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DMT for demonic possession
    #24016417 - 01/17/17 01:20 AM (7 years, 14 days ago)

Long story short, I got myself heavily possessed by demons. The worst kind, pure evil. The energy is the polar opposite of compassion. Their intent is to torture, enslave, drag souls to hell, stop souls from awakening. Worse still, I have reason to suspect I may be hellbound.

Things in my life have got ugly and deteriorated since this started. So its the worst of the worst possible scenario anyone could find themselves in. My two worst fears since I was a kid were demonic possession and hell.

On ayahuasca I went through exorcism like experiences in all 4 ceremonies I did a few months ago. They didn't end well. Felt like I felt them unfinished, I felt like I was supposed to keep shaking and doing crazy shit, but shaman and the guides kept getting me to sit down and calm down.

Ordinarily I would be terrified, but I lost the ability to feel fear. I got some DMT and am thinking of just going for it. I have no idea what might happen. My hopes is ego death, so there will be nothing to possess anymore. Or transcending duality through the unification of good and evil. I've seen through the illusion of separation after a salvia trip, happened 3 times. I've experienced universal love and compassion more intense than anything imagineable. An experienced darkness more evil and dark than anything imagineable.

What would be your perspective on this? How would DMT effect someone whos heavily possessed? If I do it, its gonna be a huge dose, I'm breaking through into I don't know where. I've never done DMT before, but I have to resolve this issue of theres no point living. My hearts been blocked, so I feel like a shell of what I was, I can't live with no heart. I feel like the situation is so extreme, that theres no way out. But maybe theres a way in.

I have no idea what might happen, but I feel like just going for it. Usually my psychic intuition gives me big warning signs if I'm about to make a huge mistake. Unfortunately I've never once listened to them, and thats precisely how I got into this mess. But it is what it is, and que sera sera. Do any of you have any experience with possession, and if so, have you tried DMT while in that predicament?


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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: entheologist]
    #24016423 - 01/17/17 01:30 AM (7 years, 14 days ago)

i feel like you are expecting a way out of life.
you should refrain from drugs and acknowledge these bad points of life and take them on.


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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: TheHunt]
    #24016445 - 01/17/17 01:58 AM (7 years, 14 days ago)

You aren't possessed. Stop doing drugs it's making you crazy


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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: my3rdeye] * 1
    #24016474 - 01/17/17 02:47 AM (7 years, 13 days ago)

Sounds like your mentally ill.

Your two worst fears are demonic possession and hell.

Your thoughts are reflecting out to you in the real world.

Look into synchronicity.
Your not well man.


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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: MinnesnowtaNice]
    #24016585 - 01/17/17 05:46 AM (7 years, 13 days ago)

I believe the reason you found yourself in this position is precisely because it was your worst fear and life has  a way of forcing you to confront your worst fears.

If anything, I would recommend San Pedro for demonic possession. It has a heart opening effect. You could also try an exorcist.


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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: Peyote Road]
    #24016601 - 01/17/17 06:26 AM (7 years, 13 days ago)

there are no such things as demons. you aren't possessed. your just being silly.


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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: SpaceDawg]
    #24016645 - 01/17/17 07:10 AM (7 years, 13 days ago)

Demons nah you're possessed by existential entities more than likely.

Kidding... Why would you be possessed by demons, are they making you do demonic shit?


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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: impaired420]
    #24016827 - 01/17/17 09:10 AM (7 years, 13 days ago)

You've gone too far down the rabbit hole.

Lay off the drugs for a while. :smile:


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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: Trypto-Fan]
    #24016868 - 01/17/17 09:31 AM (7 years, 13 days ago)

:wonka:


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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: my3rdeye]
    #24017097 - 01/17/17 11:14 AM (7 years, 13 days ago)

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You aren't possessed. Stop doing drugs it's making you crazy




No, this stuff is real. I was emotionally numb for years, now I'm really numb. I don't hallucinate, no psychosis, no delusions, none of that. I was at an ayahuasca ceremony with a shaman 6 months ago, and when the aya kicked in, I saw a towering dark shadow behind me, its message was that it wanted to drag me down in front of others to destroy their hope and put fear into them, because for the year leading up to it I transformed my life, I quit all drugs, got into a healthy lifestyle, eating healthy, exercising, meditating and I was flowing with love and compassion after a heart awakening. I started going numb again gradually for some reason, and went to that ayahuasca ceremony.

The shaman saw I was struggling and she came up to me and asked "what are you feeling?", and I told her "I'm feeling the fear". She said "this isn't the way to deal with the fear" and brought me into the other room. It felt like walking into a trap, the look on her face, her expressions, it wasn't compassion or confidence, I can't pinpoint exactly what it was. She said "some people who come to my ceremonies are full of demons, and you're one of them". I didn't believe her or take it seriously, I didn't really believe in demons at that time because I had been through so much of the good stuff, I was more about unity consciousness and compassion. She said she'd remove them from me, it didn't feel right, but I went along with it anyway. I sat on the chair. The moment she started doing her thing, it started. I started shaking at superhuman speeds, growling, roaring at the top of my lungs, taking on demonic facial expressions. It didn't feel out of my control at all, and I wasn't scared (I wasn't feeling anything really) and I was telling the shaman "its okay, don't worry" because I felt like it was okay, I just needed to get something out.

