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Shroominmojo0213
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New Grow 39 Brf Jars!!
#24016654 - 01/17/17 07:17 AM (7 years, 13 days ago) |
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Hello Y'all! Question about prime time birthing and cobweb? 39 jars were inoculated on 1-2.Over 12 are pulling away from the sides of the jars and are fully colonized on the outside, another week for consolidation is in process. WONDERING is this to early to birth? Conditions were superior 24/7, light 12/12 fanned and plenty of air exchange everyday. They seem to like Starset as well!! Should the S.F.C be prepared at this time or too early? Also there is one jar that is suspect of cobweb and has been isolated because of the suspicion. Need help with a proper identification of this notorious invader. Thanks in advance. Posting pics along the way.
Suspected cobweb jar??
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Images of Colonization process! How do they look??
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cobweb jar isnt cobweb but it looks funky.
let them consolidate. do not birth cakes until 100% not a moment before. ever. build you sgfc now so we have time to help you with it.
be proactive not reactive!
other jars look like pf cakes 
39 is a strange amount to make. why not 40?
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Shroominmojo0213 said: Hello Y'all! Question about prime time birthing and cobweb? 39 jars were inoculated on 1-2.Over 12 are pulling away from the sides of the jars and are fully colonized on the outside, another week for consolidation is in process. WONDERING is this to early to birth? Conditions were superior 24/7, light 12/12 fanned and plenty of air exchange everyday. They seem to like Starset as well!! Should the S.F.C be prepared at this time or too early? Also there is one jar that is suspect of cobweb and has been isolated because of the suspicion. Need help with a proper identification of this notorious invader. Thanks in advance. Posting pics along the way.
Suspected cobweb jar?? 
Why would you fan your jars?
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Re: New Grow 39 Brf Jars!! [Re: 7munkee]
#24017133 - 01/17/17 11:28 AM (7 years, 13 days ago) |
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39 jars?!
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Shroominmojo0213 said: light 12/12 fanned and plenty of air exchange everyday.
This is done during fruiting, not during colonizing.
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Re: New Grow 39 Brf Jars!! [Re: Mr Piggy]
#24017171 - 01/17/17 11:45 AM (7 years, 13 days ago) |
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My first pf grow was 18 cakes - someone dropped by and told me "18 cakes is trying for serious fruit, have you considered bulk?"
Was the best advice I was ever given. I pulled off that first pf, and wasn't exactly stoked on yeild. I had trouble getting cakes to pin. Plus, I had built a PMP, so I was pissed about the funds wasted on that.
My first mono tub yeild was probably 4 times that of my first pf.
Maybe do a bit more reading on the pf teks, and have fun. Im about 4 months in, and absolutely loving the hobby. Now I just need to figure out what to do with all this mush!
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Geocache it 
Or give to friends
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I understand that fanning is done during the fruiting stage but I have them in an incubator because it is not even 70 in the room where they are kept. I guess it is an unnecessary step but I do have a lid on the container and it doesn't seem to cause a problem. I had the jars and all the necessary Substrate materials so I just decided to inoculate them all. I have a Shotgun f.c. And want to try another type of terrarium but I am unsure of what kind. I have done many jars in the distant past but Alot has changed and I really don't remember what I fruited them in or the process that I used. I do remember making my own syringes from a print I obtained from the free spore ring and using the pf tek. My last grow was a disaster and I used pre made jars from a vendor so decided to go big and try a couple different things.
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I thought I had 40 jars but couldn't find the last on so after I was all done and kickin it, I noticed the 40th jar sitting on my dresser behind a picture collecting monster tabs!
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With the SGFC, fanning is not needed. The holes on all the sides do all the work that fanning basically does.
U can give a quick fan after misting but its basically optional in my opinion.
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Do people do that with geocaches?
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Ah! Thank you chaos! I am not home all the time to fan them so this makes sense to me! Here is my chamber it is 20 1/2 long× 12 1/2 tall× 15 wide. It's fairly big! I only had a 5/16 bit so slightly larger (I understand it will be harder to keep more humid) about 300 holes space 2 in. Apart on all sides. I made a little nifty stand for it as well. It's about a foot off of the carpeted floor. How does it look? Should I change anything?
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Do what with geocaches? I'm lost there
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Oh leave the goofy looking jar in one? That'd be a shady find
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Follow the reply chain. Logical chaos suggested geocaching mush. I'm wondering if people actually do that. Doesn't sound like a good idea to me.
