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Obishan2
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Cut brf cakes in half.
#24019528 - 01/18/17 10:03 AM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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Well guys. I have made a bunch of brf cakes. They were taking forever to colonize. And the tops were starting to pin. The first ine that pinned i took out completely and put it in the fc. But i have like 4 others that this is happening to. So i decided to cut them in half. And put the top half that was pinning into the fc. And the other half i left in the jars to finish colonizing in my tit. Was this a good idea? Sorry of offend people with my ignorance. With the bottom half finish?
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: Obishan2]
#24019539 - 01/18/17 10:07 AM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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Definitely not a good idea it will let contams up the ass in so it could finish colonizing but they could also get trich or bacteria before they finish cause you let them in when you opened the jars before full colonization
Next time rule of thumb 100% colonization before you birth the cakes the cake might not be fully colonized inside since the bottoms not either meaning the already birthed cakes have a chance at contamination aswell
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: natedawg]
#24019559 - 01/18/17 10:18 AM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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they will pretty much definitely all contam. Did you do any of this in an SAB did you sterilise any of the tools? Even if you did that you will be extremely lucky if you dont get contams.
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#24019586 - 01/18/17 10:28 AM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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Im a lucky kinda guy. And yes i sterilized my knife and whatnot. I only did it to 3 cakes. Still have a few left.
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: Obishan2]
#24019647 - 01/18/17 10:55 AM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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Those uncolonized portions are damn near guaranteed to go funky.
Once your spores germinated if it took more than a couple weeks to fully colonize then I would bet you have something wrong with your grow.
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wildernessjunkie said: Those uncolonized portions are damn near guaranteed to go funky.
Once your spores germinated if it took more than a couple weeks to fully colonize then I would bet you have something wrong with your grow.
Usually takes 4 weeks for me ive only ever had one cake take 3 weeks
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#24019823 - 01/18/17 12:20 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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wildernessjunkie said: Those uncolonized portions are damn near guaranteed to go funky.
Once your spores germinated if it took more than a couple weeks to fully colonize then I would bet you have something wrong with your grow.
Usually takes 4 weeks for me ive only ever had one cake take 3 weeks
same here. About a month for one cake to colonize fully.
also OP, dont use a TIT, room temp is fine for colonizing.
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That is a bad idea.
If the mycelium isnt 100 percent colonized it will more than likely get contaminated when put back in the jar.
Early pinning such as that usually means contam anyway.
Id bury them outside and hope they come up (Withe horse manure)
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: Obishan2]
#24019844 - 01/18/17 12:31 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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Obishan2 said: Im a lucky kinda guy.
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: mushboy]
#24019901 - 01/18/17 12:53 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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I luckily live on horse/cow ranch. If they go ill feed them to cows.
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: Obishan2]
#24019906 - 01/18/17 12:55 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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Cows trippin balls. Its the spores they need to eat lol
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#24019913 - 01/18/17 12:57 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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wait you have cow/hpoo and you are doing pf cakes???? i dont mean to be rude but WTF!?
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: mushboy]
#24019924 - 01/18/17 01:01 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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wildernessjunkie said: Those uncolonized portions are damn near guaranteed to go funky.
Once your spores germinated if it took more than a couple weeks to fully colonize then I would bet you have something wrong with your grow.
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: VYBEv2]
#24019954 - 01/18/17 01:12 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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Yeah. Tons of all that around here. This is my first grow. Didnt wanna do hard stuff just yet. Whats better? Horse or cow? Cows in top pasture, horses in bottom. I was trying get some lc from this. Then off to bulk grow.
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: Obishan2]
#24019997 - 01/18/17 01:30 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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Obishan2 said: Yeah. Tons of all that around here. This is my first grow. Didnt wanna do hard stuff just yet. Whats better? Horse or cow? Cows in top pasture, horses in bottom. I was trying get some lc from this. Then off to bulk grow.
i like hpoo. hpoo mixed with cpoo is awesome too. havent added straw.
its as easy as boiling water for 2 hrs.
skip the LC. do agar. use a grain to spawn to all the shit. become a pasteurizing machine
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: mushboy]
#24020013 - 01/18/17 01:36 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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Thats the plan. Agar seems a bit much for me though. Im just confused as to casing layer/sub layer. 2 separate things? Just havent done the resurch yet as to how to make them.
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: Obishan2]
#24020174 - 01/18/17 02:26 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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Next time try the proper jars..if ya ever have to birth early simply rinse the uncolonized spots off gently under the faucet
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: cronicr]
#24020280 - 01/18/17 02:55 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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Thats actually the only helpful post on here. Much obliged
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: Obishan2]
#24020298 - 01/18/17 02:59 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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Thats rude plenty gave you advice and answered your question me included just because its not what you wanted to hear
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#24020328 - 01/18/17 03:08 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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mrmazdarx9 said: Thats rude plenty gave you advice and answered your question me included just because its not what you wanted to hear
True dat!
