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OfflineGr8Pyramid
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Seeking the spirit world with shroom use
    #24020839 - 01/18/17 06:00 PM (7 years, 12 days ago)

Hello!

First off, let me say that I'm new to this forum and to mushroom use in general. I found this site while trying to find out more about using mushrooms to enter the spirit world and I've enjoyed reading over the info posted here.  It has definitely helped me with some of my questions!

I'm putting this post in the spiritual - mysticism section because that is the goal I am trying to achieve with mushroom use. After reading what people like Graham Hancock and Terence McKenna described when they used mushrooms, I have made the decision that I would also like to take this journey. Let me also add that I'm not looking to use mushrooms for recreational party use.

I've been doing meditation work a few times a week for about a year now and want to incorporate the use of mushrooms into my meditation about once a month or so.  I'm very anxious to see and experience the other realities made accessible by using mushrooms while I'm meditating.

I have not had any luck finding mushrooms for sale in the area where I live, so unfortunately, it is looking like I will need to grow my own if I want to give this experience a try. I would like to buy some mushrooms first to see if I like the experience rather than investing time in growing them myself or hunting for them in nature, but buying them just doesn't seem to be an option for me at this time. I do understand that growing them myself is the safest and most sustainable option in the long run, so maybe it's a good thing that I'll need to grow my own to give shrooms a try. 

I'm curious to know if there is a certain type of mushroom that would be the best to use for this purpose?  I've been leaning towards one named the Golden Teacher. Also, Terence Mckenna recommends starting at 5 dried grams to have a complete experience with mushrooms, but many others say it's best to start with a lower amount first to see how the body will react to them. I'm wondering what amount you all would suggest as a good starting point for a newbie to achieve the experience I want to have?  Also, please post any other recommendations you think will help me have a good first trip.

I'll be sure to post my trip report once I'm able to get there!

Thanks for the help and any guidance sent my way...  Peace!


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Re: Seeking the spirit world with shroom use [Re: Gr8Pyramid]
    #24020867 - 01/18/17 06:16 PM (7 years, 12 days ago)

1 g i say would be best and fasting before you take it is good unless your not healthy enough to fast of course


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Re: Seeking the spirit world with shroom use [Re: alfonseelrick]
    #24020889 - 01/18/17 06:21 PM (7 years, 12 days ago)

What dude? i just started growing and i ate 4 grams dried of golden teachers (cubes). Yes it was a nice trip but it could have been way more intense. I never got past level 3 and this comes from somebody who has not tripped in over 5 years prior to taking that recent dose.


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Re: Seeking the spirit world with shroom use [Re: alfonseelrick]
    #24020910 - 01/18/17 06:27 PM (7 years, 12 days ago)

Okay, so you're thinking it's best to start with a little and then work my way up?  I am healthy and fasting will not be an issue. From what I've read, I was planning to fast.  I've also read about chanting if the trip starts getting to crazy.


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Re: Seeking the spirit world with shroom use [Re: sofloshroomster]
    #24020918 - 01/18/17 06:30 PM (7 years, 12 days ago)

4g... This is good to know. I definitely want to travel with my experience.


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Re: Seeking the spirit world with shroom use [Re: Gr8Pyramid]
    #24021690 - 01/18/17 11:22 PM (7 years, 11 days ago)

Yea just to be safe, to see how you react. Its all up to you though. Ive never chanted before but it doesnt usually get crazy for me. Ehen it does I assert that Im in control of my emotions. After youve had a few 5 g trips go back to 1 g you might be able to tune yourself to obtain awesome trips on 1 g.


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Re: Seeking the spirit world with shroom use [Re: alfonseelrick]
    #24021910 - 01/19/17 03:39 AM (7 years, 11 days ago)

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Yea just to be safe, to see how you react. Its all up to you though. Ive never chanted before but it doesnt usually get crazy for me. Ehen it does I assert that Im in control of my emotions. After youve had a few 5 g trips go back to 1 g you might be able to tune yourself to obtain awesome trips on 1 g.



Thanks, man...  That does sound like a safe and good plan. Unfortunately, I have vacations planned in February and March, so I'll have to wait until April to start growing. One of my trips will be to Mexico, so maybe I'll luck out and find some for sale there.


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Re: Seeking the spirit world with shroom use [Re: Gr8Pyramid]
    #24022471 - 01/19/17 09:45 AM (7 years, 11 days ago)

my first trip i took 2.5g in nature with my close friends who were all dosed up too, if you can i would recommend you do it this way, get as far as you can from the city in nature some where with a lot of star visibility, and with a close friend, who will not be killing your vibe.

if you do want to stay home and meditate i'd say go a bit bigger maybe 3g cause your in a safer environment. make sure you have a scale or something to measure this shit out too.

i dont like tripping indoors but thats my preference.


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Re: Seeking the spirit world with shroom use [Re: Green7Alchemist]
    #24022696 - 01/19/17 11:22 AM (7 years, 11 days ago)

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Green7Alchemist said:
my first trip i took 2.5g in nature with my close friends who were all dosed up too, if you can i would recommend you do it this way, get as far as you can from the city in nature some where with a lot of star visibility, and with a close friend, who will not be killing your vibe.

if you do want to stay home and meditate i'd say go a bit bigger maybe 3g cause your in a safer environment. make sure you have a scale or something to measure this shit out too.

i dont like tripping indoors but thats my preference.




This all sounds like good advice. I like the nature aspect too. I have no close friends who share my desire to try mushrooms and I don't plan on letting anyone know that I'm doing this, so I'll be taking the journey alone. I'll also need to wait for some warmer weather if I decide to try them outside. As of now, I'm planning to be in a dark room in my home and listening to my meditation music for my first trip. Thanks for the input!


