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cultivating mycelium for artistic purposes
    #24016672 - 01/17/17 07:30 AM (7 years, 13 days ago)

I want to try using mycelium as a sculptural medium but I have no experience with growing mushrooms. My questions are 1. Are there any transparent or translucent substances that can support mycelium growth (preferably something gelatinous or that can somewhat retain its shape)? 2. What mushroom species has an aggressively growing mycelium that would be easy to grow and maintain for such a purpose?


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Re: cultivating mycelium for artistic purposes [Re: D.little91]
    #24016676 - 01/17/17 07:33 AM (7 years, 13 days ago)

Oyster and cube mycelium very aggressive and easy to get hands on and agar


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Re: cultivating mycelium for artistic purposes [Re: D.little91]
    #24016677 - 01/17/17 07:33 AM (7 years, 13 days ago)

1. Yes agar.
2. Cubes are easy as hell to grow


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Re: cultivating mycelium for artistic purposes [Re: D.little91]
    #24016679 - 01/17/17 07:34 AM (7 years, 13 days ago)

1 yes agar
2 cubes are easy as hell to grow


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Re: cultivating mycelium for artistic purposes [Re: natedawg]
    #24018033 - 01/17/17 05:56 PM (7 years, 13 days ago)

Thanks you guys I am going to look into it and I will post anything that I wind up making.  I think it would be really cool to incorporate cube mycelium into a sculpture.  It would be fun to make it into an installation and then encourage people to harvest any mushrooms should they grow.  I'll have to look into the legal aspects of displaying something like that but I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.


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Re: cultivating mycelium for artistic purposes [Re: D.little91]
    #24018064 - 01/17/17 06:13 PM (7 years, 13 days ago)

:rofl:


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Re: cultivating mycelium for artistic purposes [Re: Munchauzen]
    #24018092 - 01/17/17 06:24 PM (7 years, 13 days ago)

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Re: cultivating mycelium for artistic purposes [Re: D.little91]
    #24018100 - 01/17/17 06:26 PM (7 years, 13 days ago)

you might want to work with ganoderma sp. (reishi and others) they form rather hard, solid, strong blocks after some time if you dry them out.


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Re: cultivating mycelium for artistic purposes [Re: leschampignons]
    #24018269 - 01/17/17 07:22 PM (7 years, 13 days ago)

^^^ I saw a guy who uses Ganoderma to make leather and furniture. He smashed a can with a brick made of mycelium. Was cool as shit.


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Re: cultivating mycelium for artistic purposes [Re: themadextractor]
    #24018334 - 01/17/17 07:44 PM (7 years, 13 days ago)

Tbh much of my mush cult interest is in photography so I feel you, and while I haven't done anything in 3D/sculpting media, I imagine it would be possible to create substrates shaped in clay molds and colonized in bags. You'd just need a way to sterilize and keep em clean while they colonize.

On the other hand, substrates change shape and density as they grow and are spent as does the mycelium itself, so any molded or sculpted substrate turned into art will be by nature impermanent. In fact, depending on the level of detail of these hypothetical molded objects I'm envisioning here, they may not even resemble the image the mold was meant to portray after a few days of growth (see: any overgrown chia pet).

Any sculpted art which would be carved out of a block of colonized substrate would suffer from severe bruising and injury (though it can recover), and would be more vulnerable to fruiting-stage contams/parasites. By the same token, if this was a significantly large installment (that is, larger than say, your average monotub) it would not only require its own greenhouse, but if left exposed to certain climates (where would or even could such piece be displayed?) it would quickly become a giant ball of mold no longer named The Thinker, but "The Stinker" by all year-end school field trip students. Who will touch it, despite the red velvet ropes.

Okay I may have wandered into the weirdly specific hypothetical, but the point is I'm betting it's possible (to create sculpture from colonized substrates and/or agar [tbh agar's prolly your best bet]) but will require quite a lot of compromise in how it could be composed and/or handled.


