edibles and toking all night.
That's what I'm talking about! That's what I mean when I say that I like to do them once every 3-4 months. I try not to smoke more than twice a month, because I love MJ so much, but when my tolerance is up it's just not the same. Low tolerance + large dose = great time. I have had many visuals on MJ, just have to get that tolerance low and then go balls to the walls haha!
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Re: Firecracker question [Re: OakTree]
#24025803 - 01/20/17 02:32 PM (7 years, 10 days ago) |
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Most of these instructions seem really over the top for firecrackers, and I have a ton of experience with them.
-decarb for 20-30 minutes on some foil at 250f -use around 2-3 servings of natural peanut butter (16g of fat per serving or more) no need for the extra oil at all -personally, I don't like the taste of firecrackers so I make a circle of peanut butter on foil, add the herb as finely broken down as possible -fold the circle onto itself to create a half moon shape and seal the edges as well as you can -bake for 20 minutes at 320f -put the foil packet in the freezer for 10 minutes if you're impatient -use a spoon to eat the hardened weed/peanut slop -become floored
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Gr33nTree73 said: Most of these instructions seem really over the top for firecrackers, and I have a ton of experience with them.
-decarb for 20-30 minutes on some foil at 250f -use around 2-3 servings of natural peanut butter (16g of fat per serving or more) no need for the extra oil at all -personally, I don't like the taste of firecrackers so I make a circle of peanut butter on foil, add the herb as finely broken down as possible -fold the circle onto itself to create a half moon shape and seal the edges as well as you can -bake for 20 minutes at 320f -put the foil packet in the freezer for 10 minutes if you're impatient -use a spoon to eat the hardened weed/peanut slop -become floored
Yeah idk about soaking and all that just seems unnecessary, I'll give your method a go this next week and post my experience
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Yes, steeping is unnecessary, I admitted that on note 3 (***). However, if you don't plan on eating them for a few weeks, I did a side-by-side test with the same batch of decarboxylated MJ and all 3 people who ate them both the same night and then again in a month after steeping agreed that after steeping they were more potent. They were still hella potent to begin with, but steeping them took it a bit further. If you are looking to eat them within a few days, I would not recommend steeping it. However, if you know you are not going to eat them for a month or more, give it a shot; you may be glad you did.
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Re: Firecracker question [Re: OakTree]
#24025855 - 01/20/17 02:53 PM (7 years, 10 days ago) |
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I wouldn't want my method to be any stronger. I have given more than a few of my friends a difficult time because they wanted my peanut butter using the same dose I use for myself, usually .7ish of high grade.
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Cool. Understood. Yea, that shit can get intense. I usually end up laying on the floor watching kaleidoscopes on the back of my eyelids; that's what I go for, but I can understand how someone could have a difficult time. I wouldn't want to do it if I had to be even the least bit social. I usually do it alone.
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Re: Firecracker question [Re: OakTree]
#24025880 - 01/20/17 03:00 PM (7 years, 10 days ago) |
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Edibles are my favorite but when they go wrong, they go wrong. I'd rather have a bad trip on a high dose of mushrooms than loose myself on weed edibles. Not that you don't get mind fuck while tripping but the mind fuck from oral cannabis can cause some really paranoid delusions in comparison.
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Re: Firecracker question [Re: OakTree]
#24025909 - 01/20/17 03:14 PM (7 years, 10 days ago) |
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I need to work towards a similiar habit. I tend to smoke daily and I still get pretty blazed but it's nowhere near as intense which is good and bad.
Thankfully I don't get much cannabis anxiety/ paranoia these days especially with a tolerance but after a long break it happens much easier.
Awhile back I went on a week or 2 long vacation. When I came home I dabbed a bit at a friends apartment and got retarded 
The next day I drove home and proceeded to take 5-10 dabs throughout the evening after taking like 150-200 mg of harmine/ harmaline.
I got so high I felt like a tweaker I was having faint OEV's such as sparkly/ shimmering air and feeling super stimulated. Usually cannabis interferes with meditation for me but this evening I actually managed to meditate while baked out my gourd. Anyways I had a interesting experience, I could see my heart beating with my eyes closed as I meditated and could watch the blood flow throughout my body with each beat...
It was one of the more intense cannabis experiences I have had. One day after a nice brake I want to give it another go.
Sadly harmalas and kratom are probably not a safe mix so until I take a kratom break no harmine/ harmaline for me
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Gr33nTree73,
Indeed, it's definitely a different type of anxiety. My worst experience was on mushrooms, but it was caused by someone sober messing with me and causing a mind loop. Without someone messing with you, a bad mushroom trip can still be enlightening, though it may be a bit scary at times.
