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Am I ready for DMT?
#24013297 - 01/15/17 09:54 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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I've done mushrooms a lot but after a bad trip I can only take 1 gram because more will freak me out. I used to be able to do 7 grams easily but after a bad trip I can't. However I can do extremely high doses of Salvia Divinorum still. I pack the fattest possible bowl I can of 60x extract and always take it all in one hit and have done it more than 30 times. From what I've read a DMT trip is kinda like to a Salvia trip but Salvia is more unpleasant and less fun. I think the reason I can smoke Salvia is its not a triptamine. I have hopes DMT will make me not so scared of psilocybin anymore but I realize that's a slim possiblitly. At the very least tho I just want to do DMT. Do you guys think I'm ready or should I wait? I personally think I can based on how people describe it but at the same Time describing something like that doesnt do it justice and I've never taken DMT so I don't know what to expect.
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Re: Am I ready for DMT? [Re: crispy86]
#24013355 - 01/15/17 10:29 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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expect to peer behind the curtain of reality. you will see what goes on "backstage" so to speak. you might encounter entities if you vape a high enough dose
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Re: Am I ready for DMT? [Re: crispy86]
#24013367 - 01/15/17 10:39 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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That's reassuring. I've seen entities countless times on Salvia it's something I'm very familiar with. I know what you mean bye the backstage thing Salvia dose that to me. Do you think there's any possibility of me being able to do a good dose of mush again after a couple dose of DMT? Psilocybin is related to dimethaltriptamine
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Psychedelictripper said: That's reassuring. I've seen entities countless times on Salvia it's something I'm very familiar with. I know what you mean bye the backstage thing Salvia dose that to me. Do you think there's any possibility of me being able to do a good dose of mush again after a couple dose of DMT? Psilocybin is related to dimethaltriptamine
yeah, you can take mushrooms after a DMT trip. in my experience, i prefer to eat the mushrooms first, and then during the peak, take a blast of DMT. it is like blasting off from mars instead of earth, if that makes sense. less fear/anxiety prior to the blast off. you are already on your way to going deeper into consciousness
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Re: Am I ready for DMT? [Re: crispy86]
#24013403 - 01/15/17 11:05 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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Do you think micro dosing with .5 grams would Make it easier to handle? 1gram is a good trip but I'm already a little nervous 1.5 is like the most i can handle now.
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Re: Am I ready for DMT? [Re: crispy86]
#24013404 - 01/15/17 11:05 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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That's the best way to go deep into salvia too. Dxm catapults salvia real effectively if you're still in the dxm phase of your life. There's some kind of weird synergy between those two..
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Like micro dosing before smoking dmt I mean.
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Re: Am I ready for DMT? [Re: Amanita86]
#24013410 - 01/15/17 11:08 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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Interesting. Dxm I think is a little more risky then I like tho. I've heard dmt and Salvia syngerise really well but I don't think some of the most experienced psychonaughts could handle that. People hAve done it tho so it's possible.
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If you've never tried dmt I personally would try it by itself so you don't get confused on which chemical is doing what and get a better understanding of what dmt is bringing to the table. After that mix and match however you want. That's just how I would approach it..
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On the other hand tho I feel like DMT and Salvia wouldn't make either expeirence more intense it's just two things happening at once. Like I feel the combo is almost as easy to handle as just one at a time but idk I can't help but feel that would be so so intense.
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You mean oral dmt? I think it would be pretty tricky pairing up smoked dmt with salvia. That pairing would be pure chaos and confusion probably.
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Re: Am I ready for DMT? [Re: Amanita86]
#24013418 - 01/15/17 11:11 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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Ya for sure I'll try it stone cold sober the first time. But u do wanna try microdoing before hand at someppoint tho. I think that could really help me with doing a normal dose of mush again
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Re: Am I ready for DMT? [Re: Amanita86]
#24013424 - 01/15/17 11:13 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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I ment smoked. But what you said kinda makes me think it would be awful because sometimes I see the most fucked up shit on Salvia but I'm just to out of it to realize what I'm seeing is fucked up. It's once I come down I realize how bad it was.