She kept saying "stop, thats not necessary", and then said "thats the demons telling you to stop, they're resisting". It was like something from a horror movie, you would never believe this exists until you see it, I was shaking at superhuman speeds (I saw the shaman do a very mild version of this during the ceremony too oddly enough). She was "hocking" and spitting in a bucket, and that was supposedly her removing demons from me. I felt like it overwhelmed her. She bailed out on me. The African fella, her assistant was completely calm and relaxed about it, he just said "you need to be strong" while patting his heart. Like he didn't share her beliefs about it. She said she removed them from me, but it felt like nothing was resolved, it felt the other way around.

I did 3 more ceremonies, this time without a shaman, with a group who were more about compassion and healing trauma and all that. The same thing happened at the first ceremony, maybe more intense. It terrified the other 40 people at the ceremony. The guides were telling me to "just breathe", and eventually I got through it, but I felt a message that this dark towering shadow, it was letting me put on a show to give hope to people, only to take it away in the next two ceremonies. When I got through it, I burst into tears and cried for hours. I wasn't feeling anything while crying though. The next two ceremonies, it happened again and I didn't get through it. After that night terrors started. Then it all calmed down, but since then I have been COMPLETELY numb, I can't even feel fear. No sex drive, lost all motivation and interest in anything. People with PTSD experience things like this, but this wasn't really a traumatic event, if anything the first 2 ceremonies woulda been the traumatic ones, but its the last ceremony that did the damage. The one where I drank a half dose.

A few years ago I was physically pinned down to a chair by something invisible. This stuff is real whether you believe it or not. I'm not looking for a way out of life, I'm looking to heal from this affliction. Its causing my family serious pain and sadness, I need to get well. I've been to a psychologist, but you can't talk your way through this. Seeing a psychiatrist didn't help, as expected. I have no symptoms most of the time, but it can happen at any time, it happens at the worst times. I visited a Buddhist monastery, and out of the blue it started happening,  I was going way more numb than usual, getting pins and needs and cramping up and contorting which is what happened on ayahuasca.

Things have got worse since then, some really sad things have happened, directly caused by this. Or more accurately, I caused them to happen by not fighting it off hard enough.

I'm not looking for a way out of life, I'm looking for a way in. I have something to live for greater than anything imagineable, but this thing is trying to tear it all down. I'm blessed, but this situation has turned me into a shell of what I was, my heart is completely blocked, I can't feel compassion anymore, thats the most disturbing part of it. I've never had a blocked heart like this in my life. I need a way to fix this.


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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: SpaceDawg]
    #24017137 - 01/17/17 11:29 AM (7 years, 13 days ago)

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there are no such things as demons. you aren't possessed. your just being silly.




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Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.


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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: SpaceDawg]
    #24017172 - 01/17/17 11:46 AM (7 years, 13 days ago)

I remember you.  Do you remember pming me under a different account? You are Mantis, it must be.

Consider stopping all drugs for a long period of time and get well man.  Stop asking the shroomery about this nonsense and seek professional help.  This is beyond psychedelics, they are not for everyone - for reasons that should be obvious.  You should seek professional help and counseling like cognitive behavioral therapy or go talk to a catholic priest - maybe he'll buy your story and give you another story to get yourself out of your current one.
What kind of buddhist monastery did you go to? What school and tradition and lineage? How long did you stay?  Who was the Abbot, or Master there?  What did they say to you - if you brought anything up at all besides being vague or cryptic - or speaking from another religious paradigm - and you did not stay to receive instructions on how to practice you may have just wasted your time, in fact I can say with decent probability you didnt stay long enough for instructions because they take months alone and long enough to use them (months, years, decades to master), because your butt would be sitting down looking this thing in the eye for hours a day till you no longer worried your pretty little head off and simply relax into just this.  It took months for me to receive a single Dokusan with a Roshi during my stay... the basic precepts of  shakyamuni buddha are the starting point... learning the terms and translation is tough enough.

Ps.  You are quick to claim these things you see and hear and fear are totally real and somehow completely outside of your control.  You forget you ingested extremely potent hallucinogenic plants with someone you did not know in a ceremony foreign to your own ways and upcomings - mind manifesting - psychedelic - Aya can bring about great terror and fear - and the apparitional like things it is guised under are not real - but projections and interpretations based on our chronic habits of past conditioning - but that is why psychedelics are special because they can show us things that are real in an unreal way - hence the demon - there is no demon - there is no demon I swear it, your deluded by your trips if you really believe in that 100% as in something outside of yourself.  The drug trip is like a dream - showing is what is not real, that is where you missed off on. 
Sure the feel the fear and numbness you speak of here in your life but you can do something about it... without resorting to drugs or fleeing or asking online.  Seek family help, good friends help who dont abuse drugs, seek professional help.  Please man.  You keep doing the same thing and its like watching a dog trying to catch its own tail.  I get you see evil in the world and in people - but do you see past that as well , like its just a translucent layer upon the real deal of our nature - a primordially pure one in all beings.

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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: Peyote Road]
    #24017306 - 01/17/17 12:52 PM (7 years, 13 days ago)

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I believe the reason you found yourself in this position is precisely because it was your worst fear and life has  a way of forcing you to confront your worst fears.

If anything, I would recommend San Pedro for demonic possession. It has a heart opening effect. You could also try an exorcist.




Heart opening effect is exactly what I need. My heart got blocked completely. Before the ayahuasca, I decided I wanted to face everything that stands between me and complete spiritual awakening. I knew I had something dark in me, but I wasn't ready for this.

Demons are real, whatever your perspective of them is. When you reject a part of yourself heavily enough, a dichotomy occurs, you force that part of yourself into the subconscious mind and since consciousness is consciousness, the split off part of yourself has a kind of intelligence of its own. People with the worst cases of possession tend to be the ones who have gone through extreme trauma and have repressed that trauma. Its all perspective, everything in life is subjective. Having a split off part of your psyche acting as an autonomous entity which is working against you, I don't know of a psychological term for that, dichotomy maybe, but it fits the description of a demon pretty well. Native Americans might call it soul loss. Its scary because it has intention of its own and its intelligent and strategic, it works against you and tries to take more of your conscious mind, and when that happens you become less self aware and the darkness grows.