Anxiety from edibles, by contrast, can just pop up and stay there, and is quite delusional as you said (aka hearing an otherwise normal noise outside and assuming someone or something is lurking and listening haha).
When I eat MJ edibles by myself, I usually take a couple shots of Jaegermeister to relax, lay back with my eyes closed and let it rip! I just go into it with the intention of doing nothing but watching the patterns on the back of my eyelids and deep breathing my way through the moments of chest knots, which do happen from time to time.
As a matter of fact, this is quite interesting. I used to dread anxiety until I had a job where I had to publicly speak several times a month. After about 6 months (a total of a few dozen public speaking appearances), I noticed that the knots in my chest are nothing more than adrenaline (fight-or flight instinct basically), and there is nothing I can do to stop it, but they don't actually do any harm. So I eventually reached a point where I welcomed that feeling, because if I could control it I could actually speak better, similar to how if you can control adrenaline while playing sports you can actually play better (athletes call it being "in the zone").
It will always be a weird and alien feeling, however.
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Re: Firecracker question [Re: OakTree]
#24025977 - 01/20/17 03:37 PM (7 years, 10 days ago) |
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musiclover420,
I hear ya. I've never actually dabbed, but I'd like to try it. I've had times when I smoked daily for a while, but I now much prefer taking breaks between each time. It allows the MJ to give me a similar feeling to those first few times, and that feeling is what made me love it to begin with.
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Re: Firecracker question [Re: OakTree]
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That heartbeat/bloodflow visual sounds awesome too! I meditate often, but I have never been able to meditate on MJ. My mind moves around too much, which defeats the purpose. I've always thought that it would be awesome to successfully meditate on MJ, just never been able to make it past 10 mins or so without having to get up.
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Re: Firecracker question [Re: OakTree]
#24026066 - 01/20/17 04:01 PM (7 years, 10 days ago) |
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No offence to you oak, I'm just more of an instant gratification kinda guy
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None taken man! Thanks for starting this thread btw; I've enjoyed it very much. I'm a big firecracker fan !!!
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Re: Firecracker question [Re: OakTree]
#24026136 - 01/20/17 04:21 PM (7 years, 10 days ago) |
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Yeah, I've been a long time smoker but only attempted this once along time ago (age 17, 25 now) when the "tek" I read did t even mention decarbing . but I won't be discouraged, going to give it another go and report back.
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Re: Firecracker question [Re: OakTree]
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I hear ya. I've never actually dabbed, but I'd like to try it. I've had times when I smoked daily for a while, but I now much prefer taking breaks between each time. It allows the MJ to give me a similar feeling to those first few times, and that feeling is what made me love it to begin with.
Dabs are like the best are worst parts of cannabis without the plant matter. What I mean is most BHO is pretty damn potent but it usually doesn't have as wide a range of cannabinoids as a nice indica will. So the effects can feel much "smoother" sometimes becouse you might be smoking 70-80%+ THC I bought some oil that is tested at 95% THC and like 2-3% CBD/ related compunds.
It has very little flavor but it super smooth both to smoke and also in its effects. At the same time dabs can give you a huge tolerance really quick and be intense.
I have smoked way more then I should over the years so dabs are nice becouse it is more of a vapor and is easier of the throat when used reasonably.
Dabbing hash or kief is my favorite really as it is more natural and tasty often times and the effects are more well rounded then BHO and other oils.
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OakTree said: That heartbeat/bloodflow visual sounds awesome too! I meditate often, but I have never been able to meditate on MJ. My mind moves around too much, which defeats the purpose. I've always thought that it would be awesome to successfully meditate on MJ, just never been able to make it past 10 mins or so without having to get up.
I don't meditate much probably becouse I am stoned all the time and that makes my attention span to short 
The harmalas are sedating though and tend to put me in a trance of sorts though, I was pretty impressed and surpised I managed to focus for awhile considering how stimulated the dabs had made. The heart/ blood visual was really interesting though. Only time I have felt so close to my own body really. Harmine/ harmaline are very interesting, they need a lot of caution and respect to be used safely though.
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musiclover420 said: I bought some oil that is tested at 95% THC and like 2-3% CBD/ related compounds.
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Re: Firecracker question [Re: OakTree]
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musiclover420 said: I bought some oil that is tested at 95% THC and like 2-3% CBD/ related compounds.
That's INSANE
Yeah it is definitely the strongest stuff I have seen tested. Who knows how accurate it is but it had very little taste so I could see it being 98~% cannabinoids.
Surprisingly it actually has a really smooth high, it was like 35$ a gram while on sale worth it just to try it out though.
I still have a very little bit stashed. When I get a better income I can't wait to start trying out random buds and extracts/ edibles
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So trying it again, I've got .4 decarbing now 22 mins at 250 degrees. I'll post my progress here's for hoping this is better
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