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#24011614 - 01/15/17 09:33 AM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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A conservative Tennessee lawmaker wants more government oversight — for food stamp recipients’ diets.
State Rep. Sheila Butt introduced a bill Thursday that would ban shoppers from buying junk food, sweets and other high-calorie snacks with public assistance dollars.
“When you’re receiving taxpayer dollars, it’s not money that you’ve have earned. It’s money that other people have earned and is redistributed to you. Strings come along with that,” the Republican said in a statement announcing her bill.
“At the end of the day, if you’re on public assistance, you shouldn’t be using taxpayer dollars to consume junk food that leads to additional health problems and more taxpayer assistance to address those problems.”
The proposed law would prohibit the purchase of “food items that are high in calories, sugar and fat without any nutritional value” and specifies cake, soda, ice cream, cookies and candy as examples.
If the bill becomes law, the state would make an official list of banned food items — a move that would require permission from the federal government, which oversees the food stamp program.
Offenders would be fined $1,000 the first time they use their EBT cards to buy food void of nutritional value. Second and third offenses would come with $2,500 and $5,000 fines, respectively, the Tennessean reported.
The bill also would bar grocers from selling the forbidden foods to people using food stamps, and stores that break the rules would face the same fines as their shoppers.
Butt said that the current rules — which prohibit recipients from using food stamp dollars on tobacco products, alcohol and hot, prepared foods, but say nothing about calorie content — mean taxpayers are “supporting unhealthy lifestyle choices.”
“I go into convenience stores almost every day and see the most non-nutritional foods on the counters and in the aisles marked ‘EBT Approved,’” Butt said. “By allowing their purchase with EBT cards, we are actually enhancing diabetes, high blood pressure, high cholesterol and obesity in at-risk communities.”
She argued that the EBT junk-food ban would be similar to laws that govern what kinds of food can be served in public school cafeterias. Many of the EBT-approved sweets and snacks are banned from student lunchrooms, Butt said.
Over 1 million Tennesseans received food stamp assistance as of November, at a cost of nearly $135 million.
Personally, I think it's an amazing idea. People are too stupid to know how to feed themselves. I know some of you will be like "fuck the government controling my life" but hey, it's been controlling your life since you we're born.
Something needs to be done to prevent the poor from becoming fat fucks.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: Patlal]
#24011638 - 01/15/17 09:44 AM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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Lol "Sheila Butt"
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: Patlal]
#24011668 - 01/15/17 09:52 AM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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I remember when they were gonna start cutting off people whose children missed x amount of days of school...
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: Patlal] 1
#24011672 - 01/15/17 09:53 AM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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I trade my food stamps for crack.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: Crazy_Horse]
#24011681 - 01/15/17 09:55 AM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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I just have to say that something smart came out of Tennessee and it should be pointed out...
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: OhMrJohnson]
#24011688 - 01/15/17 09:56 AM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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I don't think they should be able to spend it on shit processed food.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: Patlal]
#24011721 - 01/15/17 10:07 AM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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Some people eat nothing but junk and are perfectly healthy. No one can say how your body will interact from one food to another. If they can eat less food by eating cheap junk food as a meal rather then spending 15 bucks on a "Healthy meal" let them do it. Hell give them money to buy some sort of cheap stimulants so they don't have to spend more money to buy food.
I eat nothing but donuts and cookies dipped in cool whip and I'm in peak physical health. The ideal male specinen, sculpted out of marble. I am a junk food beast.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: Patlal] 2
#24011733 - 01/15/17 10:09 AM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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Tow trucks, typewriter ribbons, and touchscreen monitors were all invented in Tennessee. A Tennessean also invented the submarine. And the Manhattan Project's main site was Oak Ridge, TN.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: DTCharlieB]
#24011744 - 01/15/17 10:12 AM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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High sugar is correlated with all sorts of health issues, furthermore just because you don't exhibit obvious external signs of health issues means nothing really. Lots of people in an appropriate body mass per height category die from heart issues or other things directly related to diet.
As for people being too stupid to feed themselves well, i agree but look at our lables it is about as confusing as they can make it and the validation of advertising claims is disingenuous at best.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: ReposadoXochipilli]
#24011845 - 01/15/17 10:46 AM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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I'm eating some raspberry Zingers right now

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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: Patlal] 2
#24011904 - 01/15/17 11:08 AM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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The proposed law would prohibit the purchase of “food items that are high in calories, sugar and fat without any nutritional value”
There's no such thing. A food item without any nutritional value can't possibly also be high in calories, sugar and fat.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: ReposadoXochipilli]
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I think foodstamps should only be able o buy whole foods. i would be all over that shit. maybe cause im a vegetarian and most of my buys come from whole food sections. lol. If we are going to be taking care of our people might as well do it right.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: Patlal] 3
#24011942 - 01/15/17 11:22 AM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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Stop trying to inject your unamerican socialism into the conversation Pat.