What happens if that dichotomy grows bigger than your conscious mind? Thats what I'd call possession, its got a hold. What happens if it consumes you to the point that it encapsulates you? Thats what I'd call hell. People with severe schizophrenia, often this is whats causing it. This fits the Buddhist belief of hell too, total separation. The more whole we are, the more connected to others we are. When we lose parts of ourself to the unconscious mind, we become more disconnected. It all comes down to fear and love, rejection and acceptance. When fear arises, and we choose to run from it, and want to suppress our awareness of that part of ourselves causing the fear, sadness, painful emotions whatever, if we repress it, then we banish it to the subconscious mind. But it doesn't go anywhere. Its with you whether you're aware of it or not. People with heavy trauma who have repressed their memory of it have it bad, and what gives these "entities" their power, is how intensely we resist them coming back into our conscious awareness.

I've gained a great deal of wisdom and understanding through this experience, I could write a whole book on the matter. Its a sad thing that in this world, the world powers are pretty much all possessed. Donald Trump, is he "evil", or is he just blind and unconscious? Are these things the same? Luckily for me, this possession doesn't affect my conscience in any way, I don't feel my conscience like I could before, but its still there to guide me, and I'm too aware, I could never let this unconsciousness turn me into a bad person. "Bad" people tend to be the ones who are heavily unconscious, much of their conscious awareness has split off and been banished to the subconscious. They don't go anywhere, they're just outside the range of our conscious awareness. They operate in the background influencing us. Take anger for example. When we have our anger, and we're aware of it, and its a part of us, then its our choice what we do with it. But if we repress it, then it operates in the background and influences us without our awareness. Since anger is its energy, its not gonna influence us in positive ways. And since we've split off from it, it can be directed at us. Or others. This is what demons are.

Theres way more to it than this. Whatever we think constantly on a regular basis, it creates "thought forms". Like imprints on our psyche. When we're conscious of it, we'll notice that we get into the habit of thinking like that. But if the thoughts are something we reject, then they go into the subconscious.

Trauma based mind control is basically all about this. Through causing extreme trauma to a person, that person, as a defense mechanism, shuts out their awareness of the part of themselves being traumatised, so it splits off and becomes an autonomous entity. This is what split personality is. Alter egos that come out when people are drunk. Dr Jeckyl and Mr Hyde type stuff. I've never experienced anything take me over, but I don't think that means its less of a problem. This one seems to operate in the background, and its strategic and intelligent. It basically opposes all I value, kindness, altruism, compassion, awareness, equality, justice. Its the polar opposite of all that. So I seem to have a really bad one.

As for whether these things are inside us or outside us. If you wanna be scientific about it, everything we perceive as the external world is actually our brains interpretation of electrical signals tranduced by the sensory organs. Therefore as 1+1=2, the universe is within. This possession thing, it affects most of humanity, they're just unaware of it. When you reclaim lost parts of yourself you become more aware, more creative, more intuitive, more compassionate, more understanding, more connected, more intelligent, happier, more at peace, more energy, you're more interested in things, we feel more. It affects every aspect of us. When this thing took hold strongly, I couldn't think, I couldn't feel anything, I couldn't focus. My sex drive is gone, heart blocked, energy levels really low, emotions gone, awareness is inhibited. Whats disturbing about this one, is it remains dormant, it doesn't want me to know its there. With other people, these things will actively wreak havoc on them. It may depend on the nature of whats been suppressed. If its extreme anger, then the person might feel themselves hating themselves.

Not so aware people view all this through a limited scientific paradigm, but when your eyes are a little more open, you see the interconnectivity of everything. Everything is energy. The material world is a projection of the mind. I explained that from the scientific perspective above, but heres another way to look at it. When you're in a dream, it seems like you're "in" a world external to you, up until you become lucid (remember you're dreaming), then you suddenly realise this "external" world is actually you. So you could also say that world is in you. Well its the same thing with the waking world. Look into hypnosis induced positive and negative hallucinations to get an understanding of this. The majority of humanity are hypnotised into a limited paradigm. Go to the Amazon jungle, where the tribes aren't exposed to Western media and influence. They live in a different reality to us. They communicate with spirits, with plants, and they actually perceive things we don't. For example cats claw, the natives can tell which plants contain the medicinal compounds and which don't. Their explanation is that the plants contain both bad spirits and good spirits. The plants with more good spirits are the healing plants. Western science didn't find a way to differentiate these plants until HPLC was invented. They discovered that the plants contain two classes of compounds. Tetracyclicoxindole compounds and pentacyclicoxindole compounds. One of these alkaloid classes inhibits the effects of the other, so its the plants with mostly tetracyclic oxindole alkaloids that have the anti cancer and anti inflammatory properties. The natives could tell this well before Western science could, but they approach it through a paradigm in compatible with the Western paradigm.

Its sad that humanity is so unconscious. Its time we wake the fuck up and realise whats happening. What we can perceive is a small fraction of what actually exists, and our range of perception depends on how whole we are. Possessed people tend to be less self aware, so its these subconscious entities running the show. But this is basically the case with 95% of humanity. The subconscious mind controls us. Illumination is when we bring bring our darkness into the light, dissolve these inner dichotomies and unify our conscious and subconscious mind.

