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globejs
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New coir product. Should I use it
#24019936 - 01/18/17 01:05 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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So I normally buy 5kg blocks of plain old coir from a hydro store for about 17 dollars. But there's a new product at a local store that's about 2.5 kg of coir that's already broken up for less than 5 dollars. It has some added dried poultry waste and gypsum at a ratio of about 4% of each. Should work just fine right?
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globejs
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Re: New coir product. Should I use it [Re: globejs]
#24019941 - 01/18/17 01:07 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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It aso mentions that it uses compressed coir blocks that have been ground down for "ultimate expandability"
Could it be too ground down?
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azur
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Re: New coir product. Should I use it [Re: globejs]
#24019955 - 01/18/17 01:13 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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Looks awesome. Be sure to pasteurize and not bucket tek it since it has poultry manure in it.
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Re: New coir product. Should I use it [Re: azur]
#24019965 - 01/18/17 01:15 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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daamn. if worried about being ground down just mix in with the bricks. chicken pooo?? yes please.
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globejs
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Re: New coir product. Should I use it [Re: mushboy]
#24020034 - 01/18/17 01:43 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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So I checked what the bucket tek was and found that I do something similar but with some vast improvements. I use about a 5050 mix of horse and coir with some handful of gypsum pellets thrown in.
The big difference is that I use an ice chest to pour the 170 degree water in. And before that I preheat the whole ice chest with boiling water for 10 minutes to heat the whole ice chest up to ensure that the whole substrate stays at temp the whole time, including the corners for 90 to 120 minutes. At that point I transfer the sub to a tote for rapid cooling.
I can do a whole lot with very little work.
The only thing I have to do is fix water content after cooling. I added extra gypsum to the mix to account for any nutes lost when I wring out handfuls of the mix. I've gotten pretty good at eyeballing the water needed so I don't overshoot it with the water as much as I used to.
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globejs
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Re: New coir product. Should I use it [Re: globejs]
#24020040 - 01/18/17 01:45 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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Well the idea was that I wouldn't buy the bricks anymore. They cost more and I have to break them up
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Re: New coir product. Should I use it [Re: globejs]
#24020070 - 01/18/17 01:51 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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globejs said: Could it be too ground down?
Its possible. Coir particle size has an inverse correlation to water retention. Smaller coir fibers hold less water than larger fibers. If its near dust size, it may not be a suitable substrate. Coir dust holds only a fraction of the amount of water as compressed brick stuff
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