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#24021834 - 01/19/17 01:41 AM (7 years, 11 days ago) |
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mrmazdarx9 said: Thats rude plenty gave you advice and answered your question me included just because its not what you wanted to hear
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: natedawg]
#24023266 - 01/19/17 03:36 PM (7 years, 11 days ago) |
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Mix some horse n some cow manure..you can use your cakes as spawn...post some pics of your cakes
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: cronicr]
#24023427 - 01/19/17 04:41 PM (7 years, 11 days ago) |
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my half cakes still in the jars are fine. They are still colonizing and consolidating. No signs of contam. I love proving the "experts" wrong. The ones in my fc are doing the damn thing also.
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: Obishan2]
#24023432 - 01/19/17 04:42 PM (7 years, 11 days ago) |
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I might take my other half cakes and some poo and put em together tomorrow.
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: Obishan2]
#24023452 - 01/19/17 04:58 PM (7 years, 11 days ago) |
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my half cakes still in the jars are fine. They are still colonizing and consolidating. No signs of contam. I love proving the "experts" wrong. The ones in my fc are doing the damn thing also.
looks good from here. I like your hybrid FC.
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: 7munkee]
#24023468 - 01/19/17 05:09 PM (7 years, 11 days ago) |
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: AndyHinton]
#24023497 - 01/19/17 05:22 PM (7 years, 11 days ago) |
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Thanks for advice my friends. And im hoping on no mold. Im in a basement. And have a de-humidifier that runs 24/7 in here. It stands about hip high. Im hoping that this kills most of the random fungi that float around. And therfore makes contams a little harder. But what do i know? Ill check out rrs video buddy. He seems to know his shit. (Puns for days) the rack figured would help with ae. And fc is a little experiment. We shall see.
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: Obishan2]
#24023516 - 01/19/17 05:28 PM (7 years, 11 days ago) |
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They will mold eventually but hopefully not before a couple fruits and a dehumidifier wont stop the spores at all
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: natedawg]
#24023534 - 01/19/17 05:33 PM (7 years, 11 days ago) |
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The dehumidifier was put here to stop mold... And it worked.. But i do hope i get some fruits. Fingers crossed.
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: Obishan2]
#24023555 - 01/19/17 05:42 PM (7 years, 11 days ago) |
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It stops mold by removing humidity so the spores cant germinate the second those spores hit a wet cake they have enough moisture to germinate.. if your house is humid mold can grow if your fruiting chamber is humid mold can grow in there . The dehumidifier dosent remove spores it removes moisture so the spores dont grow..
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: natedawg]
#24023573 - 01/19/17 05:48 PM (7 years, 11 days ago) |
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: AndyHinton]
#24023585 - 01/19/17 05:51 PM (7 years, 11 days ago) |
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Exactly basements are full of spores. And the cakes being cut makes them vunerable and yea the dehumidifier will keep colonies of trich and whatever else from growing and sporulating making the problem worse i was just stating that it dosent get rid of the spores
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: Obishan2]
#24023592 - 01/19/17 05:54 PM (7 years, 11 days ago) |
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Quote:
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my half cakes still in the jars are fine. They are still colonizing and consolidating. No signs of contam. I love proving the "experts" wrong. The ones in my fc are doing the damn thing also.
Yep as suspected it is your jars causing issues..id watch the attitude though..quick way to lose good help.fuck the dehumidifier good fae is key
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: AndyHinton]
#24023594 - 01/19/17 05:55 PM (7 years, 11 days ago) |
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I guess im winging it a little much? But if you saw how i inoculated them, you would sware to contams. I have opened my jars quite a few times to smell them. Not 1 sign of contams yet. Im hoping my luck holdes.
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: Obishan2]
#24023605 - 01/19/17 05:59 PM (7 years, 11 days ago) |
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Im gonna get different jars for next time. Smaller ones.
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: Obishan2]
#24023608 - 01/19/17 06:00 PM (7 years, 11 days ago) |
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Half pint widemouth
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: cronicr]
#24023619 - 01/19/17 06:02 PM (7 years, 11 days ago) |
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Noted
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: natedawg]
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: AndyHinton]
#24023628 - 01/19/17 06:04 PM (7 years, 11 days ago) |
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I fucking love shitake.
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: AndyHinton]
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natedawg said: Exactly basements are full of spores.
Assume everything is contaminated before you handle it. That mindset solved many problems for me, not by absolving blame for mistakes, but by realizing there are different methods when you have no access to a P1 culture slant in front of a laminar flow hood in a clean room.
Also, this should go without saying, but always listen to people like cronicr over me. I'm posting a bunch of horse shit about horse shit, then peaceing out to the marketplace where I can get, e.g., shiitake 3872 for less than $250.