I can write about this now because I'm feeling okay, but when it comes on, I can't get the words out. And look at the majority of people. They wouldn't have the awareness of this stuff, let alone the words to describe them. All I can say, is this is real, and our choices determine whether we hand our power over to the darkness, or whether we reclaim it into the light.

This is a psychedelics forum, so I would expect it to have a large number of spiritually aware, open eyed, awake people, but its not quite the case. On DMT nexus, I could talk about this in a much more open way. Theres a reason behind that. DMT wakes you up. It humbles you and reminds you that theres very little we know about this world and this reality thing. Its really sad because I have the words and awareness to describe these things clearly, but many people do not, and they get put down by closed eyed, closed minded people. Psychiatrists have no real understanding of what schizophrenia is, and they're the ones most people afflicted with this issue go to for help. Its really sad. Humanity is held down by heavy unconsciousness.

People don't stop to wonder "why am I suffering, why are people around me suffering, does it have to be this way, can it be another way?". Why has technology not set us free from the need to work mundane jobs that machines can do, why do people view machines taking over jobs as a bad thing? Looking at it from a higher perspective, if the machine does a job that a person would ordinarily have to do, thats one more person freed to do other work, therefore the net result is more gets produced with the same amount of work. I rarely say this because I don't get greeted with closed mindedness often when I talk about this (simply because I don't talk about it to closed minded people). The alarm clock is ringing, time to wake the fuck up. Its not easy, but living unconsciously is a whole lot scarier.


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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: entheologist]
    #24017789 - 01/17/17 03:58 PM (7 years, 13 days ago)









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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: openmind]
    #24017807 - 01/17/17 04:04 PM (7 years, 13 days ago)

Have you tried crystals or snake oil? I was possessed by demons once, I tried writing long paragraphs on the shroomery arguing that basic facts and logic don't exist, watching youtube video upon youtube video on flat earth theories, and smoking crystal meth, but none of it worked, it was all in vein. It was only when I rubbed snake oil on my nipples and sung three hail marries that it went away. I now wear a magic gemstone of protection and have not been entered by the demon spawn since.


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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: krypto2000]
    #24017863 - 01/17/17 04:29 PM (7 years, 13 days ago)

:excuseme:


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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: entheologist]
    #24017871 - 01/17/17 04:32 PM (7 years, 13 days ago)

If you believe you're possessed by demons, you're giving those things power to work in your life (mind), those things cannot harm you unless YOU allow them too, fear not.


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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: openmind]
    #24018070 - 01/17/17 06:17 PM (7 years, 13 days ago)

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-OM


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Sounds like hes speaking some like African tribal language. interesting stuff.


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I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.


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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: SpaceDawg]
    #24019150 - 01/18/17 05:10 AM (7 years, 12 days ago)

Maybe ---- you are reacting to a deeper understanding.

I don't know who you ate Ayahuasca with.  There is a Daime Church in Oregon that believes that Ayahuasca is the Blood of Christ. There's another  group in New Mexico (UDV) that believes that Ayahuasca is a Deity. That is similar to the belief in the Native American Church that Peyote is a Deity. The Hindus believe that Marijuana came from the God Soma and was a part of Soma (which was a Plant).


Christ said, "A person ought to examine themselves before they eat of the bread and drink of the cup. For anyone who eats and drinks without recognizing the body of the Lord eats and drinks their own condemnation. That is why many among you are weak and sick, and a number of you have fallen asleep."
-- 1Corinthians, 11, 28 (St. Paul)

So possibly you were sensitive to that you were not recognizing that the Ayahuasca is the Deity, and felt condemned.

Thus, that is the demon that possessed you.


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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: entheologist]
    #24019161 - 01/18/17 05:29 AM (7 years, 12 days ago)

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I believe the reason you found yourself in this position is precisely because it was your worst fear and life has  a way of forcing you to confront your worst fears.

If anything, I would recommend San Pedro for demonic possession. It has a heart opening effect. You could also try an exorcist.




Heart opening effect is exactly what I need. My heart got blocked completely. Before the ayahuasca, I decided I wanted to face everything that stands between me and complete spiritual awakening. I knew I had something dark in me, but I wasn't ready for this.

Demons are real, whatever your perspective of them is. When you reject a part of yourself heavily enough, a dichotomy occurs, you force that part of yourself into the subconscious mind and since consciousness is consciousness, the split off part of yourself has a kind of intelligence of its own. People with the worst cases of possession tend to be the ones who have gone through extreme trauma and have repressed that trauma. Its all perspective, everything in life is subjective. Having a split off part of your psyche acting as an autonomous entity which is working against you, I don't know of a psychological term for that, dichotomy maybe, but it fits the description of a demon pretty well. Native Americans might call it soul loss. Its scary because it has intention of its own and its intelligent and strategic, it works against you and tries to take more of your conscious mind, and when that happens you become less self aware and the darkness grows.

What happens if that dichotomy grows bigger than your conscious mind? Thats what I'd call possession, its got a hold. What happens if it consumes you to the point that it encapsulates you? Thats what I'd call hell. People with severe schizophrenia, often this is whats causing it. This fits the Buddhist belief of hell too, total separation. The more whole we are, the more connected to others we are. When we lose parts of ourself to the unconscious mind, we become more disconnected. It all comes down to fear and love, rejection and acceptance. When fear arises, and we choose to run from it, and want to suppress our awareness of that part of ourselves causing the fear, sadness, painful emotions whatever, if we repress it, then we banish it to the subconscious mind. But it doesn't go anywhere. Its with you whether you're aware of it or not. People with heavy trauma who have repressed their memory of it have it bad, and what gives these "entities" their power, is how intensely we resist them coming back into our conscious awareness.