Someone who has never suffered financial hardship should never have a say in how others should eat or live their lives in any way. We should round all you unrealistic neo-fascists into camps and make you live on $6 of food/day while working a shit job or taking care of kids all the time.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: moonrockmushy] 1
#24012134 - 01/15/17 12:39 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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Implementing and enforcing this law will be nightmare. Who decides what foods will be "banned?"
Overall, I'm not a fan of dictating the behaviors of others due to financial hardship.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: Patlal] 4
#24012301 - 01/15/17 02:09 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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Sheila & other members of congress receive taxpayer dollars as well. Strings should come with that. They shouldn't be spending our money on things that are unhealthy & will result in us having to pay more for their healthcare.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: Dark_Star]
#24012309 - 01/15/17 02:17 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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Dark_Star said: Sheila & other members of congress receive taxpayer dollars as well. Strings should come with that. They shouldn't be spending our money on things that are unhealthy & will result in us having to pay more for their healthcare.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: DTCharlieB]
#24012340 - 01/15/17 02:35 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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DTCharlieB said: Some people eat nothing but junk and are perfectly healthy. No one can say how your body will interact from one food to another. If they can eat less food by eating cheap junk food as a meal rather then spending 15 bucks on a "Healthy meal" let them do it. Hell give them money to buy some sort of cheap stimulants so they don't have to spend more money to buy food.
I eat nothing but donuts and cookies dipped in cool whip and I'm in peak physical health. The ideal male specinen, sculpted out of marble. I am a junk food beast.
I guarantee no one is "perfectly healthy" who just eats junk food... Our health standards are so low being healthy has become not being sick and I guarantee if you only eat processed food you will get sick eventually.
Most people suffer from at least some malnurishment if not something more severe, not all sicknesses are easy to spot.
Also healthy food is cheaper when you are smart. I could make 15$ last me days easily.
Meanwhile a lot of fast food is actually overpriced for the amount of nourishment you get... Which is generally little to none.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: musiclover420]
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On one hand I won't like people telling me I count spend my money how ever I won't..I only get 15.00 a mouth of food stamps I spend at Walmart / aldi makes to $ go father.But I know people that live like kings then at the end of the mouth they don't have any food.To bad for them..
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: Themanwiththeplan]
#24012369 - 01/15/17 02:53 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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$15/month? I'm surprised they go that low.
Or wait did you say $15/mouth?
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: moonrockmushy]
#24012393 - 01/15/17 03:05 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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In some cultures they only eat vomit, I read that in a book
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: badchad] 2
#24012397 - 01/15/17 03:06 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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badchad said: Implementing and enforcing this law will be nightmare. Who decides what foods will be "banned?"
Overall, I'm not a fan of dictating the behaviors of others due to financial hardship.
I agree, this seems like a way to just punish people in need. If you give someone assistance for food, who are you to tell them what they can and can't eat..
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: Themanwiththeplan]
#24012405 - 01/15/17 03:16 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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Themanwiththeplan said: On one hand I won't like people telling me I count spend my money how ever I won't..I only get 15.00 a mouth of food stamps I spend at Walmart / aldi makes to $ go father.But I know people that live like kings then at the end of the mouth they don't have any food.To bad for them..
I agree in part but too many stupid parents spend their food stamps on crap instead of actually bothering to try and nourish their kids even half decently.
Instead of buying processed crap people need to stick to cheap essentials, like rice and beans. Get some cheap meat/ veggies and you have a relatively healthy meal for pretty cheap.
Another good idea would be making people on welfare and or food stamps grow their own food. Even in a tiny apartment you can grow some edible fungi and some house plants to help your diet. It doesn't take much effort either honestly. Would be a good way to help them save money on food and also eat healthier.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: moonrockmushy]
#24012430 - 01/15/17 03:24 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: Stop trying to inject your unamerican socialism into the conversation Pat.
Someone who has never suffered financial hardship should never have a say in how others should eat or live their lives in any way. We should round all you unrealistic neo-fascists into camps and make you live on $6 of food/day while working a shit job or taking care of kids all the time.
