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entheologist
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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: pineninja]
#24023029 - 01/19/17 02:05 PM (7 years, 11 days ago) |
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pineninja said: This is not the post of someone who's heart is closed.
I appreciate you saying that, but are you sure this isn't just the post of a closed hearted person who remembers all too well the awareness that comes with having ones heart open? I experienced unity consciousness. I know we're all the one consciousness, one spirit, one river. How could I ever have negative intentions towards anyone knowing this? If I was born this way on the other hand, I could easily be a bad person. After the aya ceremony, I instantly noticed it. I suddenly had a dead feeling in my chest. Its the most disturbing thing thats happened me, going through a full blown exorcism was somewhat disturbing, but losing my heart energy, thats the scariest part. Feels like I've descended to a lower being. Like a shell of my former self.
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pineninja
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Im sure of nothing. I've seen the stream I've been the moment and I too know that you and I are one. Reconciling these comparitively outrageous views and experiences with the self in relation to everyday life is always going to be tough... I too went through a tough period...the perspective you've been dealt will either consume or enrich you. After reading your perspectives I think that with time you will be better, more whole and more loving than you ever were.
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Get Shwifty
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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: pineninja]
#24024562 - 01/20/17 12:18 AM (7 years, 11 days ago) |
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Demons or spirits cannot hurt you pal.
My close friend has seen demons on DMT, in my bedroom as a matter of fact. I've interacted with poltergeists, and I've been haunted by orbs during puberty. None of these will actually harm you.
You are the one in control of your thoughts, and your life. You have nothing to fear from DMT or demons/spirits.
You should also seek actual therapy from a professional. Don't blame demons for your erratic and paranoid thoughts. These are mental health issues that need to be addressed.
If a bunch of spiritual/open minded people are telling you to seek help, you should definitely listen to them.
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UrbanWizard
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"This one seems to operate in the background, and its strategic and intelligent. It basically opposes all I value, kindness, altruism, compassion, awareness, equality, justice. Its the polar opposite of all that. So I seem to have a really bad one. "
This sound's to me like you have not been possessed by anything other than your own shadow the complete opposite of you."The moment she started doing her thing, it started. I started shaking at superhuman speeds, growling, roaring at the top of my lungs, taking on demonic facial expressions. It didn't feel out of my control at all, and I wasn't scared (I wasn't feeling anything really) and I was telling the shaman "its okay, don't worry" because I felt like it was okay, I just needed to get something out." again it was not out of your control because it was you. I've some experienced a similar thing, it's my shadow self. I have recognized a similar force within my self, It lies to me, it's very critical, it comments on others, it's always looking to attack and manipulate, It's the devil within. The only thing that has helped to silence it, for me is to become mindful of it, and accept it as being a part of my self. Which without I would be incomplete. I know the darkness exists, as does the light. I've met the darkness on mushrooms, and while not the mushroom. No drugs of any kind were used in these experiences: I was using a spirit board, I spoke to a very nasty darkness, a lower vibration being, it called me a fag, it called ISIS the goddess a C**t, and the whole room became as cold as ice, with blasting hot heat on... Another time I had the darkness come into my bedroom, it began to play with the lamp on my dresser, it flickered; then something strange happened, the whole room grew dark, as though a black aura had come into the room the light became very dim. That lamp I still have, not once has it ever gone dim, flicked or shorted out. I will also note, that I had my bedroom door open and the light was on in the hallway it did not flicker. This was not a power-surge. I know for certain from my experience the darkness exists without, and within.
I suggest looking at this article: http://www.awakeninthedream.com/the-masters-of-deception/ The darkness, is very much like the Christian satan, it is the greatest Imitator, the ultimate deceiver, and very cunning. It's using your own fear of hell, and demonic possession against you. hell is not a real place which souls go no matter how evil. They go to the vibration place that matches the frequency that they are at to sit alone in a darkness of personal reflection to reflect on the self's, and see what they need to change. Ultimately having to face them selfs.
Another thing I must mention, is this shaman woman, I'm an empath, and an intuitive and I always trust my feelings. I feel very bad vibes from this person. As soon as you said "it didn't feel right" that was a major red flag for me. The feelings never lie, the mind however does.
I will also add I feel very much you've become out of balance. You've focused very much on all that is great and good but have forgotten to face your own darkness and truly acknowledge and accept this. If this is not done, you can take as many plant medicines as you desire, and nothing will change. Continuously taking the plant medicine to solve your dilemma will not fix it. I see taking the plants as much like going to school. If one does not apply what they have learned there is no point in going at all.