I've gained a great deal of wisdom and understanding through this experience, I could write a whole book on the matter. Its a sad thing that in this world, the world powers are pretty much all possessed. Donald Trump, is he "evil", or is he just blind and unconscious? Are these things the same? Luckily for me, this possession doesn't affect my conscience in any way, I don't feel my conscience like I could before, but its still there to guide me, and I'm too aware, I could never let this unconsciousness turn me into a bad person. "Bad" people tend to be the ones who are heavily unconscious, much of their conscious awareness has split off and been banished to the subconscious. They don't go anywhere, they're just outside the range of our conscious awareness. They operate in the background influencing us. Take anger for example. When we have our anger, and we're aware of it, and its a part of us, then its our choice what we do with it. But if we repress it, then it operates in the background and influences us without our awareness. Since anger is its energy, its not gonna influence us in positive ways. And since we've split off from it, it can be directed at us. Or others. This is what demons are.

Theres way more to it than this. Whatever we think constantly on a regular basis, it creates "thought forms". Like imprints on our psyche. When we're conscious of it, we'll notice that we get into the habit of thinking like that. But if the thoughts are something we reject, then they go into the subconscious.

Trauma based mind control is basically all about this. Through causing extreme trauma to a person, that person, as a defense mechanism, shuts out their awareness of the part of themselves being traumatised, so it splits off and becomes an autonomous entity. This is what split personality is. Alter egos that come out when people are drunk. Dr Jeckyl and Mr Hyde type stuff. I've never experienced anything take me over, but I don't think that means its less of a problem. This one seems to operate in the background, and its strategic and intelligent. It basically opposes all I value, kindness, altruism, compassion, awareness, equality, justice. Its the polar opposite of all that. So I seem to have a really bad one.

As for whether these things are inside us or outside us. If you wanna be scientific about it, everything we perceive as the external world is actually our brains interpretation of electrical signals tranduced by the sensory organs. Therefore as 1+1=2, the universe is within. This possession thing, it affects most of humanity, they're just unaware of it. When you reclaim lost parts of yourself you become more aware, more creative, more intuitive, more compassionate, more understanding, more connected, more intelligent, happier, more at peace, more energy, you're more interested in things, we feel more. It affects every aspect of us. When this thing took hold strongly, I couldn't think, I couldn't feel anything, I couldn't focus. My sex drive is gone, heart blocked, energy levels really low, emotions gone, awareness is inhibited. Whats disturbing about this one, is it remains dormant, it doesn't want me to know its there. With other people, these things will actively wreak havoc on them. It may depend on the nature of whats been suppressed. If its extreme anger, then the person might feel themselves hating themselves.

Not so aware people view all this through a limited scientific paradigm, but when your eyes are a little more open, you see the interconnectivity of everything. Everything is energy. The material world is a projection of the mind. I explained that from the scientific perspective above, but heres another way to look at it. When you're in a dream, it seems like you're "in" a world external to you, up until you become lucid (remember you're dreaming), then you suddenly realise this "external" world is actually you. So you could also say that world is in you. Well its the same thing with the waking world. Look into hypnosis induced positive and negative hallucinations to get an understanding of this. The majority of humanity are hypnotised into a limited paradigm. Go to the Amazon jungle, where the tribes aren't exposed to Western media and influence. They live in a different reality to us. They communicate with spirits, with plants, and they actually perceive things we don't. For example cats claw, the natives can tell which plants contain the medicinal compounds and which don't. Their explanation is that the plants contain both bad spirits and good spirits. The plants with more good spirits are the healing plants. Western science didn't find a way to differentiate these plants until HPLC was invented. They discovered that the plants contain two classes of compounds. Tetracyclicoxindole compounds and pentacyclicoxindole compounds. One of these alkaloid classes inhibits the effects of the other, so its the plants with mostly tetracyclic oxindole alkaloids that have the anti cancer and anti inflammatory properties. The natives could tell this well before Western science could, but they approach it through a paradigm in compatible with the Western paradigm.

Its sad that humanity is so unconscious. Its time we wake the fuck up and realise whats happening. What we can perceive is a small fraction of what actually exists, and our range of perception depends on how whole we are. Possessed people tend to be less self aware, so its these subconscious entities running the show. But this is basically the case with 95% of humanity. The subconscious mind controls us. Illumination is when we bring bring our darkness into the light, dissolve these inner dichotomies and unify our conscious and subconscious mind.

I can write about this now because I'm feeling okay, but when it comes on, I can't get the words out. And look at the majority of people. They wouldn't have the awareness of this stuff, let alone the words to describe them. All I can say, is this is real, and our choices determine whether we hand our power over to the darkness, or whether we reclaim it into the light.

This is a psychedelics forum, so I would expect it to have a large number of spiritually aware, open eyed, awake people, but its not quite the case. On DMT nexus, I could talk about this in a much more open way. Theres a reason behind that. DMT wakes you up. It humbles you and reminds you that theres very little we know about this world and this reality thing. Its really sad because I have the words and awareness to describe these things clearly, but many people do not, and they get put down by closed eyed, closed minded people. Psychiatrists have no real understanding of what schizophrenia is, and they're the ones most people afflicted with this issue go to for help. Its really sad. Humanity is held down by heavy unconsciousness.