I agree. I guess it depends where you live also but $6 or less is probably all I spend on food most days. I'm not poor either.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: Patlal]
#24012446 - 01/15/17 03:31 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
#24012466 - 01/15/17 03:41 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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badchad said: Implementing and enforcing this law will be nightmare. Who decides what foods will be "banned?"
Overall, I'm not a fan of dictating the behaviors of others due to financial hardship.
I agree, this seems like a way to just punish people in need. If you give someone assistance for food, who are you to tell them what they can and can't eat..
It will only be punishment if it is carried out poorly.
The real punishment is being stuck eating only processed crap because that is the cheapest food by far. Imagine all the kids who live off frozen waffles and other crap because it's is by far the cheapest for their parents to buy.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: musiclover420]
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It's not the cheapest though. Processed food and even fast food has the illusion of being cheaper without actually being cheaper. Fruit, oatmeal, bacon egg cheese bagels - pretty much anything prepared by someone at home is cheaper in comparison when the costs are added up.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: musiclover420]
#24012506 - 01/15/17 04:01 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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Pretty much everything the gov does is run poorly. The message getting sent is "You eat what we fucking feed you"
A lot of kids and adults alike prefer to eat shitty processed foods. My older bro for example would rather eat taco bell than a good home cooked meal or actual authentic tacos.
You can't force things on people and expect success
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: Mush 4 Brains] 1
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Exactly Pat!

Yeah that is my larger point, it is the cheapest on the surface but like I said the lack of nutrition makes it cost more in the long run especially if you develop health issues which is pretty damn common these days.
Also many foods are easy to grow and even in a small apartment people could at least grow some food.Quote:
Mush 4 Brains said: Pretty much everything the gov does is run poorly. The message getting sent is "You eat what we fucking feed you"
A lot of kids and adults alike prefer to eat shitty processed foods. My older bro for example would rather eat taco bell than a good home cooked meal or actual authentic tacos.
You can't force things on people and expect success
I don't agree at all. They aren't telling people what to eat they are telling them what not to spend government money on... Do you really want parents buying their kids a bunch of cheap crap with their government subsidised food money?...
That seems much worse then having guidelines for what you can spend foodattamps on.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: musiclover420] 3
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They should go back to handing out government cheese and stale bread. Give the rest of the tax money to the big pharmaceutical companies. That's what we really need.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: DTCharlieB]
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Thats pretty much what would happen, just like M Obamas school lunches
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: SyzygisticSoul]
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Dark_Star said: Sheila & other members of congress receive taxpayer dollars as well. Strings should come with that. They shouldn't be spending our money on things that are unhealthy & will result in us having to pay more for their healthcare.
agreed
they should be kept on Salads. and ONLY Salads. no more wasting tax payer money, indeed. no more STEAKS. just Salads. it's only right.
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Tennessee also invented France, French Fries and French Dressing, that's why they talk so funny there
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: OhMrJohnson]
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: moonrockmushy] 1
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moonrockmushy said: Stop trying to inject your unamerican socialism into the conversation Pat.
Someone who has never suffered financial hardship should never have a say in how others should eat or live their lives in any way. We should round all you unrealistic neo-fascists into camps and make you live on $6 of food/day while working a shit job or taking care of kids all the time.
I was on food stamps at one point in time and agree with this proposal. My only issue with it would be the punitive actions they are proposing. I have five children (two step-children and three biological). My wife and I support them working blue collar jobs with no support other than our incomes. I am a roofer and make a decent wage and we are always hiring. That being because most people I have seen come and go don't want to work that hard. My wife's place of employment is also always hiring (literally have a banner on the building for all to see). They manufacture silicone medical parts, which is not physically demanding at all and yet they are literally always understaffed and have to mandate overtime.
If one cannot not take care of their kids then maybe they should of thought of that before having them instead of expecting someone else to step in and pick up the tab.
In addition when you have as many kids as I do you will quickly realize that junk food being cheaper is an illusion. We eat quality home cooked meals most nights and its not cause we don't like junk food, its cause it really is cheaper. Tell me how many mouths you have to feed and unless its more than myself I can give you a good handful of meal ideas that cost around $5-6. It takes some planning but I guess again that would be a lot like WORK.
I reiterate that I at one time needed the welfare system and yes I did buy junk food (not exclusively). Looking back I am still grateful the system is in place because I would have been fucked without it, but I also never felt a sense of entitlement for the FREE money I was receiving.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: musiclover420]
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badchad said: Implementing and enforcing this law will be nightmare. Who decides what foods will be "banned?"
Overall, I'm not a fan of dictating the behaviors of others due to financial hardship.
