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OfflineFlyOnTheWall
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Re: Obama Cuts Sentences to Hundreds of Drug Offenders [Re: EastBayRay]
    #24025571 - 01/20/17 12:57 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

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MagicMush123 said:
You support treason? Interesting stance







Obama has committed numerous acts of treason against the USA.

Obama swore to uphold the laws of the US Constitution when he was sworn into office. He also swore to protect America from threats that are both foreign and domestic.

Obama voted in favor of many bills and expanded laws already on the books that violate the Constitution. Some of which include the use of drone killings, expansion of electronic spying, torture, the NDAA, the Patriot Act, and limiting the right to bear arms.  By violating the Constitution in this way, he has committed treason against the United States of America and, assuming he is really a US Citizen, is also a domestic terrorist because he has successfully attacked America from the inside.  He has also committed perjury because he lied under oath.

I feel similarly about his predecessors, Bush and Cheney.




Did you mean to quote me? Because I'm not sure how your comment is relevant to mine.

The only thing I have talked about in this thread so far is whether or not Bradley Manning committed treason.

He did not.

Neither did Obama or Hillary.

That is not debatable.

If you think otherwise, you do not understand what the word 'treason' means in the context of U.S. law.

Here you go again ARTICLE 3 SECTION 3 of the CONSTITUTION -
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Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to
their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony
of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.




You can call him the worst president ever. I don't care, and I won't argue with you. But to say that he committed treason is idiotic. Treason is when you actively join the enemy and wage war against the U.S.

At no point did Obama join our enemies and actually wage war against the U.S.

I'll say it again - doing something stupid that ends up hurting your country IS NOT TREASON.

I'm not trying to defend Obama, Hillary, Trump, or Manning, but to say that any of those people has ever committed treason is wrong. It just doesn't work like that.


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Re: Obama Cuts Sentences to Hundreds of Drug Offenders [Re: FlyOnTheWall]
    #24025632 - 01/20/17 01:11 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

Here it is one more time.

ARTICLE 3 SECTION 3 of the CONSTITUTION -
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Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to
their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.
No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony
of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.




I just want to make sure you guys understand this, because politics aside, you really do sound
stupid when you accuse people of treason without knowing what it actually is.

One of the reasons treason law is set up like this in the US is because in England back then,
treason laws were more in line with what you guys seem to think the word means. Basically, anytime somebody
did something that was perceived as hurting the King/royalty/the country, the King could punish them for treason. 

Fortunately, the people who wrote the CONSTITUTION were a little smarter than you, and they gave it a much more narrow definition.

One more time -

Obama did not commit treason.
Hillary did not commit treason.
Manning did not commit treason.

I know how much fun it is to accuse people of treason, but just because you say it over and over again doesn't mean it makes any sense.


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Re: Obama Cuts Sentences to Hundreds of Drug Offenders [Re: FlyOnTheWall]
    #24025645 - 01/20/17 01:17 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

we got some really funny fucks on this site it's crazy to think they eat stuff off the ground...


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Re: Obama Cuts Sentences to Hundreds of Drug Offenders [Re: Konyap] * 1
    #24025697 - 01/20/17 01:45 PM (7 years, 10 days ago)

What about Hillary arming the Libyan rebels, you ask? Nope, definitely not treason. Lol. Not even close.

Anyone who has been paying any attention at all for the last six decades knows that's just business as usual.

Remember when Reagan armed the Taliban so they could fight the Soviets and then they used all
those weapons against us later?

Yep, sorry. That wasn't treason either.

I'll be happy to provide more examples of things that aren't treason if you guys are still having trouble.


Edited by FlyOnTheWall (01/20/17 01:51 PM)


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Re: Obama Cuts Sentences to Hundreds of Drug Offenders [Re: Sheekle]
    #24026817 - 01/20/17 09:21 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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pft F the crack dealers he shoulda saved pot molly acid shrooms dealers instead. whatevz tho, hopefully the crack dealers quit being assholes in jail or sumthin, doubt it tho.




At least this retard didn't vote


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