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First Poppy flowering. Need help IDing strain
    #24012046 - 01/15/17 11:59 AM (7 years, 15 days ago)

HI all,

It seems this is the place to go for information, especially when it comes to identifying something. I hope this is the correct area for Poppies.

I have just gotten my first poppy (in pots, grown outdoors) plant to flower.  I ordered the seeds from amazon through chilhawaian and they came marked (Tasmanian Purple Poppy).  I was amazed at how small the seeds were when compared to my other strains (Hens + Chicks, Danish, China Whites, Giganteaums).

I now have a very juvenile Poppy plant that I know came from these small seeds labeled Tasmanian Purple Poppy, and it just flowered today.  The flower, however, is Pink/reddish, and I honestly don't think it's a Somniferum, but that's just based off differences in the leaves and not scientific.  The seed pod hasn't matured yet, but is about the size of a small marble.

Keep in mind, this plant was accidentally grown in too small of a pot, and was grown inside for a month due to the heat here in Florida.  It is doing fine now while outside, and is making another pod that is about to flower.


Can anyone help me ID the poppy via the pictures? If you need anymore info, i'd be glad to help.  One thing I can tell you is that the leaves aren't as serrated as my other strains growing, and there are little hairs all over the stems. Thanks!:









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Re: First Poppy flowering. Need help IDing strain [Re: poppynewbie]
    #24015744 - 01/16/17 08:01 PM (7 years, 14 days ago)

Anyone?  Is this the correct forum?  Moderators, if not, please advise. 

Thanks!


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Re: First Poppy flowering. Need help IDing strain [Re: poppynewbie]
    #24016329 - 01/17/17 12:21 AM (7 years, 14 days ago)

I'm having difficulty getting an ID for mine too.
The difference is I know mine are somniferum(not sure which cultivar) I just don't like the idea of bastardising seed by incorrectly naming and then giving away or selling.

I would also like to cross with other cultivars and its nice to be able to say that the mother is X and the father is Y.
It builds a good reputation for solid breeding.

As far as yours go they look like a somniferum but the leaf shape is a bit unclear.
I certainly wouldn't say that their tazmanians if somniferum at all.
The sprouts look positively somniferum but I would need a clearer picture of the stem to ID as somniferum.

If your poppy has hairs or a fuzzy flower stem its not somniferum.

Its likely that you have Papavier orientale and that someone thought they could make a quick buck off you buy selling them as Papavier somniferum.
I wouldn't buy seeds from Amazon.

Take close up photos of the stem and leaves I'm looking for colouration and form.
We'll see if we can ID it as Somniferum first and if so I'll reference it against some known tazzies to see if we can find out what you've got.


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Re: First Poppy flowering. Need help IDing strain [Re: poppynewbie]
    #24016435 - 01/17/17 01:45 AM (7 years, 13 days ago)

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Thanks!




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Re: First Poppy flowering. Need help IDing strain [Re: Dark lotus]
    #24018376 - 01/17/17 07:59 PM (7 years, 13 days ago)

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Dark lotus said:
I'm having difficulty getting an ID for mine too.
The difference is I know mine are somniferum(not sure which cultivar) I just don't like the idea of bastardising seed by incorrectly naming and then giving away or selling.

I would also like to cross with other cultivars and its nice to be able to say that the mother is X and the father is Y.
It builds a good reputation for solid breeding.

As far as yours go they look like a somniferum but the leaf shape is a bit unclear.
I certainly wouldn't say that their tazmanians if somniferum at all.
The sprouts look positively somniferum but I would need a clearer picture of the stem to ID as somniferum.

If your poppy has hairs or a fuzzy flower stem its not somniferum.

Its likely that you have Papavier orientale and that someone thought they could make a quick buck off you buy selling them as Papavier somniferum.
I wouldn't buy seeds from Amazon.

Take close up photos of the stem and leaves I'm looking for colouration and form.
We'll see if we can ID it as Somniferum first and if so I'll reference it against some known tazzies to see if we can find out what you've got.




Thanks for the response.  The seeds only cost $4, so I'm not worried about that.. I ordered the Tasmanians because, well, you know ; )

They first came out of China.  I misplaced the bag and bought another from the same vendor and those came from New Zealand, however the seeds look exactly the same, as well as the young plants.

The other seeds I've ordered from Amazon came in Paper pouches that have a picture of the poppy and the name.  They are from Outside Pride and are the fast germinators, which so are the so called Purple Poppies I bought.

Seed colors for The Hens are large and bluish, same goes for the Gigs.  The Danish Flag are beige colored, and the China Whites are definitely white.


I'm surprised you can't see the Prickly hairs on the stem when you enlarge the pictures I posted....?  The leaf shape is definitely the most pronounced on these fake "Tazzies," The rest of the crew are doing great and definitely happy with my others.

Here's a picture of the others (if observing as if a graph [quadrant 1 {upper right} are Danish Flag, 2 {upper Left} are Hens and Chicks, 3 {Lower left, Tan pot} is a China White, 4 are Gigs]).


Seems like they are much more Authentic...Waxy feeling leaves, no hairs. They were planted within 2-3 weeks of each other.  I found that directly sowing the seed is far better than dicking around with peat pellets.  And they also love their space.  I'm going to try 2-3 per pot until I move out of my apartment into my house in 5 weeks, then I'll have a entire fence line full :cool:




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