People don't stop to wonder "why am I suffering, why are people around me suffering, does it have to be this way, can it be another way?". Why has technology not set us free from the need to work mundane jobs that machines can do, why do people view machines taking over jobs as a bad thing? Looking at it from a higher perspective, if the machine does a job that a person would ordinarily have to do, thats one more person freed to do other work, therefore the net result is more gets produced with the same amount of work. I rarely say this because I don't get greeted with closed mindedness often when I talk about this (simply because I don't talk about it to closed minded people). The alarm clock is ringing, time to wake the fuck up. Its not easy, but living unconsciously is a whole lot scarier.



This is not the post of someone who's heart is closed.


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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: pineninja]
    #24023029 - 01/19/17 02:05 PM (7 years, 11 days ago)

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This is not the post of someone who's heart is closed.




I appreciate you saying that, but are you sure this isn't just the post of a closed hearted person who remembers all too well the awareness that comes with having ones heart open? I experienced unity consciousness. I know we're all the one consciousness, one spirit, one river. How could I ever have negative intentions towards anyone knowing this? If I was born this way on the other hand, I could easily be a bad person. After the aya ceremony, I instantly noticed it. I suddenly had a dead feeling in my chest. Its the most disturbing thing thats happened me, going through a full blown exorcism was somewhat disturbing, but losing my heart energy, thats the scariest part. Feels like I've descended to a lower being. Like a shell of my former self.


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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: entheologist]
    #24023805 - 01/19/17 06:57 PM (7 years, 11 days ago)

Im sure of nothing.
I've seen the stream I've been the moment and I too know that you and I are one.
Reconciling these comparitively outrageous views and experiences with the self in relation to everyday life is always going to be tough...
I too went through a tough period...the perspective you've been dealt will either consume or enrich you. After reading your perspectives I think that with time you will be better, more whole and more loving than you ever were.


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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: pineninja]
    #24024562 - 01/20/17 12:18 AM (7 years, 11 days ago)

Demons or spirits cannot hurt you pal.

My close friend has seen demons on DMT, in my bedroom as a matter of fact. I've interacted with poltergeists, and I've been haunted by orbs during puberty. None of these will actually harm you.

You are the one in control of your thoughts, and your life. You have nothing to fear from DMT or demons/spirits.

You should also seek actual therapy from a professional. Don't blame demons for your erratic and paranoid thoughts. These are mental health issues that need to be addressed.

If a bunch of spiritual/open minded people are telling you to seek help, you should definitely listen to them.


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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: entheologist] * 1
    #24024623 - 01/20/17 01:28 AM (7 years, 11 days ago)


"This one seems to operate in the background, and its strategic and intelligent. It basically opposes all I value, kindness, altruism, compassion, awareness, equality, justice. Its the polar opposite of all that. So I seem to have a really bad one. "


This sound's to me like you have not been possessed by anything other than your own shadow the complete opposite of you."The moment she started doing her thing, it started. I started shaking at superhuman speeds, growling, roaring at the top of my lungs, taking on demonic facial expressions. It didn't feel out of my control at all, and I wasn't scared (I wasn't feeling anything really) and I was telling the shaman "its okay, don't worry" because I felt like it was okay, I just needed to get something out." again it was not out of your control because it was you.  I've some experienced a similar thing, it's my shadow self. I have recognized a similar force within my self, It lies to me, it's very critical, it comments on others, it's always looking to attack and manipulate, It's the devil within. The only thing that has helped to silence it, for me is to become mindful of it, and accept it as being a part of my self. Which without I would be incomplete. I know the darkness exists, as does the light. I've met the darkness on mushrooms, and while not the mushroom. No drugs of any kind were used in these experiences: I was using a spirit board, I spoke to a very nasty darkness, a lower vibration being, it called me a fag, it called ISIS the goddess a C**t, and the whole room became as cold as ice, with blasting hot heat on... Another time I had the darkness come into my bedroom, it began to play with the lamp on my dresser, it flickered; then something strange happened, the whole room grew dark, as though a black aura had come into the room the light became very dim. That lamp I still have, not once has it ever gone dim, flicked or shorted out. I will also note, that I had my bedroom door open and the light was on in the hallway it did not flicker. This was not a power-surge. I know for certain from my experience the darkness exists without, and within.

I suggest looking at this article: http://www.awakeninthedream.com/the-masters-of-deception/ The darkness, is very much like the Christian satan, it is the greatest Imitator, the ultimate deceiver, and very cunning. It's using your own fear of hell, and demonic possession against you. hell is not a real place which souls go no matter how evil. They go to the vibration place that matches the frequency that they are at to sit alone in a darkness of personal reflection to reflect on the self's, and see what they need to change. Ultimately having to face them selfs.

Another thing I must mention, is this shaman woman, I'm an empath, and an intuitive and I always trust my feelings. I feel very bad vibes from this person. As soon as you said "it didn't feel right" that was a major red flag for me. The feelings never lie, the mind however does.

I will also add I feel very much you've become out of balance. You've focused very much on all that is great and good but have forgotten to face your own darkness and truly acknowledge and accept this. If this is not done, you can take as many plant medicines as you desire, and nothing will change. Continuously taking the plant medicine to solve your dilemma will not fix it. I see taking the plants as much like going to school. If one does not apply what they have learned there is no point in going at all.

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Law of Dynamic Balance
This is the law of survival:  in order
to survive, to say nothing of advancing
along the spiritual path, you must keep
all parts of your universe and yourself
in balance.  All excess is dangerous.
Flexibility is the keyword, and
extremes are to be avoided.  Remember,
however, that EXTREME FLEXIBILITY IS AN
EXTREME.  What is needed is a DYNAMIC
balance rather than a static one.  This
is a balance in movement, so to speak;
it is a hemeostatic balance, one that
constantly shifts to account for
changes in the surrounding conditions.
If you detect a paradox in this law,
you are not mistaken.  This is one of
several laws that seem paradoxical.
But what the hell, the universe is just
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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: UrbanWizard]
    #24028333 - 01/21/17 02:20 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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Another thing I must mention, is this shaman woman, I'm an empath, and an intuitive and I always trust my feelings. I feel very bad vibes from this person. As soon as you said "it didn't feel right" that was a major red flag for me. The feelings never lie, the mind however does.