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Re: Seeking the spirit world with shroom use [Re: Gr8Pyramid]
    #24022965 - 01/19/17 01:41 PM (7 years, 11 days ago)

In that case by all means do your ceremony indoors,

remember to take time with yourself, be romantic  :cuddles:  and above all else have fun bro, i can tell your head is in the right place you will have some great insights :thumbup:

and idk maybe try to PM a member on the sight and do a trade with them for some mushy? i never tried it but hey its worth a shot if you cant get your hands on any.

safe travels!! :nyan:


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Edited by Green7Alchemist (01/19/17 01:43 PM)


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Re: Seeking the spirit world with shroom use [Re: Green7Alchemist]
    #24023412 - 01/19/17 04:36 PM (7 years, 11 days ago)

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In that case by all means do your ceremony indoors,

remember to take time with yourself, be romantic  :cuddles:  and above all else have fun bro, i can tell your head is in the right place you will have some great insights :thumbup:

and idk maybe try to PM a member on the sight and do a trade with them for some mushy? i never tried it but hey its worth a shot if you cant get your hands on any.

safe travels!! :nyan:




I'm fairly positive my head is in the right place and if it isn't, I'll sure the mushrooms will show me where to go.  I've been attempting to astral travel through meditation. I've been close a few times and feel like even a small dose of shrooms will help my spirit body leave my physical body. 

It's hard to explain how excited I am about trying them, just wish they were easier to come by. Your info about sending PM's is very helpful. I thought that might be frowned upon here.

Thanks again for the help. Cheers!


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Re: Seeking the spirit world with shroom use [Re: Gr8Pyramid]
    #24023663 - 01/19/17 06:10 PM (7 years, 11 days ago)

Go with truffles, 1 g dry for a good meditation.


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Re: Seeking the spirit world with shroom use [Re: DmTree]
    #24023697 - 01/19/17 06:21 PM (7 years, 11 days ago)

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Go with truffles, 1 g dry for a good meditation.




Thanks...good to know. I was wondering about using them too. Saw them for sale on website based in Amsterdam, but wasn't sure if they'd make it through customs.


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Re: Seeking the spirit world with shroom use [Re: Gr8Pyramid]
    #24023767 - 01/19/17 06:39 PM (7 years, 11 days ago)

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Your info about sending PM's is very helpful. I thought that might be frowned upon here.




:facepalm3: I think so too.


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Re: Seeking the spirit world with shroom use [Re: Green7Alchemist]
    #24024923 - 01/20/17 08:02 AM (7 years, 10 days ago)

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Your info about sending PM's is very helpful. I thought that might be frowned upon here.




:facepalm3: I think so too.




Well, all I'll say is that all PM's sent my way are gladly welcomed!


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Re: Seeking the spirit world with shroom use [Re: Gr8Pyramid]
    #24024976 - 01/20/17 08:27 AM (7 years, 10 days ago)

you can also surf sponsors forum for some reputable shops, maybe a grow kit will get you off on the right foot.

i am also giving cultivating a shot, no luck yet, but each time i learn something new, even tho im not growing i feel i am making progress.


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Re: Seeking the spirit world with shroom use [Re: Green7Alchemist]
    #24025005 - 01/20/17 08:33 AM (7 years, 10 days ago)

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Green7Alchemist said:
you can also surf sponsors forum for some reputable shops, maybe a grow kit will get you off on the right foot.

i am also giving cultivating a shot, no luck yet, but each time i learn something new, even tho im not growing i feel i am making progress.




Yeah, if I can't find anything, growing will be my only option. I'm sure the process will be filled with trial and error, plus my free time is very limited, so growing will be difficult for me to do.


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Re: Seeking the spirit world with shroom use [Re: Gr8Pyramid]
    #24025093 - 01/20/17 09:05 AM (7 years, 10 days ago)

we're in the same boat man, still its an interesting hobby, w lots of benefits, i like the fact that its not easy, makes me appreciate it that much more 

try going to full moon drum circles or hippy gathering, you run into interesting people in those events  :wink:


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Re: Seeking the spirit world with shroom use [Re: Green7Alchemist]
    #24031510 - 01/22/17 06:51 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

I would suggest listening to some talks with Hamilton Souther on youtube. He is a master ayahuasca shaman trained for 14 years by a master with a lineage. Ayahuasca and psilocybin are almost exactly the same molecularly speaking so it stands to reason that techniques should be similar for both medicines.

Listening to this man talk for an hour about shamanism and spirit and the universe was in my opinion more informational than the 200 hours I have spent listening to Terrence Mckenna (Terrence was still a master and a genius)

I am looking for the same information as you when it comes to mushrooms, good luck and be careful and don't hesitate to share insights!


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Re: Seeking the spirit world with shroom use [Re: Gr8Pyramid]
    #24031571 - 01/22/17 07:08 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

A good way to start of badly on this site is to try and solicit illegal substances....
I'm sure with time and effort you will get what your after one way or the other.

It sound like you have put a decent amount of time both studying and practicing the proper approaches to getting the most out of the experience.
A couple of tips... You can never plan out what you are going to receive from the experience the mushroom will always take you were it wants to and you do not want to fight it, look foward to the experience with no preconceptions about what you will get.
Also the chanting may be a bit heavy or steery, if you find yourself in difficulty try and relax breath and know that it's fine your fine and it will be ok...swim used to write "your tripping and your fine, smile." On the back of his hand.


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