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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Offlineakira_akuma
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Re: The Dream Dreams the Dreamer [Re: Lucis]
    #24022154 - 01/19/17 07:25 AM (7 years, 11 days ago)

apparently what dreams are "sent" do not wish to be disclosed to the rational and awake mind. it's kind of a gyp, honestly.


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Re: The Dream Dreams the Dreamer [Re: akira_akuma]
    #24022774 - 01/19/17 12:03 PM (7 years, 11 days ago)

there is no sending of dreams
that is all upside down


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Re: The Dream Dreams the Dreamer [Re: redgreenvines]
    #24023520 - 01/19/17 05:29 PM (7 years, 11 days ago)

I think dreams are influenced by the subconscious thoughts we have throughout our day, at least that's what happens in my experience, if I have something on the back of my mind throughout the day I tend to often dream about something related to those thoughts. :shrug:


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Re: The Dream Dreams the Dreamer [Re: sudly]
    #24023997 - 01/19/17 07:54 PM (7 years, 11 days ago)

or maybe your waking life is the dream you wake up from when you fall asleep :fatfear:


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Kupo said:
let's fuel the robots with psilocybin.

cez said:
everyone should smoke dmt for religion.

dustinthewind13 said:
euthanasia and prostitution should be legal and located in the same building.

White Beard said:
if you see the buddha on the road, rape him, then kill him. then rape him again.


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Re: The Dream Dreams the Dreamer [Re: blingbling]
    #24024771 - 01/20/17 05:33 AM (7 years, 10 days ago)

sleeping is an optional property that can be associated with dreaming


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Re: The Dream Dreams the Dreamer [Re: redgreenvines]
    #24025028 - 01/20/17 08:40 AM (7 years, 10 days ago)

Quote from Longchenpa that me likey:

Appreciating delusory objective appearances as dream,
the intellect lets go and the grasping immediately ceases-the
objective aspect debunked, the subjective side retires.
Then whenever the mind meets situations as dream,
the intellect searching inside and outside and in between
for something substantial and solid to grasp,
unable to find any point of reference
it subsides into all-penetrating sky-like space,
and intrinsic presence devoid of all compulsive mental activity
arises spontaneously as simple empty clarity.

Grasping ceasing, nothing to be grasped,
the vessel inverted, its contents lost,
phenomena are disassociated, lacking any boundaries.
That is nondual unconditional primal awareness.


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Re: The Dream Dreams the Dreamer [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #24027288 - 01/21/17 02:30 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

Isn't "non-dual unconditional primal awareness" itself a category that must be grasped? The fact that we can read that poem at all tells me we are grasping at something.


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Kupo said:
let's fuel the robots with psilocybin.

cez said:
everyone should smoke dmt for religion.

dustinthewind13 said:
euthanasia and prostitution should be legal and located in the same building.

White Beard said:
if you see the buddha on the road, rape him, then kill him. then rape him again.


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Re: The Dream Dreams the Dreamer [Re: redgreenvines] * 1
    #24029496 - 01/22/17 12:49 AM (7 years, 8 days ago)

The most advanced lucid dreamers know this to be true.

At the highest skill level, dreamers will no longer talk to the characters in "their dream" but address the dream itself. Because, after much time and dedication they will realize that it is the dream that is the Self - the characters, and themselves, merely distractions or illusions. So real knowledge comes from the source of the dream (whatever that could be!) not the forms inside it. The messages from the characters are often mysterious, crytpic and, quite frankly, usually nonsense.

You can test this for your self...

Next time you are in a lucid dream, make a demand or request of one of the characters: "If you are simply a form and do not represent my true unconscious source, dissapear at once!" the forms will dissapear - if not, then they are worth asking further questions to learn about dream reality, the unconscious, archetypes and all that great jazz. But you have to make sure they represent the Self itself, not a part of your childhood, or a thought form created during a trauma, and so on.. although this could be potentially enlightening as well.

It's the Self.. the source of YOU. It dreams you up. So don't pay attention to the characters so much, as what the dream is displaying to you. And realizing that you are a character, in the Dream's Dream... now that, is self awareness!



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Re: The Dream Dreams the Dreamer [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #24029695 - 01/22/17 05:23 AM (7 years, 8 days ago)

the mind is like a spotlight constantly seeking to shine the light on you. one can confront it.


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