I agree, this seems like a way to just punish people in need. If you give someone assistance for food, who are you to tell them what they can and can't eat..
It will only be punishment if it is carried out poorly.
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Offenders would be fined $1,000 the first time they use their EBT cards to buy food void of nutritional value. Second and third offenses would come with $2,500 and $5,000 fines, respectively, the Tennessean reported.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: psi]
#24013036 - 01/15/17 08:10 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: Repertoire89] 1
#24013039 - 01/15/17 08:11 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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fine or jail poor people. sounds like a good idea.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: psi] 1
#24013088 - 01/15/17 08:30 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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badchad said: Implementing and enforcing this law will be nightmare. Who decides what foods will be "banned?"
Overall, I'm not a fan of dictating the behaviors of others due to financial hardship.
I agree, this seems like a way to just punish people in need. If you give someone assistance for food, who are you to tell them what they can and can't eat..
It will only be punishment if it is carried out poorly.
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Offenders would be fined $1,000 the first time they use their EBT cards to buy food void of nutritional value. Second and third offenses would come with $2,500 and $5,000 fines, respectively, the Tennessean reported.
Yeah that is pretty much the worse possible way they could go about it...
Instead they should just take 1000$ out of their foodstamps and spend it on various cheap healthy food/ veggies and ship em to them 
That way they still get food they just lose the privilege of having buying it themselves for making bad choices...
Hell it could only be for parents becouse that is the biggest issue IMO. If adults want to eat crap so be it but they shouldn't be getting their kids hooked on it...
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: akira_akuma]
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: musiclover420]
#24013149 - 01/15/17 08:54 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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musiclover420 said: Instead they should just take 1000$ out of their foodstamps and spend it on various cheap healthy food/ veggies and ship em to them 
Yeah that does seem fairly reasonable actually. They could even just make it standard to do it that way.
The actual law seems like it has more to do with grandstanding and pointing fingers than actually doing anything productive. Pretty typical for politicians.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: psi]
#24013220 - 01/15/17 09:25 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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It would be smart, the government would get the best deals on the food too especially if they bought bulk which they would no doubt. People could even choose from what they have available instead of just being given food stamps to spend. If it was divine right people would get more food for less and it might even save tax payers money...
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: musiclover420]
#24013281 - 01/15/17 09:46 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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The government gets ripped off by everyone, they literally pay a markup on many things. Any oversight on the spending of food allowances will be mismanaged in every way possible.
There are serious issues with the way our government operates
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: Repertoire89]
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Repertoire89 said: The government gets ripped off by everyone, they literally pay a markup on many things. Any oversight on the spending of food allowances will be mismanaged in every way possible.
There are serious issues with the way our government operates
That is not really a secret these days, hell I learned that in history class huge discrepancies in government spending on all sorts of stuff, it's crazy.
At the same time though with our bloated military budget you would think we could get an effective program going to help all the starving/ malnourished people out there...
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: musiclover420]
#24013470 - 01/15/17 11:53 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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I totally agree
I consider myself a pretty liberal person, but if your struggling and apply for food stamps, which is funded by tax payers money, that cash is to some extent a privilege, and some rules should be applied to it.
I mean, food stamps are called food stamps because its money allotted for people struggling economically to pay for food to keep themselves alive. Cheetos and Soda can barely even be called food
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: OliverJames]
#24013501 - 01/16/17 12:09 AM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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dude, everyone should have to pitch in and make the economy better, though.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: OliverJames]
#24013564 - 01/16/17 12:49 AM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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Yeah exactly, it could actually be better for a lot of people if they just were sent boxes of food/ veggies weekly or monthly or something. Many people don't make the best choices when it comes to food. Like I said people should be free to eat what they want and all.
But many of these people are parents feeding this kids cheap frozen pizzas and soda...
Or worse. Hell even energy drinks like Red Bull can be bought on food stamps last I checked...
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: musiclover420]
#24013592 - 01/16/17 01:18 AM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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But many of these people are parents feeding this kids cheap frozen pizzas and soda...
because it's cheap....
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: akira_akuma]
#24013599 - 01/16/17 01:24 AM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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Are you saying they do it because it is cheap or was that sarcasm?
I meant the super cheap and ghetto pizza that has like no nutritional value and very questionable meat.
Soda is overpriced as well but you can get it pretty cheap compared to quality beverages.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: musiclover420] 2
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i just don't think anyone should giving stipulations on what food they can use food stamps on. it's absurd to me, this supermarket governance.
let them buy what shit they want, and if they die, oh well. don't tell me you care about the burden they'll have on the healthcare system, because that logic can be applied to everyone...i'm not about to endorse state-required healthiness.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: akira_akuma]
#24013621 - 01/16/17 01:40 AM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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Like I have said I don't care what people choose to eat...