Yeah you get it, based on your experiences, it sounds like you have a pretty good understanding of all this. I was pinned down to a chair by something invisible a few years ago and it forced its way into my heart. Bizarre stuff. This shaman, her words, its all doom and gloom, all darkness and hopelessness. If you're good at reading people, here she is:


I get the sense shes both good and bad. For whatever reason, I got the dark side of her. My troubles began with her ceremony. I got good vibes from her website, but bad, bad vibes at the ceremony. Walking into that room felt like walking into a trap.


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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: entheologist]
    #24810855 - 11/27/17 11:23 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Hello dear earthly brother, you have been manipulated by higher forces, your fight is not the fight of flesh and blood, but of higher places.

Ephesians 6:12 King James Version; 12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.(KJV)

This topic is about Satan/fallen angels and demon possession, yet nobody here mention our Father, bible, or Yeshua.

I been sent here for you to tell you, if you truly want to find your light, try harder, open your heart and then your eyes and ears, the Lord of darkness found you, and you accepted.

Repent my dear brother, ask for forgiveness and ask the Father to show you the truth and the way, if you need any help, feel free to contact me. PM. God bless you.


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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: Shepard] * 1
    #24810982 - 11/28/17 02:40 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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Hello dear earthly brother, you have been manipulated by higher forces, your fight is not the fight of flesh and blood, but of higher places.

Ephesians 6:12 King James Version; 12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.(KJV)

This topic is about Satan/fallen angels and demon possession, yet nobody here mention our Father, bible, or Yeshua.

I been sent here for you to tell you, if you truly want to find your light, try harder, open your heart and then your eyes and ears, the Lord of darkness found you, and you accepted.

Repent my dear brother, ask for forgiveness and ask the Father to show you the truth and the way, if you need any help, feel free to contact me. PM. God bless you.



Learn to use a forum before you come on here all trying to convert psychotic drug users. They need medical help not divine intervention.

There's the odd mentally ill person on here but the vast majority have been shown their own understandings and are immune to religion and it's trappings.

You'll have more success on Facebook, more likes too.


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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: Northerner]
    #24811035 - 11/28/17 05:06 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Fairly certain I ran into the same person on the Nexus talking about being infected by a demonic spirit that was talking to him, I apologise if I'm wrong.

If I could remember my password/security question I'd be able to reference, hope all goes well regardless :smile:


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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: Sore]
    #24811039 - 11/28/17 05:18 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

There is no hell.  There are no demons whose sole purpose is to drag souls to a nonexistant hell.  Be alpha as fuck, face these weak ass wisps of shadow, and show no fear.  We rule the physical world, not stupid "demons"


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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: Helnak]
    #24811259 - 11/28/17 08:47 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

I think that you need to lay off the drugs


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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: entheologist]
    #24811392 - 11/28/17 10:19 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

in all my trips i have yet to see a "demon"

every entity has had this "neutral" vibe. You just need to have a neutral perspective. Thats what a lot of people who claim this stuff have a problem with.


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I do not know its name; I call it tao.
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Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #24811427 - 11/28/17 10:37 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

EVERYTIME I TRIP ZAK BAGANS VISITS ME TO WARN OFF EVIL ENTITIES I GET VISITED BY A SHAOLIN POPE AND HE IS FROM ANCIENT USA TIMES!


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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: Helnak]
    #24811432 - 11/28/17 10:40 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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There is no hell.  There are no demons whose sole purpose is to drag souls to a nonexistant hell.  Be alpha as fuck, face these weak ass wisps of shadow, and show no fear.  We rule the physical world, not stupid "demons"



It’s funny how you guys say that with such conviction.


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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: Helnak]
    #24811502 - 11/28/17 11:17 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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There is no hell.  There are no demons whose sole purpose is to drag souls to a nonexistant hell.  Be alpha as fuck, face these weak ass wisps of shadow, and show no fear.  We rule the physical world, not stupid "demons"





We dont rule shit. One hurricane would erase you and anyone who has ever thought about you.

There may be a hell. Maybe hell is a place where you have to think about all the fucked up shit you did to people. Or mnaybe hell is just the absence of peace of mind. We dont know.


but as far as a place pf fire to torture you because you smoked a joint...is obviously fake.


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Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #24811625 - 11/28/17 12:10 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

I assume people are referring to christianity's version of hell.  And as far as us ruling, I meant that spirits have no power over our physicality.


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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: Helnak]
    #24811679 - 11/28/17 12:32 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Demons are real entities. People that don't believe in them are their favorite treat. I know first hand. Imagine my shock being a long time skeptic. Its all ridiculous and unfortunate. Wish it wasn't true but it is. So I accept it and tell others when the need arises.


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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: Errl_Shmirl]
    #24811724 - 11/28/17 12:51 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

I don't believe in demons, and i've never encountered one. If i were to encounter one, then i'd know they were real, no belief required. I'm not going to believe in something unless i can personally experience it. I do not believe or see any reason to believe that demons are of any concern when it comes to Psychedelics. People, especially those with a Christian background, are more prone to the demonic scare tactic and fear/panic when things get hairy scary, but i don't need demons to tell me that my body is freaking out over the intensity of an experience thinking there's something negative around when really it's just my mind, and i can rather easily make negative thoughts/feelings go away and focus on a more positive headspace.