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Re: New Grow 39 Brf Jars!! [Re: Tiamo]
#24017806 - 01/17/17 04:03 PM (7 years, 13 days ago) |
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Tiamo said: Follow the reply chain. Logical chaos suggested geocaching mush. I'm wondering if people actually do that. Doesn't sound like a good idea to me.
no, but they should! Spread the shroomy love man! Make sure u label it thou
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Re: New Grow 39 Brf Jars!! [Re: mushboy]
#24017809 - 01/17/17 04:04 PM (7 years, 13 days ago) |
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mushboy said: do not birth cakes until 100% not a moment before. ever.
U can birth cakes before 100% but you have to remove any uncolonized substrate. Only practical when u got a little bacteria problem
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Re: New Grow 39 Brf Jars!! [Re: Munchauzen]
#24017833 - 01/17/17 04:13 PM (7 years, 13 days ago) |
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I Had a bacteria problem before and it was the only cake out of 12 that pinned and fruits, so I just kept cutting the bacteria out of it! The others were beyond died out I believe, plus I did not dunk them before birthing. I will be dunking them now!
How can I be sure that they are 100% colonized?
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i was talking more along the lines of it being like 60% and you are impatient. or you want to open and stick your finger inside.. youve seen what weirdos do.
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Re: New Grow 39 Brf Jars!! [Re: mushboy]
#24017857 - 01/17/17 04:27 PM (7 years, 13 days ago) |
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I'm far from impatient! I just want to be sure they are full colonized! 16 days is definitely not long enough and some are fully covered on the outside. Putting a finger in the jar. Far worse things have probably been done to some poor jars I imagine.
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Most of them are 100% as of today! Some are more like 85-90%, A couple at like 70% Colonized! Thinking I am going to need 2 sgfc. I will not be doing a bulk casing this time around. I decided to flip all jars for the next 6 days to finish and consolidate. Birth, Dunk for 24 hours and than birth into the chambers! How does my process look? I would love any suggestions and or recommendations at this time. They are greatly appreciated
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Shroominmojo0213 said: I'm far from impatient! I just want to be sure they are full colonized! 16 days is definitely not long enough and some are fully covered on the outside. Putting a finger in the jar. Far worse things have probably been done to some poor jars I imagine.
Why did you flip them?
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Re: New Grow 39 Brf Jars!! [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#24019741 - 01/18/17 11:40 AM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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No need to flip the jars. No point in messing around with any other type of terrarium, just get building another SGFC or two, or three. You're going to need the room if you're fruiting 39 cakes at once.
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No clue why OP flipped the cakes. Where do people get that? Do they say to do it on mycotopia? Im always so surprised with the weird shit ppl come up with.
The jars have holes in the lid and a dry filter on top. That alone should really tell you right side up.
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Re: New Grow 39 Brf Jars!! [Re: Munchauzen]
#24019821 - 01/18/17 12:18 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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i think maybe cause they want the bottom to colonize so pulling it off the glass helps it? 
Not sure, but you should not flip your jars.
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check out my sig tek
39 brf jars..... holy sh!t
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Re: New Grow 39 Brf Jars!! [Re: Munchauzen]
#24019845 - 01/18/17 12:32 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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Munchauzen said: No clue why OP flipped the cakes. Where do people get that? Do they say to do it on mycotopia? Im always so surprised with the weird shit ppl come up with.
The jars have holes in the lid and a dry filter on top. That alone should really tell you right side up.
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Re: New Grow 39 Brf Jars!! [Re: VYBEv2]
#24019850 - 01/18/17 12:34 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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Waste of time "beefing them up" the results look poorer than when I fruit each cake as is. Cakes should be fruited as cakes not smashed up and mashed together.
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Re: New Grow 39 Brf Jars!! [Re: VYBEv2]
#24019855 - 01/18/17 12:35 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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because you kno? things grow up, right? like towards the sky.
i can remember waaay long ago someone said on here to do it to help it colonize. and people shitting on him for messing up the dry layer.
old habits bro.
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Re: New Grow 39 Brf Jars!! [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#24019865 - 01/18/17 12:41 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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mrmazdarx9 said: Waste of time "beefing them up" the results look poorer than when I fruit each cake as is. Cakes should be fruited as cakes not smashed up and mashed together.
To each their own. 39 jars is a waste imo
WBS all the way
buy an all american
Why 39 jars??