I have no idea what you are saying. Totally went greak on me.
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: Obishan2]
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: AndyHinton]
#24023789 - 01/19/17 06:48 PM (7 years, 11 days ago) |
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Lol noted
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: Obishan2]
#24024689 - 01/20/17 03:00 AM (7 years, 10 days ago) |
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did you inoculate with those lids??? if so the GE would cause the stalling for sure.
and the I am not sure but uneven disbursement of the spores with a lid like that might play a part.
All thats needed is 4 small inoc points and an airy layer of verm on top the sub in the jars
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: VYBEv2]
#24028726 - 01/21/17 05:27 PM (7 years, 9 days ago) |
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hey guys.. I can shrooms. On "contaminated" cakes.
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: Obishan2]
#24028880 - 01/21/17 06:34 PM (7 years, 9 days ago) |
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What makes u suspect contams?
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: cronicr]
#24028886 - 01/21/17 06:36 PM (7 years, 9 days ago) |
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Everyone said they would have contams. Im just messing around.
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: Obishan2]
#24028979 - 01/21/17 07:11 PM (7 years, 9 days ago) |
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Oh lol I think they are talking about the ones u put back in the jars
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: cronicr]
#24028981 - 01/21/17 07:13 PM (7 years, 9 days ago) |
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They absolutely were. How are the ones in the jars doing?
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: Dactylium]
#24029752 - 01/22/17 06:46 AM (7 years, 8 days ago) |
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I pulled those out and,Well it already has a mushroom coming from one of them. I have about 8 visable pins this morning. 4 on left are top of cakes. 4 on right are the bottoms i let sit for a few more days. Pins on both. Im stoked.
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: Obishan2]
#24038153 - 01/25/17 09:33 AM (7 years, 5 days ago) |
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these look strange to yall? What do you think?
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: Obishan2]
#24038578 - 01/25/17 12:48 PM (7 years, 5 days ago) |
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Looks fine
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: cronicr]
#24043315 - 01/27/17 09:43 AM (7 years, 3 days ago) |
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Guys. You were right. I was wrong. Found some contams on one of my cakes. I threw it out. But all my other cakes are doing great. Huge pin sets. actually curious if too many pins are bad? Some of them are overlapping. And constricting some of others. Let me know what you think.
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: Obishan2] 1
#24043592 - 01/27/17 12:09 PM (7 years, 3 days ago) |
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Don't sweat it your mushrooms know how many pins they can handle, worse case some abort but it's no biggie
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: cronicr]
#24043657 - 01/27/17 12:30 PM (7 years, 3 days ago) |
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Dude. You are a godeand. I seen one brf cake on here with half as many pins as i have. Im stoked. I owe it all to u guys. And the good vibes i send them.
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: Obishan2]
#24043671 - 01/27/17 12:35 PM (7 years, 3 days ago) |
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Check out my super shroom. Veal is about done breaking. Im stoked.
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: Obishan2]
#24043750 - 01/27/17 01:07 PM (7 years, 3 days ago) |
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Haha hell yeah. I had a monster like that pop up on my first and only PF tek grow. That shit blew my gourd when I ate it. Enjoy
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: Dactylium]
#24043846 - 01/27/17 01:38 PM (7 years, 3 days ago) |
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Thanks man I will. its hard waiting for it to get done. But at the same time i want there to be enough weight on it to trip.
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: Obishan2]
#24043985 - 01/27/17 02:32 PM (7 years, 3 days ago) |
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: Mr Piggy] 1
#24044003 - 01/27/17 02:38 PM (7 years, 3 days ago) |
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I know this shroom is a freak. But its my first grow, and agar just seems overwhelming right now. Im gonna spore print it for sure. Its just a route i havent even considered at this point. Once i get a few more under my belt. Ill try it out.
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: Obishan2]
#24044017 - 01/27/17 02:43 PM (7 years, 3 days ago) |
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Sounds like a plan.
Make sure to label your prints!
I made the mistake in the beginning of not labeling anything 
Nice first grow, congrats!
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Thanks buddy. I owe it all to this site. Couldn't have done it without yall. And i will be sure to label it.
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#24044200 - 01/27/17 03:26 PM (7 years, 3 days ago) |
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freak of nature!
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: Obishan2]
#24044780 - 01/27/17 05:53 PM (7 years, 3 days ago) |
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damn, thats a monster!
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: Obishan2]
#24048243 - 01/29/17 08:04 AM (7 years, 1 day ago) |
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Quote:
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freak of nature!
lol I had B+ do exactly that my last run. Nice.
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Re: Cut brf cakes in half. [Re: Axn]
#24048262 - 01/29/17 08:19 AM (7 years, 1 day ago) |
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Nice. This is pes amazonian
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