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Law of Dynamic Balance This is the law of survival: in order to survive, to say nothing of advancing along the spiritual path, you must keep all parts of your universe and yourself in balance. All excess is dangerous. Flexibility is the keyword, and extremes are to be avoided. Remember, however, that EXTREME FLEXIBILITY IS AN EXTREME. What is needed is a DYNAMIC balance rather than a static one. This is a balance in movement, so to speak; it is a hemeostatic balance, one that constantly shifts to account for changes in the surrounding conditions. If you detect a paradox in this law, you are not mistaken. This is one of several laws that seem paradoxical. But what the hell, the universe is just made that way.
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entheologist
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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: UrbanWizard]
#24028333 - 01/21/17 02:20 PM (7 years, 9 days ago) |
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UrbanWizard said: Another thing I must mention, is this shaman woman, I'm an empath, and an intuitive and I always trust my feelings. I feel very bad vibes from this person. As soon as you said "it didn't feel right" that was a major red flag for me. The feelings never lie, the mind however does.
Yeah you get it, based on your experiences, it sounds like you have a pretty good understanding of all this. I was pinned down to a chair by something invisible a few years ago and it forced its way into my heart. Bizarre stuff. This shaman, her words, its all doom and gloom, all darkness and hopelessness. If you're good at reading people, here she is:
I get the sense shes both good and bad. For whatever reason, I got the dark side of her. My troubles began with her ceremony. I got good vibes from her website, but bad, bad vibes at the ceremony. Walking into that room felt like walking into a trap.
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Shepard
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Hello dear earthly brother, you have been manipulated by higher forces, your fight is not the fight of flesh and blood, but of higher places.
Ephesians 6:12 King James Version; 12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.(KJV)
This topic is about Satan/fallen angels and demon possession, yet nobody here mention our Father, bible, or Yeshua.
I been sent here for you to tell you, if you truly want to find your light, try harder, open your heart and then your eyes and ears, the Lord of darkness found you, and you accepted.
Repent my dear brother, ask for forgiveness and ask the Father to show you the truth and the way, if you need any help, feel free to contact me. PM. God bless you.
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Northerner
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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: Shepard] 1
#24810982 - 11/28/17 02:40 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shepard said: Hello dear earthly brother, you have been manipulated by higher forces, your fight is not the fight of flesh and blood, but of higher places.
Ephesians 6:12 King James Version; 12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.(KJV)
This topic is about Satan/fallen angels and demon possession, yet nobody here mention our Father, bible, or Yeshua.
I been sent here for you to tell you, if you truly want to find your light, try harder, open your heart and then your eyes and ears, the Lord of darkness found you, and you accepted.
Repent my dear brother, ask for forgiveness and ask the Father to show you the truth and the way, if you need any help, feel free to contact me. PM. God bless you.
Learn to use a forum before you come on here all trying to convert psychotic drug users. They need medical help not divine intervention.
There's the odd mentally ill person on here but the vast majority have been shown their own understandings and are immune to religion and it's trappings.
You'll have more success on Facebook, more likes too.
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Sore
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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: Northerner]
#24811035 - 11/28/17 05:06 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Fairly certain I ran into the same person on the Nexus talking about being infected by a demonic spirit that was talking to him, I apologise if I'm wrong.
If I could remember my password/security question I'd be able to reference, hope all goes well regardless
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Helnak
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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: Sore]
#24811039 - 11/28/17 05:18 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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There is no hell. There are no demons whose sole purpose is to drag souls to a nonexistant hell. Be alpha as fuck, face these weak ass wisps of shadow, and show no fear. We rule the physical world, not stupid "demons"
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Corundum
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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: Helnak]
#24811259 - 11/28/17 08:47 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think that you need to lay off the drugs
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Bill_Oreilly
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in all my trips i have yet to see a "demon"
every entity has had this "neutral" vibe. You just need to have a neutral perspective. Thats what a lot of people who claim this stuff have a problem with.
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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wannabmckenna
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EVERYTIME I TRIP ZAK BAGANS VISITS ME TO WARN OFF EVIL ENTITIES I GET VISITED BY A SHAOLIN POPE AND HE IS FROM ANCIENT USA TIMES!