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Re: New Grow 39 Brf Jars!! [Re: VYBEv2]
#24019870 - 01/18/17 12:43 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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mrmazdarx9 said: Waste of time "beefing them up" the results look poorer than when I fruit each cake as is. Cakes should be fruited as cakes not smashed up and mashed together.
To each their own. 39 jars is a waste imo
WBS all the way
buy an all american
Why 39 jars??
True dat
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Re: New Grow 39 Brf Jars!! [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#24019949 - 01/18/17 01:10 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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Only 6 days left till I birth them if I haven't gotten contams yet inside of the incubator than I doubt I will get any if they are upside down. It makes sense that it would push the co2 out of the bottom.also allows fresh air in, the very layer isn't going anywhere, I didn't do this years ago as I remember but I will see what happens. You have to have a contam.floating around inside of the Inc. In order to get a contam I would think. How is making 39 jars a waste? I had everything to make them and the room so I did it. I guess if you want Alot of product than you have to prepare for it correct? I see mixed things in these forums about flipping jars, at the end of the colonization cycle I don't think it matters. That's where I'm at. I read something from roadkill on here talking about it.
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You need to read what the TCs say mainly people flip jars that dont have a clue. Why would flipping them push out gases? The gas exchanges perfectly well right way up. Now they are sat on the lids covering the holes reducing the GE
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Re: New Grow 39 Brf Jars!! [Re: VYBEv2]
#24020158 - 01/18/17 02:20 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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mrmazdarx9 said: Waste of time "beefing them up" the results look poorer than when I fruit each cake as is. Cakes should be fruited as cakes not smashed up and mashed together.
To each their own. 39 jars is a waste imo
WBS all the way
buy an all american
Why 39 jars??
Im guessing OP is expecting half to get infected.
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You'll be fine with them upside down, shouldn't do a whole lot. They look like they are almost fully colonized so I wouldn't worry about about contams. With that being said you shouldn't even really move your brf jars around while they are colonizing. Just asking for a contam to slip in. Also most Tc advise away from incubators for new growers. It's easy for them to get too hot. I've had that problem.
The only reason people are saying that is a waste is because there are easier bulk methods. Doing grain and putting that to coir in a monotub is much more efficient than cakes. Not to mention less work because you don't have all that misting and fanning..
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Shroominmojo0213 said: You have to have a contam.floating around inside of the Inc. In order to get a contam I would think.
if the syringe is not clean, which many are not 100%, then all the jars become contaminated.
just sayin.
How is making 39 jars a waste?
Speaking of syringes not being clean, how did you inoculate all those jars? Ideally you would want to take some sort of slurry from a clean culture and inoculate BRF cakes. Spores are doable, but if you're going to commit to so many jars, why not make sure you're working with clean culture instead of rolling the dice 39 times and hope to roll above 10 every time.
Again, just my IMO.
I had everything to make them and the room so I did it. I guess if you want Alot of product than you have to prepare for it correct?
one word. Bulk. Why fiddle with cakes, if you have the resources, space and time that is.
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Re: New Grow 39 Brf Jars!! [Re: HamHead] 1
#24020190 - 01/18/17 02:33 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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Op has posted then deleted posts in a few 13/11 year old threads looking for incubation and light during colonisation info. So now I understand why he is doing the stuff hes doing. OP you need to use the search engine better change date to less than 3 years or something. Also click the trusted cultivator button too.
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Re: New Grow 39 Brf Jars!! [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#24020221 - 01/18/17 02:40 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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So OP is seeking out old info.
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You need to raise that SGFC off the table as well to allow FAE through the bottom holes. Put some jars or something similar under each corner.
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Could the brf jars be birthed right before full colonization and transferred to a bulk sub???
Feel like it would save so much room...
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Re: New Grow 39 Brf Jars!! [Re: VYBEv2]
#24021332 - 01/18/17 08:32 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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It's perfect?! I thought!
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Umm I feel you on the room but I would have to scramble for bulk items in the next few days, and not sure if I can but definately going to look into it because I have a lot of jars.
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Re: New Grow 39 Brf Jars!! [Re: Guess]
#24021353 - 01/18/17 08:39 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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Got ya! Thank you! It is winter and I am a roofer so I have time to mist and fan them and its like 2 outside and not my first grow. I cultivated years ago using horse dung and oyster shell casing mix. I just didn't really have access to it this time around. I am looking into a bulk method that would suit my needs though. Old info is still great info. The species hasn't evolved much in the last ten thousand years lol.