Demons are lame, and imo are not real, but people will believe in something they don't understand and haven't looked into further. A lot of so called "demonic encounters" imo can be explained by people's irrational fears, conditioning/belief system, and mistaking things going on within the body for some negative external entities, they don't actually investigate things to figure out what's going on, they get scared and then say Psychedelics are demonic or that Psychedelics open you up to demonic possession, when really i just think they're projecting their fears onto something and instead of digging deeper to see what's really going on, they dismiss it as some demon, not very scientific imo. Speaking of which, i wonder why they don't have demons in clinical Psychedelic sessions....


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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: Sabnock]
    #24811857 - 11/28/17 01:31 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

I have definitely conversed with negative entities, but honestly, even as someone who is polarized to green-ray ... I know they like the catalyst we provide each other. I'm far more fun alive :p

Jedi shit about fighting polarity is laughable. Takes two to tango and make the cosmos turn


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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: Errl_Shmirl]
    #24811900 - 11/28/17 01:45 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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Demons are real entities. People that don't believe in them are their favorite treat. I know first hand. Imagine my shock being a long time skeptic. Its all ridiculous and unfortunate. Wish it wasn't true but it is. So I accept it and tell others when the need arises.




Can you elaborate on your definition of demons? Anyone else that believes in them, too. *cough* Amanita86 *cough*

I'm sure we have a few different interpretations so if you guys could be more specific, I'm interested. My understanding of demons is mostly from christianity which suggests demons are spiritual agents of the devil, like angels are spiritual agents of god. Physically, they can't be seen, but they can influence our thoughts and behaviors.

My question is how do you know that the presence you experienced was demonic? In christianity, the devil is a persuasive, clever, generous character. Yet god supposedly has similar attributes - generosity, knowledge, a vested interest in your behavior.

What was the moment that convinced you that your behavior was being influenced by a demon instead of god or your own free will? If you're so sure of your insight, demonstrating that knowledge should easily help the rest of us rationalize whether we're under demonic influence as well.


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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: Icon]
    #24812306 - 11/28/17 04:49 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

This is some heavy stuff.

Entheologist

Just know that there are people who care about your struggle even though they have not met you or know you personally, they know the seriousness of the struggle you are involved in and keep you in their hearts.

I cannot speak to your future, though I know it has yet to be fully determined, and it can go a variety of different ways. No matter how defeated you may feel, you are the deciding factor in your life


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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: zannabis]
    #24812393 - 11/28/17 05:16 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Entheologist, would you mind briefly explaining your religious views?  I think that would help the rest of us understand what you are experiencing and what you mean by demons and hell.  I noticed that your first sentence says that you have been possessed by demonS, plural, did I read that right?

Edit:  just noticed OP has not been online in 2 months, and this thread is 10 months old.


Edited by Helnak (11/28/17 05:20 PM)


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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: Helnak]
    #24812411 - 11/28/17 05:20 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Many people talk of this and I think it is a cop out.

Psychedelics are spiritually inducing substances.
It only makes sense that any spirit may or may not be invoked..

I smoke weed all the time and My thoughts get fucked with...

Call it "demonic possession" or what have You
the subconscious is real!!!


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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: Errl_Shmirl]
    #24812517 - 11/28/17 05:55 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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Demons are real entities. People that don't believe in them are their favorite treat. I know first hand. Imagine my shock being a long time skeptic. Its all ridiculous and unfortunate. Wish it wasn't true but it is. So I accept it and tell others when the need arises.



All entities are real to the beholder. But really, they're not really real.

But if you try to deny your visions they will manifest poorly. I've seen some dark shit when in the void, but none of that stuff can step through the barrier and attack me physically. Just like I've seen beautiful gods/goddesses as well.. Sadly they too can't step past the barrier from being all in my mind, mind, mind, mind, mind, mind....

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heatlessbbq said:
Many people talk of this and I think it is a cop out.

Psychedelics are spiritually inducing substances.
It only makes sense that any spirit may or may not be invoked..

I smoke weed all the time and My thoughts get fucked with...

Call it "demonic possession" or what have You
the subconscious is real!!!




Psychedelics are psychotic and anxiety inducing substances, to be more precise. You being fucked with is because you are taking psychotic drugs, not because of demons.



PS: this thread is 10 months old, the last time OP commented was 2 months ago from rehab.


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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: Northerner]
    #24812586 - 11/28/17 06:17 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

It happens...

It gets the best of You and it gets the worst of you.
in all honesty, ithink karma has a big thing to do with it.


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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: heatlessbbq]
    #24812605 - 11/28/17 06:23 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

excuse me for sounding so harsh with the last post,
its just you are talking about spirituality and psychedelics,
so it only makes sense to differentiate what a good spirit is and what a bad spirit is.

and TO WHAT END??? What does demonic possession really mean?
If I am consuming a psychedelic substances that offers an obvious effect that has to deal with my spirituality , that could be over analyzed in a million different ways.

Did a bad guy possess Your best friend or something?
That sounds a little too intense or anything of this reality.

Kind of crazy to think that people need to be exorcised and have demons dispelled from their own earthly bodies / vessels


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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: heatlessbbq]
    #24812678 - 11/28/17 06:49 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

ZAK BAGANS & DEREK ACORAH ROUTINELY VISIT ME during trips to keep me safe!


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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: entheologist]
    #28329876 - 05/22/23 12:00 PM (8 months, 4 days ago)

I have ejected a demon that took over my wife, in under 1 min time I may be able to help
If you would like to be free? And the demon never came back


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