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Sorry for my spelling. I'm using the spell check but nothing highlights in red for some reason
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Who knows, that bad trip could have just been the particular alkaloid profile of that mushroom. I had a batch that was pure panic attack each time I ate them. I ate some PESA and was great, but then ate skme more of the panicky ones and was back to anxiety overload. I don't know why they were that way. I forget what 'strain' they were..
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Psychedelictripper said: On the other hand tho I feel like DMT and Salvia wouldn't make either expeirence more intense it's just two things happening at once. Like I feel the combo is almost as easy to handle as just one at a time but idk I can't help but feel that would be so so intense.
Id get used to salvia on a more gentle psychedelic before going straight to mixing it with dmt. Even dmt by itself can be so scary but its so terrifying that its awesome to me. You just have to let it take you because its going to take you no matter what and its better to just be calm about it and keep your mind steady.
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I would like to think being in a naive state would make any trip work due to the wondrous mindset you will be in.
Set and setting should be the key. I never tried DMT, but I've tried the 'others'
I would if I could.
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If you can rip 60x salvia then yeah I'm pretty sure you can handle dmt. If not then you're possibly a demon. Lol jk. Good luck!
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Re: Am I ready for DMT? [Re: Kinshino]
#24014371 - 01/16/17 11:15 AM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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Thanks guys. That gives me a lot of confidence which is what I need. I didn't think it was super relevant because I don't do LSD anymore at all not because i freak out on it but because i just dont know what im getting, i did it once sense my bad trip because i knew it was LSD-25 and had a good trip but I actually had my bad trip on 25i I thought was LSD. At least until it kicked in and I realized it wasnt LSD... at all. I completely lost my shit and now I can't handle triptamines. 1.5 grams of shrooms already makes me have the worst come up anxiety. That's another thing to point out. There was ALOT more on the tabs then I paid for. I just kept going up and up and up. Because of that I get awful come up anxiety. I'm really good at dealing with an incredibly intense experience with next to no come up. To the user the experience can feel like an eternity so it's not necessarily a short trip but knowing you don't move or talk much is what let's me experience bliss in that state. When I do a triptamine were I'm walking around and tripping for 8 hours I'm so scared that at some point I'll do something awful and it never happenes but its a constent fear when I trip. I smoke salvia knowing I can't move or do anything crazy. That's what let's me enjoy an intense trip. Because DMT is a triptamine that produces a state I am so accustomed to I think it will help me get over my fear. I have done not High but average doses once sense then and had a good time but I was freaking out so hard until I hit my peak. Once I hit my peak I could mellow out and it was really fun but until then i was curled up in the fetal postion in bed hoping i dont get to high and decide to kill myself (literally i was scared i would get to high and kill myself. It was a breif thoight that only crossed my mind but still). Its not evrn so much i cant handle a hard trip its that i dont trust myself when i trip. When im on salvia i dont need to trust myself i cant move. Also to clear things up mixing dmt and Salvia was a hypothetical I don't actually wanna do it but I read it was a good combo if you can handle it.
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My Internet is incredibly bad. I may have already posted this but I'm not sure so if I posted this twice in a row I apologize. I didn't think it was relevant but I actually had my bad trip on 25i I thought was LSD, until it kicked in and i realized it wasnt LSD... at all...I don't do LSD anymore at all because I don't know what I'm getting. After my bad trip One time I got the chance to do some I knew was LSD-25 and did a low dose and had a good trip but a lot of come up anxiety. Another thing that I should've mentioned is that there was a lot more on the tabs then I think I paid for. I just kept going up and up for so long. I can handle an intense psychedelic experience but after that I have awful come up anxiety. There was one time I did a average dose after my bad trip and I had a good trip overall but my come up was literally so bad I was scared I was going to get to high and kill myself. It was only a brief thought but u was so scared I was gonna do something bad when I hit my peak. Once I do hit my peak and I know that I'm as High as I'm gonna get I can handle it for the most part. Its not that I can't handle them anymore so much as I don't trust myself on them like I used to because I freaked out so badly on 25i and scared alot of people. On Salvia you don't move at all and there is essentially no come up bease the effects start instantly and that's perfect for me. I don't need to trust myself because I can't move and I know how high I am as soon as I smoke it... even if I'm to high to comprehend I'm high or even what's going on... but when I get that high it doesn't matter how high I am cause I Dont know I'm high until middle of my trip when I realize there's something wrong and it hits me I smoked salvia.