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Amanita86
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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: Helnak]
#24811432 - 11/28/17 10:40 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Helnak said: There is no hell. There are no demons whose sole purpose is to drag souls to a nonexistant hell. Be alpha as fuck, face these weak ass wisps of shadow, and show no fear. We rule the physical world, not stupid "demons"
It’s funny how you guys say that with such conviction.
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Bill_Oreilly
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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: Helnak]
#24811502 - 11/28/17 11:17 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Helnak said: There is no hell. There are no demons whose sole purpose is to drag souls to a nonexistant hell. Be alpha as fuck, face these weak ass wisps of shadow, and show no fear. We rule the physical world, not stupid "demons"
We dont rule shit. One hurricane would erase you and anyone who has ever thought about you.
There may be a hell. Maybe hell is a place where you have to think about all the fucked up shit you did to people. Or mnaybe hell is just the absence of peace of mind. We dont know.
but as far as a place pf fire to torture you because you smoked a joint...is obviously fake.
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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Helnak
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I assume people are referring to christianity's version of hell. And as far as us ruling, I meant that spirits have no power over our physicality.
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Errl_Shmirl
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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: Helnak]
#24811679 - 11/28/17 12:32 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Demons are real entities. People that don't believe in them are their favorite treat. I know first hand. Imagine my shock being a long time skeptic. Its all ridiculous and unfortunate. Wish it wasn't true but it is. So I accept it and tell others when the need arises.
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Sabnock
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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: Errl_Shmirl]
#24811724 - 11/28/17 12:51 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't believe in demons, and i've never encountered one. If i were to encounter one, then i'd know they were real, no belief required. I'm not going to believe in something unless i can personally experience it. I do not believe or see any reason to believe that demons are of any concern when it comes to Psychedelics. People, especially those with a Christian background, are more prone to the demonic scare tactic and fear/panic when things get hairy scary, but i don't need demons to tell me that my body is freaking out over the intensity of an experience thinking there's something negative around when really it's just my mind, and i can rather easily make negative thoughts/feelings go away and focus on a more positive headspace.
Demons are lame, and imo are not real, but people will believe in something they don't understand and haven't looked into further. A lot of so called "demonic encounters" imo can be explained by people's irrational fears, conditioning/belief system, and mistaking things going on within the body for some negative external entities, they don't actually investigate things to figure out what's going on, they get scared and then say Psychedelics are demonic or that Psychedelics open you up to demonic possession, when really i just think they're projecting their fears onto something and instead of digging deeper to see what's really going on, they dismiss it as some demon, not very scientific imo. Speaking of which, i wonder why they don't have demons in clinical Psychedelic sessions....
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Snazz
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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: Sabnock]
#24811857 - 11/28/17 01:31 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have definitely conversed with negative entities, but honestly, even as someone who is polarized to green-ray ... I know they like the catalyst we provide each other. I'm far more fun alive :p
Jedi shit about fighting polarity is laughable. Takes two to tango and make the cosmos turn
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Icon
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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: Errl_Shmirl]
#24811900 - 11/28/17 01:45 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Errl_Shmirl said: Demons are real entities. People that don't believe in them are their favorite treat. I know first hand. Imagine my shock being a long time skeptic. Its all ridiculous and unfortunate. Wish it wasn't true but it is. So I accept it and tell others when the need arises.
Can you elaborate on your definition of demons? Anyone else that believes in them, too. *cough* Amanita86 *cough*
I'm sure we have a few different interpretations so if you guys could be more specific, I'm interested. My understanding of demons is mostly from christianity which suggests demons are spiritual agents of the devil, like angels are spiritual agents of god. Physically, they can't be seen, but they can influence our thoughts and behaviors.
My question is how do you know that the presence you experienced was demonic? In christianity, the devil is a persuasive, clever, generous character. Yet god supposedly has similar attributes - generosity, knowledge, a vested interest in your behavior.
What was the moment that convinced you that your behavior was being influenced by a demon instead of god or your own free will? If you're so sure of your insight, demonstrating that knowledge should easily help the rest of us rationalize whether we're under demonic influence as well.
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zannabis
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Re: DMT for demonic possession [Re: Icon]
#24812306 - 11/28/17 04:49 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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This is some heavy stuff.
Entheologist
Just know that there are people who care about your struggle even though they have not met you or know you personally, they know the seriousness of the struggle you are involved in and keep you in their hearts.
I cannot speak to your future, though I know it has yet to be fully determined, and it can go a variety of different ways. No matter how defeated you may feel, you are the deciding factor in your life
I wish you peace
-------------------- To A Good Life, And A Better One
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