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Re: New Grow 39 Brf Jars!! [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#24021377 - 01/18/17 08:50 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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Yepp didn't notice the date, didn't matter though! I cultivated bulk in the past about 14 years ago and was very successful, but methods have changed and I found a lot of my old post from years ago and methods I used than that worked just trying something new. I got the resource for bulk just not at the time, I expect contamination but not much hopefully.
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Re: New Grow 39 Brf Jars!! [Re: HamHead]
#24021420 - 01/18/17 09:12 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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I used an old oven tek actually and six syringes. Alcohol between jars believe me it took awhile, after each jar was done it wen into a separate sterile container before the incubator. Too cold here not to use one and it's effective if Used correctly. I will be using a liquid culture in the future. If I don't mess up I will never know. So far I don't have any contamination so my methods are working to an extent. I want to make a large glove box but haven't yet. Plus than I know for sure that the inoculation is stellar and the process. Walter White started out in a rv right?
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Re: New Grow 39 Brf Jars!! [Re: amidogen]
#24021434 - 01/18/17 09:16 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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I have some things ordered to start agar transfers and work with bulk and liquid cultures. Thank you all for the info.
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Re: New Grow 39 Brf Jars!! [Re: amidogen]
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I didn't really like the idea of using it but I got lucky so far! I did order a good lighter lamp for the future and also plan on not using the tek in the future. I will be doing research on the best ways to noc as I will be using agar. Excellent source of outdated information, yes indeed it is. The whole time doing it I was saying to myself, I'm going to crap myself if I don't get any contams.its working though. I mean the method worked for sometime to some extent. So something better than a glove box is out there you say?
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Ya bro we dont use gloveboxes anymore. Look up SAB (still air box) and if you are rich look into laminar flow hoods.
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Damn, I must be old! Hmm! Thank you guys! I'm looking now Sat.
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Yes, it is. My bad. Nice stand!
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All good brother, I just failed to show a pic of the bottom! Now I need to make another.
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Perfect SGFC stand
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Thank you guys! I have another stand and Sgfc to build tomorrow! I have a few questions, Everything seems to be going fine but want to make sure in these pics that this is actual Rhizomorphic growth shooting upwards towards my light? I have a couple of jars like this and one is uncolonized and was actually inoculated with two different types of strain. I know only one will be dominant. Just want to get some input on this further growth. Thank you
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Looks rizo to me a bit bacterial but pf cakes are always bacterial not a problem
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Re: New Grow 39 Brf Jars!! [Re: mrmazdarx9]
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Do you see how it rises though Mazda? I'm wondering if some invitro pinning may occur in these spots. How do you tell that they are bacterial Bro?
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From the pics they look a little moist which would be a sign although colonising does cause condensation and pic 3 the myc looks a little custard like which would be a sign. Like I said its not a real problem ive never had a jar without any bacteria and get great flushes. I wouldnt be surprised about in vitro fruiting either I usually get a couple little pins on a few jars before they have finished. also well done on noticing my name is mazda everyone thinks its mazdar
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Re: New Grow 39 Brf Jars!! [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#24026537 - 01/20/17 07:03 PM (7 years, 10 days ago) |
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Mazda Rx series, tight ass rides and have been for over twenty years! Yeah I got the condo. From when I flipped em (heat rises) probably won't do it again. If I didn't have such a clean environment, I wouldn't have done it. But it didn't hurt really. It helped colonization a little but not all the way yet on my slow jar! I ran out of solution. I will keep ya posted on progress! I plan on dunking on the 24th and birth on the 25 if all goes well.
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Second setup on its way! Finished the chamber and stands and gotta finish the light stand tomorrow!
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Re: New Grow 39 Brf Jars!! [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#24030516 - 01/22/17 01:09 PM (7 years, 8 days ago) |
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Hey on birthing these cakes, can I dunk them in tap water or should I use the filtered shit I bought for 44¢ a gallon for my Keurig originally? Also leave them out of the fridge correct?
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Tap water fine 24 hour dunk and cubes dont go in the fridge
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Re: New Grow 39 Brf Jars!! [Re: Tiamo]
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Awesome! Thanks! Yeah I'm going to dunk a few tonight that I know are finished consolidation. So setting up my chamber so it will be ready this time tomorrow night!
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So I birthed 16 jars this morning and they are dunking now! I have a bunch to birth tomorrow! Now while inspections were being done this morning I noticed this growth on a couple of my babies! It looks a little yellowish, I suspect a mold of some type. Let me know what yall think. If this is so I think I know what to change
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Also had some cool invitro growth!