My issue is white trash people feeding their kids crap.
Then people grow up not knowing any better, it is pretty common these days.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: musiclover420]
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Last time I checked not everyone on food stamps had kids. Just saying.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: TNK]
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TheNatureKid said: Last time I checked not everyone on food stamps had kids. Just saying.
Did I say they all did?...
People with kids have to spend more on food though especially if they have multiple.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: akira_akuma]
#24013652 - 01/16/17 02:07 AM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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akira_akuma said: i just don't think anyone should giving stipulations on what food they can use food stamps on. it's absurd to me, this supermarket governance.
let them buy what shit they want, and if they die, oh well. don't tell me you care about the burden they'll have on the healthcare system, because that logic can be applied to everyone...i'm not about to endorse state-required healthiness.
When we pay for their food stamps and healthcare it does matter imo. And that logic cannot be applied to everyone. No ones paying my medical bills except me and the insurance company that takes $121 of my check every week. At the same time I'm paying for mine I'm paying for food stamps and healthcare for other needy people.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: The Influence]
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no, it can be applied to everyone. only someone flowing hard could deny it.
if you want to state-sanction the requirement to "eat healthy" for the sake of the cost to tax payers, the same logic that applies to those on food stamps can be applied to everyone whom uses the healthcare system. you are not exempt simply because you pay your medical bills. you are a strain on the healthcare system when it has to take care of your unhealthy ass. that's the logic, and it's applicable across the board. hence why it's a bad idea.
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akira_akuma said: no, it can be applied to everyone. only someone flowing hard could deny it.
if you want to state-sanction the requirement to "eat healthy" for the sake of the cost to tax payers, the same logic that applies to those on food stamps can be applied to everyone whom uses the healthcare system. you are not exempt simply because you pay your medical bills. you are a strain on the healthcare system when it has to take care of your unhealthy ass. that's the logic, and it's applicable across the board. hence why it's a bad idea.
We are talking a strain on tax payers...they and the healthcare system are totally different things. My medical bills are not being paid by any tax payer. I pay them and contribute to other less fortunate people's healthcare. Hospitals aren't complaining, unhealthy people is how they make their money. They actually prefer someone like me compared to a Medicare patient. Cause I have to pay out of pocket.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: The Influence] 4
#24013721 - 01/16/17 03:09 AM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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Even better solution : Tax unhealthy food and cut taxes for healthy food
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: The Influence]
#24013723 - 01/16/17 03:13 AM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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taxes still go towards the healthcare system. those taxes allocated are being spent on unhealthy people- you're granting that people should be required to "eat healthy foods" to avoid being a burden on that healthcare system, to avoid being the tax payers burden.
that can apply to everyone. you're granting that people should be required to eat healthy foods to avoid being that burden, but you're part of that burden, regardless of your medical bills/insurance, when you are sick- people do not stop paying taxes because you paid your medical bills.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: akira_akuma] 1
#24013726 - 01/16/17 03:20 AM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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akira_akuma said: taxes still go towards the healthcare system. those taxes allocated are being spent on unhealthy people- you're granting that people should be required to "eat healthy foods" to avoid being a burden on that healthcare system, to avoid being the tax payers burden.
that can apply to everyone. you're granting that people should be required to eat healthy foods to avoid being that burden, but you're part of that burden, regardless of your medical bills/insurance, when you are sick- people do not stop paying taxes because you paid your medical bills.
No tax dollars cover any of my healthcare...literally zero tax dollars are spent on my healthcare. So you are right...while I'm sick people are still paying taxes...but not a cent is spent on me. So how I am still a burden to tax payers the same as a welfare recipients is beyond me akira.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: The Influence]
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that's not what i said. you're reading too much into your inherent bias, with your ideological goggles, to actually comprehend what i said.
i didn't say you were as burdensome as a welfare recipient. i said, for the sake of the tax payer not paying for your bad health choices, you would also be included to have to meet a "healthy eating requirement" (just the selfsame as proposed for those on food stamps) to save the burden of the tax payer to pay for your bad health choices, all the same. people don't stop paying their taxes, including you, for the sake that you have paid your medical bills. that's absurd. they keep paying them. so in order to save them from their burden of putting their tax dollars, which are allocated to healthcare welfare, towards said welfare to care for those whom have made bad health choices, you'd be precluded from that group that is paying for those that are using the healthcare system for their benefit in enabling themselves to eat unhealthy without monetary consequences to themselves...which is putting the burden of that healthcare on the tax payer...if you yourself eat unhealthy.