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Re: cultivating mycelium for artistic purposes [Re: Aneres]
    #24018372 - 01/17/17 07:58 PM (7 years, 13 days ago)

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D.little91 said:
I want to try using mycelium as a sculptural medium but I have no experience with growing mushrooms. My questions are 1. Are there any transparent or translucent substances that can support mycelium growth (preferably something gelatinous or that can somewhat retain its shape)? 2. What mushroom species has an aggressively growing mycelium that would be easy to grow and maintain for such a purpose?


Thanks




Whoa! Sounds exactly like Agar! :incredible:

Looks like u have been growing mycelium :awesomenod:


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Re: cultivating mycelium for artistic purposes [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #24018386 - 01/17/17 08:02 PM (7 years, 13 days ago)

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Re: cultivating mycelium for artistic purposes [Re: amidogen]
    #24018461 - 01/17/17 08:26 PM (7 years, 13 days ago)

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Re: cultivating mycelium for artistic purposes [Re: amidogen]
    #24018580 - 01/17/17 09:25 PM (7 years, 13 days ago)

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Speaking of agar art, check out Mad Season's sig for some.




His stuff is legit.

I believe he used bacteria not mycelium.

But beautiful none-the-less.


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Re: cultivating mycelium for artistic purposes [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #24018588 - 01/17/17 09:28 PM (7 years, 13 days ago)

Check this thread out hes made some great stuff with mycelium https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23895972/page/3


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Re: cultivating mycelium for artistic purposes [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #24018719 - 01/17/17 10:46 PM (7 years, 13 days ago)

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LogicaL Chaos said:
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amidogen said:
Speaking of agar art, check out Mad Season's sig for some.




His stuff is legit.

I believe he used bacteria not mycelium.

But beautiful none-the-less.



:cheers:

But credits don't go to me, it goes to http://www.microbialart.com


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Re: cultivating mycelium for artistic purposes [Re: Mad Season]
    #24019086 - 01/18/17 03:27 AM (7 years, 12 days ago)

This company builds various things out of mycelium http://www.ecovativedesign.com/mushroom-packaging

You can sculpt it to any shape. Once it's grown into the right shape, it's dried out and is like styrofoam. They also make furniture etc out of mycelium, hemp and starch. Crazy stuff :smile:

You can buy "grow it yourself material" to mess around with https://shop.ecovativedesign.com/collections/home/products/grow-it-yourself-material

I haven't tried any of this but heard about it and think it's a great replacement for styrofoam etc.

Piptoporus betulinus (birch sponge/bracket) is great for sculpting. You can carve it easily when freshly harvested, then it dries/sets rock hard, but you have to keep it dry (ie don't get it wet). My avatar is made out of birch bracket.

Will be really interested to see what you do.

Edit: This guy built a tea house out of shaped reishi bricks then boiled the bricks to make tea http://motherboard.vice.com/read/the-house-that-spores-built

You could actually build a mushroom shaped house out of mycelium.


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Re: cultivating mycelium for artistic purposes [Re: crowseed]
    #24019998 - 01/18/17 01:30 PM (7 years, 12 days ago)

Thanks everybody for the input! I got a lot more than I expected. I'm at work so I can't check out the links but I will when I get home.
Aneres I actually am hoping that the mycelium will take its own course and don't want to be fully in control of its shape. I think that starting out with something that evolves away from its original constraints will be fascinating to explore. Although you do have a good point about "the stinker" I will have to see how far I can take it before decomposition and stench become too overwhelming to handle.


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Re: cultivating mycelium for artistic purposes [Re: D.little91]
    #24020234 - 01/18/17 02:44 PM (7 years, 12 days ago)

Was at a fungal science show and I was amazed of the pictures of mycelium under a compound microscope obtained by a researcher. She used agar plates and used a glass rod to spread a very thin (almost 2-D), uniform layer of spores in LC across the entire plate. I only saw the very early stages of growth at high magnification but you could see interesting macroscopic mycelium patterns by spreading spores across flat growth media. Draw a picture with it!


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Re: cultivating mycelium for artistic purposes [Re: Cattlecruiser]
    #24020522 - 01/18/17 04:10 PM (7 years, 12 days ago)

If you look at Mad Seasons signature, that is exactly what some people do and it is really bad ass!


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