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All 39 dunked and rolled! Conditions are at a premium right now so hopefully they pin and flush well!
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Looks awesome, good luck
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Trust me when I say wait 2 days before misting and let the myc grab the verm. It just got a ton of water after being handled for the first time and exposed to open air. Give it a break for 48 hours. You'll get a much stronger and reinforced casing layer, and when you do finally mist, you'll have 3 major pinning triggers going solid and it'll take the reins from there. Don't forget fanning just means kind of a quick scoop and wave, and mist until slightly glistening.. when the mushroom odor stops increasing, you're good on misting. Another quick wave and close her up.
Good luck, and if you get tired of foil use upside down jar lids it's so much easier and rarely do they pin from the bottom.
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Re: New Grow 39 Brf Jars!! [Re: Adden]
#24040283 - 01/26/17 01:57 AM (7 years, 4 days ago) |
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excited to see what near 40cakes pushes out.
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Re: New Grow 39 Brf Jars!! [Re: mushboy]
#24040287 - 01/26/17 01:59 AM (7 years, 4 days ago) |
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6.75 ounces is my guess on this.
2 ounces. Wiped needles between jars.
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Re: New Grow 39 Brf Jars!! [Re: Adden]
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Wiping the needle with alcohol between jars I heard is bad! In this case it did not matter they would have already gotten contaminated. Shit I have been misting Quixote a bit already. I'm home Alot in January so how much should I be misting. ALSO when I fan it is forceful wave with the lids! Like I'm fanning Cleopatra! So that should be stopped as well yall say and recommend. Well thank you for all the information.
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Adden thanks for the info Bro,! So should I hold off on the misting for a couple of days now do you think?
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Shroominmojo0213 said: Wiping the needle with alcohol between jars I heard is bad! In this case it did not matter they would have already gotten contaminated. Shit I have been misting Quixote a bit already. I'm home Alot in January so how much should I be misting. ALSO when I fan it is forceful wave with the lids! Like I'm fanning Cleopatra! So that should be stopped as well yall say and recommend. Well thank you for all the information.
I wipe needle then flame between jars I leave a day before misting I dont notice any verm falling off but its up to you
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Hey I'm just starting and I have about 7 jars just barley put my spores in them the house gets to 60 at night but we have room that stays75 to 80. The thing about that room is there is constant light because plants are in veg state will that fuck up colonization. Or can you tell me where the best place is to put them
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Re: New Grow 39 Brf Jars!! [Re: mrmazdarx9]
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Taking notes to put to practice Mazda! I need to get one of those flame lamps on ebay! Who do you use for spores or who have you used in the past? I used the spore Depot and I was impressed that I only paid like 60 for ten syringes but not with the quality of the product! I want to eventually be making my own from a print but need a good source now! Also should I just get prints instead? I know it's another few sterile steps but shit is the outcome worth it? I guess I could just sprinkle more very on than let them sit right?
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Mushroomkingdom said: Hey I'm just starting and I have about 7 jars just barley put my spores in them the house gets to 60 at night but we have room that stays75 to 80. The thing about that room is there is constant light because plants are in veg state will that fuck up colonization. Or can you tell me where the best place is to put them
You shouldnt jack thread start a new one to answer your question no light is beneficial so its fine
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Mushroom Kingdom I had mine in a incubator because it is winter here and my room is furthest from the heat so that's a struggle to keep at 70-75! During incubation it is best to keep between 70-80 as I just did with 39 jars. I also kept a light on them for 12/12. This is good for the development of the Mycellium. So I would definitely put them in that room. IMO. Mazda you don't use light during colonization?
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Re: New Grow 39 Brf Jars!! [Re: Adden]
#24040648 - 01/26/17 08:19 AM (7 years, 4 days ago) |
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6.75 ounces is my guess on this.
2 ounces. Wiped needles between jars.
5 ounces first flush.
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Re: New Grow 39 Brf Jars!! [Re: azur]
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Shit, Lol That would be Awesome!
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Felt the need to add a lil privacy for them!
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These came today Daylight compact Flourescent 6500k,1600 lumens, 23 watt replaces 100 watt! EBay 4 pack 25$! Are they sufficient?
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For a four pack? You got ripped off.
You can get a pack of 26 watt 6500k for much, much less.