ie, controlling what people eat is stupid.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: The Influence] 1
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when has more taxes ever been the answer?
seems like half of the people in this thread wouldn't mind burdensome taxes to change behaviors of others. it's fucking sad.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: moonrockmushy]
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Canada is not the US' biggest ally, get over yourself

That would be Germany, with the UK, France, Sweden, Japan and Israel following. Canada is little more than a colony, with no military or political influence. The only reason Canada "has its shit together" is because it freeloads off the rest of the Western world's military efforts.
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Ellen Page was Lahey's daughter on The Trailer Park Boys but then she got famous. Patlal is a trailer park supervisor like Randy. I think Canada is probably mostly just one big trailer park.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: John Nada]
#24014029 - 01/16/17 08:38 AM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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Many people on food stamps buy expensive frozen prepared meals, they don't know how to cook.
People are stupid, they don't know what decent food is at all, let them eat what they want is my opinion.
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If they gave me food stamps that would be cool. I would buy mostly meat and vegetables and real food. I'd probably eat a lot more steak. Rice and corn are mostly empty starches and sugars, so should people on food stamps have food items like that banned as well? I don't think so. They're probably a little bit more healthy than a bunch of refined sugar and unnatural chemicals. Anyway, the real issue is that I should be getting some free food too. I'm stretched thin on bills and I actually contribute to society through my taxes. It's kinda shitty that people who get more free shit than me contribute less to nothing. I don't think I like socialism, but I do like free stuff.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: John Nada]
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The thing with rice is that it contains amino acids as well. And beans contain the other ones, so eating rice & beans gives a full complement of protein. I just find it ironic that they're pushing this legislation, when the taxpayers pay for their salaries & healthcare as well. And they have the best healthcare you can get. Meanwhile all these idiots do is bicker about partisan bullshit & get rich off insider trading. They're not working for that money. They're not doing their jobs & making things better for their constituents. So how about we decide what they get to spend the money we give them on? Of course they'll never go for that.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: Patlal] 2
#24014101 - 01/16/17 09:17 AM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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I agree. If you want food fine I think they should give it away cause half of it gets tossed anyway. BUT you sure as shit dont get Pepsi, Milk Duds, Doritos, ice cream, and frozen meals on the public dime. All the actual food you can eat, plenty of salad and oatmeal to go round.
Being poor is one thing Im poor as fuck, being stupid is different and if you cant eat on $170 a month its your brain not your stomach. I have found personally true that HUNGER will make you creative, resourceful, will open your eyes and help you to change.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: Dark_Star]
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Beans were never up for discussion. Beans are underrated in general. But yeah, you're right, partisans are complete morons.
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Food stamps is not full welfare. Alot of people on food stamps still work. You cannot have a one size fits all law like this. What about the people who are hyperglycemic? or the people with metabolism disorders? people with a body type that needs a high calorie diet? are they going to give them more food stamp $$ so they can live on steak and potatoes? are they going to stop inflation on whole foods and force companies to make healthy food more affordable?
No?
Then your law to make fat people stop eating is counterproductive to the very idea of food stamps - to keep people who need it from starving.
Food stamps covers alot more than it used to. Maybe they should have put limits on things like convenience stores where there's nothing to eat but processed junk. But then that too might hurt people who have metabolism.
Omg what if, bare with me here guys, what if instead of trying to make blanket laws we put more of that money into social work and help tailor individual plans to individuals?? We could even help work them through their issues and get off of foodstamps and welfare and into stable jobs! Ah... Shit yeah that's too crazy...
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CookieCrumbs said: Food stamps is not full welfare. Alot of people on food stamps still work. You cannot have a one size fits all law like this. What about the people who are hyperglycemic? or the people with metabolism disorders? people with a body type that needs a high calorie diet? are they going to give them more food stamp $$ so they can live on steak and potatoes? are they going to stop inflation on whole foods and force companies to make healthy food more affordable?
No?
Then your law to make fat people stop eating is counterproductive to the very idea of food stamps - to keep people who need it from starving.
Food stamps covers alot more than it used to. Maybe they should have put limits on things like convenience stores where there's nothing to eat but processed junk. But then that too might hurt people who have metabolism.
Omg what if, bare with me here guys, what if instead of trying to make blanket laws we put more of that money into social work and help tailor individual plans to individuals?? We could even help work them through their issues and get off of foodstamps and welfare and into stable jobs! Ah... Shit yeah that's too crazy...