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Psychedelictripper said: Thanks guys. That gives me a lot of confidence which is what I need. I didn't think it was super relevant because I don't do LSD anymore at all not because i freak out on it but because i just dont know what im getting, i did it once sense my bad trip because i knew it was LSD-25 and had a good trip but I actually had my bad trip on 25i I thought was LSD. At least until it kicked in and I realized it wasnt LSD... at all. I completely lost my shit and now I can't handle triptamines. 1.5 grams of shrooms already makes me have the worst come up anxiety. That's another thing to point out. There was ALOT more on the tabs then I paid for. I just kept going up and up and up. Because of that I get awful come up anxiety. I'm really good at dealing with an incredibly intense experience with next to no come up. To the user the experience can feel like an eternity so it's not necessarily a short trip but knowing you don't move or talk much is what let's me experience bliss in that state. When I do a triptamine were I'm walking around and tripping for 8 hours I'm so scared that at some point I'll do something awful and it never happenes but its a constent fear when I trip. I smoke salvia knowing I can't move or do anything crazy. That's what let's me enjoy an intense trip. Because DMT is a triptamine that produces a state I am so accustomed to I think it will help me get over my fear. I have done not High but average doses once sense then and had a good time but I was freaking out so hard until I hit my peak. Once I hit my peak I could mellow out and it was really fun but until then i was curled up in the fetal postion in bed hoping i dont get to high and decide to kill myself (literally i was scared i would get to high and kill myself. It was a breif thoight that only crossed my mind but still). Its not evrn so much i cant handle a hard trip its that i dont trust myself when i trip. When im on salvia i dont need to trust myself i cant move. Also to clear things up mixing dmt and Salvia was a hypothetical I don't actually wanna do it but I read it was a good combo if you can handle it.
25i isn't a tryptamine just wanted to throw that out there.
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really? i actually didn't know that. thanks for letting me know, i guess its just psychedelics in general then other then salvia and hopefully DMT.
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Distract yourself, start coloring or painting till you see small visuals, then start meditating or go lay down and zone out on your ceiling.
I once felt the potential of a bad trip, but just like lucid dreaming, I turned around and adventured forth.
Good luck padawan.
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should i listen to music or would outside sounds taint the experience?
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Sometimes the sweet sound of silence is the best song to get into your mind.
If youre indoors, music definitely. If youre outdoors, just let nature take over.
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Ill try it silent in my bed and with music some other time. another question i have is that for the most part my understanding is that smoked DMT lasts for 15-30 minutes but ive heard stories about people tripping for like 4 or more hours. ive had salvia trips that lasted almost an hour so i wouldnt be surprised if that just means someone took a very high dose but at the same time 4 hours to me seems like alot. atleast for smoked dmt.
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Psychedelictripper said: I've done mushrooms a lot but after a bad trip I can only take 1 gram because more will freak me out. I used to be able to do 7 grams easily but after a bad trip I can't. However I can do extremely high doses of Salvia Divinorum still. I pack the fattest possible bowl I can of 60x extract and always take it all in one hit and have done it more than 30 times. From what I've read a DMT trip is kinda like to a Salvia trip but Salvia is more unpleasant and less fun. I think the reason I can smoke Salvia is its not a triptamine. I have hopes DMT will make me not so scared of psilocybin anymore but I realize that's a slim possiblitly. At the very least tho I just want to do DMT. Do you guys think I'm ready or should I wait? I personally think I can based on how people describe it but at the same Time describing something like that doesnt do it justice and I've never taken DMT so I don't know what to expect.
Nobody is ready for DMT.
You are ready for DMT.
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does experience with other psychedelics matter or is it just something so different that doesnt really matter
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Psychedelictripper said: does experience with other psychedelics matter or is it just something so different that doesnt really matter
I wouldnt give it to someone who has no experience with other psychs
but at the same time it wouldnt be a crime to do so.
hope that makes sense
you always wants to be as prepared as possible
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i get that. i said earlier that i completely understand you cant explain something like a DMT rrip but from what ive read and heard DMT sounds very fun making it easier to handle, its a very kind psychedelic.
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