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Re: New Grow 39 Brf Jars!! [Re: Mr Piggy]
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You could use the standard house cfls are they grow lights? They are sufficient never the less
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Re: New Grow 39 Brf Jars!! [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#24041149 - 01/26/17 12:22 PM (7 years, 4 days ago) |
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Just high K rating that's all
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There good to go any way
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Re: New Grow 39 Brf Jars!! [Re: mrmazdarx9]
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mrmazdarx9 said: You could use the standard house cfls are they grow lights? They are sufficient never the less
Yes, I have built cabinets out of dressers, 6500k cfl lights, and axial fans. You can grow some high quality buds with cfls. I used to get eight packs of cfls for fifteen or less.
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Re: New Grow 39 Brf Jars!! [Re: Mr Piggy]
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Yep lol
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The privacy screen and the humidifer might mess with the way the SGFC works.
The SGFC is a passive fruiting chamber: it works thru passive airflow that moves around the room naturally. Airdrafts and all that.
Just be aware they might hinder performance...
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Yes humidifiers are no good you wanna mist and evaporate to trigger pinning. Humidifiers may cause problems as ive seen recently pretty mad aerial mycelium in one case
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So take the humidifiers out of the chamber is what your saying correct? Without the one in the room I cannot achieve 50% humidity
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I can move it across the room!
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Dont worry about shit like humidity you dont need to worry about that. Just mist your cakes when they look dry thats it. All electrical devices are useless because they dont measure the surface of the cake only the air around it. Learn how to spot with your eyes thats what every good grower will tell you. SGFCs shouldnt have any gauges or measurement devices. trust us humidifiers have no place with sgfcs IMO
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Re: New Grow 39 Brf Jars!! [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#24041584 - 01/26/17 03:06 PM (7 years, 4 days ago) |
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I removed them from the chamber! I appreciate the help people! I know it's humid in those baby's. The humidity outside of the room is still an issue correct me if I'm wrong? I put the big one across the room and it shuts off when the room humidity reaches 60%. The curtain does not stay otheir 24/7 just when I have peeping eyes. Which is hardly a ever. The gf knows. That's about it. So when I mist and fan Mazda how many times per day is a good goal? Also you were saying to wait 48 hours as well correct? I am here and home on vacation till Sunday so I do have time to attend to them. Let me know Brothers.
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Removed what from the chambers? Not the cakes? They stay in the sgfc. You should worry about how many times as people give you a number but it completely depends on the environment they are in. You need to look at the cakes if you cant see any moisture then mist fanning is optional as the sgfc is designed to allow air to pass through it can help trigger pinning but after that theres no need
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Re: New Grow 39 Brf Jars!! [Re: mrmazdarx9]
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Let the sgfc do the work. It might not have batteries but it's fully automated. Use the search engine and check out "basic principles of a shotgun fruiting chamber", and read it, and then read it again. You don't need anything more than yhat.
Birth/rinse. Dunk overnight. Rinse. Roll in verm. Set on upside down jar lids in sgfc. Wait 48h. Mist it when it looks dry. Fanning basically is like a "scoop" and a little wave after you've misted to get evaporation going. If your cakes look dry then mist. People always overdo it. They only need 3 to 5 times a day.
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Re: New Grow 39 Brf Jars!! [Re: Adden]
#24041724 - 01/26/17 04:00 PM (7 years, 4 days ago) |
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I removed the humidifiers I had in the chambers lol not the cakes! I don't messk with them. My room is super dry so the big humidifier sits across the room now and is automated to bring the humidity up in the room to 60%! I read somewhere, that the room rh needs to be at least 50%.I also have an oscillating fan on low in the opposite corner of the room. So I have airflow now. So is this good or do I need anything else. If I remove the humidifier than my room rh will drop dramatically
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I see no harm in having a humidifier in the same room. Does the room really have no airflow whatsoever? You don't want the fan disturbing the SGFC's passive air flow
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Re: New Grow 39 Brf Jars!! [Re: Dactylium]
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Yeah I removed the fan! I put it in my living room in the corner so it will circulate air throughout my small Apartment. Makes more sense! What is the best temperature to keep inside the chamber? Even the room that they are in?
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if you put a humidifier in an enclosed area it will make the paint peal off the walls and ceiling. just ask my last apartment.
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75F. If you go above or below this temperature your mushrooms will either implode or explode.
But really though anything below 75 they slow down a little and above they're more prone to bacterial issues. I've also heard they get a little thicker at lower temps.
Munch ain't kiddin'. If you don't have ventilation in the room you're using I'd ditch the humidifier.