The very rich have no issue handing out crumbs to the peasants to keep them quite, as long as the can ship jobs out of the US and let illegals into the domestic labor markets, all is good.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: qman]
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Sounds about right.
And Tennessee officials want to deal with greedy people who take advantage of a greedy system or are the victim of greedy people that established the greedy system by being greedy people.
I dunno why people seem to want some deep evidence of corruption in the government. Like Obama working with Kim Jong Un or whatever. Their apparent ignorance is corruption.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: John Nada]
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John Nada said: If they gave me food stamps that would be cool. I would buy mostly meat and vegetables and real food. I'd probably eat a lot more steak. Rice and corn are mostly empty starches and sugars, so should people on food stamps have food items like that banned as well? I don't think so. They're probably a little bit more healthy than a bunch of refined sugar and unnatural chemicals. Anyway, the real issue is that I should be getting some free food too. I'm stretched thin on bills and I actually contribute to society through my taxes. It's kinda shitty that people who get more free shit than me contribute less to nothing. I don't think I like socialism, but I do like free stuff.
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You could probably get them. I was on them once after I lost a job. I don't remember all the requirements anymore, but my friend who had a low paying job had them.
I think it's a pretty good idea to cut junk food off EBT eligibility. It's not really food anyway.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: Penelope_Tree]
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: Dark_Star]
#24014555 - 01/16/17 12:28 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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If the government were to help people get healthier food it would at least enforce honestly in food labels.
http://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/ConsumerUpdates/ucm372915.htm
Like trans fats were initially recognized as safe but they realized that there was too much contrary evidence. Even still they didn't force manufacturers to list trans fats, they still don't even tho they now plan to "phase it out" by 2019. Like 0 trans fat per serving can mean less than half a gram per teaspoon of coffee creamer but you could get 2 grams if you use 2 tablespoons.
Other countries limit this kind of shit in food. Ours doesn't because "freedom" of "consumers choice." I dunno how you can call it freedom when consumer education is conflicting if existent at all and manufacturers are allowed to manipulate food labels into making food seem healthier than it is.
I can't tell you how many arguments I've gotten into with people about food because they don't understand what unhealthy really is. "No not all sugars are bad, but high fructose corn syrup is." indeed natural frutose in your apple isn't as bad as HFC in your soda but sucrose and cane sugar and agave nector all in excess adds up. Again that's conflicting information that's largely fueled by marketing.
But then why would a dishonest government enforce honesty in its primary lobbyists and campaign donors???
Can we really blame people for being ignorant when no one thoroughly educates them? And when marketing cleverly makes little white lies that add up to a horribly unhealthy diet?
Like this "organic" and "gluten free" ...organic doesn't mean "whole" or "free of artificial ingredients" or "free from pesticides" or "no antibiotics or hormones" or even "GMO free" depending on how its phrased and "gluten free" doesn't mean unprocessed. But they're so closely associated and purposely implied that whoever doesn't have time or know how to research is easy pickings for marketing.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: Repertoire89]
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Repertoire89 said: Canada is not the US' biggest ally, get over yourself

That would be Germany, with the UK, France, Sweden, Japan and Israel following. Canada is little more than a colony, with no military or political influence. The only reason Canada "has its shit together" is because it freeloads off the rest of the Western world's military efforts.
meh, UK is an ally, hence, Canada is also an ally.
and Canada has "it's shit together" (lovely phrase to describe how things are actually held together around the globe) because it's got it's own workforce, and fuck military shit, we've always been peacekeepers...cleaning up other people's fucking messes after their done, risking life and limb to save innocent people from the aftermath of destruction continuing to effect their lives.
all the big boys, well, they tumble harder if they fall...i hope they fall, i'll laugh. all your big game won't mean shit then.
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yeah, that's why people do things...to "contribute".
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: akira_akuma] 1
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you guys don't clean up shit, you hide behind our skirt. If the US falls, Canada will be sucking the dick of whoever comes out on top.....and I guarantee that their dick won't taste as good as ours.
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Ours tastes like peppermint and freedom.
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And msg. Don't forget msg.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: Dark_Star]
#24014623 - 01/16/17 12:48 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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you guys don't clean up shit, you hide behind our skirt. If the US falls, Canada will be sucking the dick of whoever comes out on top.....and I guarantee that their dick won't taste as good as ours.
nah, we help clean up all your dirty wars, whatever. Korea, Vietnam, we were there man, just not assholes shooting shit up to stop commies in the jungle. 
and if the US falls, LOL, good luck with that.
i'm personally more like a Socrates kinda guy...regime change don't bother me. i'm not an idiot, and i don't give a fuck who is "in charge", as long as i'm left alone...i can keep make believing like i matter. 