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Re: New Grow 39 Brf Jars!! [Re: Munchauzen]
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The door is always open it is not that moist in there lol! It is not on all the time either just blowing into the air. It is set up so again so that the humidity in the room stays at 60%
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75 would be really hard to maintain it would be smoldering in my crib! I have one wall furnace in the living room and it blows like mad shit and is super hot when it goes so I have to monitor the Temps in the grow room Constantly
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Hey if you can't that's totally fine. The room I fruit in stays between 70 and 73. I'd start worrying in the 50s
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I think I will be alright! I am not going to mist again until tomorrow some time. Giving the water on and in the cakes some time to evaporate a little to trigger pinning. After examination of chamber 1 which I placed the cakes in yesterday morning I found that quite a few looked like this? Is this normal Mycellium reestablishing itself?
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Kinda. A little early to tell. They'll look like this when they go bacterial.

They kind of blob and ooze out and the myc gets puffy or oozey or spikey. It turns into a battle royale between the mycelium and the infection. It's the only time I recommend redunking/rerolling.
I would put those cakes on upside down jar lids, with the edge of the cake as close to the perlite as possible without touching. That way you're making use of every square centimeter. The evaporative properties you're applying to your roll (the cake's casing layer), benefit the cake by creating tiny pockets that are one of the biggest pinning triggers next to light. As air and water flow up against the cake (from your perlite and sgfc), the organism now knows it has a perfect environment to reproduce.. aka, make fruits.
I don't think your stuff is infected. Maybe. But nothing to worry about. I've seen mycelium do all kinds of weird shit right after a roll. It's probably enjoying its new environment now that it has air, plenty of water, and suitable fruiting conditions.
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Re: New Grow 39 Brf Jars!! [Re: Adden]
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Here's some more bacterial infections.


Notice, too, how overly wet they are.
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Re: New Grow 39 Brf Jars!! [Re: Adden]
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Adden your the bomb! So put them on the lids sideways you say huh? Like end to end? Not touching each other or the perlite? Get rid of the foil in other words. So turn all the cakes on the side or just these ones?
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Bacteria takes over pretty fast I would think as well. Guess I will know more tomorrow. I'm not misting them again till Friday morning.
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Just do a switcharoo with the foil and a jar lid. They really do truly help. Not only do they eliminate standing water (something that's never good in open air), they nearly remove bottom pinning.
You can just do it Saturday morning when you start misting and fanning again, and after that you shouldn't really touch them. You'll create another microclimate by grouping your cakes together. Just lift the cake and put it on the jar lid white side up, make sure no perlite gets on any of them, and let it ride. Hardest parts are over.
This is round 1 finishing fruiting and round 2 right after a dunk/roll and placement.
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Awesome I will do that! Those look really healthy. Sweet flush going on there!
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Three days into fruiting! Misted about 15 min ago so walls are still wet! It evaporates! Have some fruits but these were the invitro ones! Looks like some hyphal knots occurring? What do you guys think so far? Started misting this morning!
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Shroominmojo0213 said: Three days into fruiting! Misted about 15 min ago so walls are still wet! It evaporates! Have some fruits but these were the invitro ones! Looks like some hyphal knots occurring? What do you guys think so far? Started misting this morning! 
its doesnt matter if your walls are wet. its inconsequential. the walls aren't growing mushrooms, your cakes are. so make sure you are misting the cakes, not the walls.
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Re: New Grow 39 Brf Jars!! [Re: Munchauzen]
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It's impossible to not get over spray with this many cakes! It evaporates
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Wow. Good luck. From what I've read, bulk definitely would've been the way to go though
On that note and not to hijack the thread but what with the time that this site has been around and the speed in which amateur mycology is advancing, there definitely needs to be a place to see up to date information.
I've seen the Basic Grow Guide section talked about (a few years ago), though links lead to a dead end.
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Re: New Grow 39 Brf Jars!! [Re: DOMO]
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DOMO said: Wow. Good luck. From what I've read, bulk definitely would've been the way to go though
On that note and not to hijack the thread but what with the time that this site has been around and the speed in which amateur mycology is advancing, there definitely needs to be a place to see up to date information.
I've seen the Basic Grow Guide section talked about (a few years ago), though links lead to a dead end.
Can anyone link to up to date PF guides?
if your talking about going bulk with pf cakes then what youve read is wrong. Cakes are better as cakes. Upto date pf guides here
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Re: New Grow 39 Brf Jars!! [Re: mrmazdarx9]
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Reading through RRs notes and as I've read the number one trigger for pinning after placing in the chamber is evaporation off the cakes? So misting throughout the day 5-6 times seems like too much, so I wait until they look like they are drying out than I mist. Fae is done 4 times an hour with scoop fanning and than top to bottom fanning with thechamber lids3-4 times each type of fanning method. He says there can never be too much Fae. Am I doing this correctly? What should I change? Also in the notes he states to mist right away to let the very soak the water and such. When I placed in the chamber 3 days ago I began misting a half hour later. Misted till bed and than skipped the second day of misting because it was recommended than read the notes and began again yesterday morning. Hoping I'm not screwing this up. I JUST WANT A GOOD FAE AND MISTING SCHEDULE ESTABLISHED! Am I wrong
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Re: New Grow 39 Brf Jars!! [Re: mrmazdarx9]
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I think I've essentially equated 'bulk' to reference mono.
I have The Basics bookmarked, thanks.
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Shroominmojo0213 said: Reading through RRs notes and as I've read the number one trigger for pinning after placing in the chamber is evaporation off the cakes? So misting throughout the day 5-6 times seems like too much, so I wait until they look like they are drying out than I mist. Fae is done 4 times an hour with scoop fanning and than top to bottom fanning with thechamber lids3-4 times each type of fanning method. He says there can never be too much Fae. Am I doing this correctly? What should I change? Also in the notes he states to mist right away to let the very soak the water and such. When I placed in the chamber 3 days ago I began misting a half hour later. Misted till bed and than skipped the second day of misting because it was recommended than read the notes and began again yesterday morning. Hoping I'm not screwing this up. I JUST WANT A GOOD FAE AND MISTING SCHEDULE ESTABLISHED! Am I wrong
Yep mist only when needed, fanning is not FAE. The holes in the sgfc are your source for FAE, tbh fanning is optional as I said those 100s of hole take care of that.
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Re: New Grow 39 Brf Jars!! [Re: DOMO]
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DOMO said: I think I've essentially equated 'bulk' to reference mono.
I have The Basics bookmarked, thanks.
thats exactly what I am talking about and still cakes should be fruited as cakes not in a mono. You asked for the upto date pf guides I supplied them, you said your links are dead those aint.
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I read them Mazda! You should see this book I got it's good but shit how do you know or if it's any good or not? Essentially it comes down to research, research and put into practice the practices that have worked for trusted cultivator s!
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Sorry mate that wasnt aimed at you DOMO asked for links to recent pf teks. I gathered youve seen them as Im looking at your pf grow  Yes your right its all about staying current books go out of date and we argue alot on this forum with people who have read old books (not saying yours is an old book ive no idea) and dont realise theyre reading out of date stuff. TC's and this forum are the best info sources  nothing wrong with a bed time read though aslong as you check the facts are still correct.
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It's publishing date is 2016 and its pretty entertaining! I resort to here for my final decisions usually.
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http://www.mycolog.com/fifthtoc.html
First 5 chapters online are free.
The Fifth Kingdom by Bryce Kendrick. You'll learn a lot.
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Your cakes are waaay over-misted. Stop misting them. they need to dry out. Then mist them.
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Damn alright! I will let them dry out all night! Thanks logical!
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Only Misted once this morning about 8:30 kinda skeptical about misting again, still signs of water droplets on the sides from overspray hasn't evaporated in three hours yet! It is about 75 in one chamber and 74 in the other! 70 respectively. When should I mist again I have a few growing good but still trying to get that pinset going! Been Been a n there 4 days tonight! Check out the pics and let me know, and if you see any visual problem guys. Thanks so much
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not too much going on there.
Its best to mist *only* when your cakes look *dry*. Dont mist if they look moist!
Maybe the other cakes need more time....hopefuly.
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Brother honestly I had the same problem with the first batch of twelve I started back in November! Only a few fruits! I know my set up is killer and conditions are correct! I didn't get contact or haven't yet. I'm sure I will. I am really belive g that it's the spore vendor I used. The Spore Depot. I got ten for around fifty bucks, they looked very clear and a couple spore globs in them. I was like shit can't pass up the deal. I will be ordering from the hawks eye this week and also make more jars. Should I really be using tall half pints? I have like 40 of them or just search for the small wide mouth ones? I also have plastic petri dishes still sealed. Agar maybe? I don't use a pressure cooker but I know my shit was sterile cuz I still have left over jars I made with zero contact in them and one had a screw top lol.
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Still no pinning that I can see, has to be the strain, shit I'm not sure!
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