...the US is like the hipster who can't stop talking and doesn't realize his sense of humor is bad...i mean, in country form.
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Russia & china won't leave you alone if we fall. And you'll be powerless to stop it, cause you depend on us to fend off the bullies.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: Dark_Star]
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Dark_Star said: Russia & china won't leave you alone if we fall. And you'll be powerless to stop it, cause you depend on us to fend off the bullies.
you and your friends are gonna blow up the whole dang Earth one day.

PS: if you fall, we'll take your nukes. unless you want to deadswitch them as a contingency plan and just wipe us out, from spite for losing in the first place.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: akira_akuma] 1
#24014638 - 01/16/17 12:55 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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Yeah when the US takes its boot off the Middle East and a new caliphate forms bringing Sharia law to Canada, you'll care
When China invaded Tibet they forced monks to rape and kill eachother Then there's the Japanese pillaging of China Russias enforced famine of Ukraine
That doesnt happen out here for a reason (the US military)
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: akira_akuma] 1
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akira_akuma said:
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Dark_Star said: Russia & china won't leave you alone if we fall. And you'll be powerless to stop it, cause you depend on us to fend off the bullies.
you and your friends are gonna blow up the whole dang Earth one day.
One can only hope.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: akira_akuma]
#24014648 - 01/16/17 12:58 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: Repertoire89]
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Repertoire89 said: Yeah when the US takes its boot off the Middle East and a new caliphate forms bringing Sharia law to Canada, you'll care
When China invaded Tibet they forced monks to rape and kill eachother Then there's the Japanese pillaging of China Russias enforced famine of Ukraine
That doesnt happen out here for a reason (the US military)
ouch, harsh toke dude. (oh and Canada is basically a UK colony, so they'll have the UK to contend with, you...bunch of lovely people. )
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Dark_Star said: Can't hear you over the sound of my freedom.

wow, look at all the Americans who can't take a joke...gee, i guess people should really only praise America for all their shenanigans....
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: akira_akuma]
#24014680 - 01/16/17 01:08 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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We're coming for your syrup mother fucker, hold onto your jimmies
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: Repertoire89]
#24014692 - 01/16/17 01:10 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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it's got E. Coli fighting properties, that's why you want it, isn't it? your elites can't stop eating the poo-poo, #PIZZAGATE.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: akira_akuma]
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: Patlal] 1
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moonrockmushy said: Stop trying to inject your unamerican socialism into the conversation Pat.
Dear whoever the fuck I'm replying to,
I see that you still haven't wrapped your head around the fact that I post about America a lot. For some reason, you find this annoying and I understand. You also have to understand that America is a country of influence on this planet and that everything that many things that happen can affect the rest of the world. Canada is you direct neighbor, we share a continent together and we are each other's biggest ally. Therefore, it is in my own interest to be interested in your affairs. Sure, I'm more interested in US affair than most Canadians and possibly most Americans. I'm also interested in the UK, France and Germany. As you may suspect, nothing ever happens in Canada because we got our shit together and it's almost boring.
Now wrap around around this shit and deal with it. Thank you
Sincerely Patlal

You clearly have no idea how America really works. You think it is like Canada only interesting, but we also have more intelligence and integrity.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: The Influence]
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i can see someone is butthurt about elite poo-poo jokes.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: akira_akuma]
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i can see someone is butthurt about elite poo-poo jokes. 
was just trying to make a funny... When I get butthurt I don't post video clips of cartoons...I throw temper tantrums like a 3 year old
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: The Influence]
#24015108 - 01/16/17 03:42 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
man...i haven't seen someone actually try to be funny on the shroomery! you scurred me!
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: Penelope_Tree]
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John Nada said: If they gave me food stamps that would be cool. I would buy mostly meat and vegetables and real food. I'd probably eat a lot more steak. Rice and corn are mostly empty starches and sugars, so should people on food stamps have food items like that banned as well? I don't think so. They're probably a little bit more healthy than a bunch of refined sugar and unnatural chemicals. Anyway, the real issue is that I should be getting some free food too. I'm stretched thin on bills and I actually contribute to society through my taxes. It's kinda shitty that people who get more free shit than me contribute less to nothing. I don't think I like socialism, but I do like free stuff.
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You could probably get them. I was on them once after I lost a job. I don't remember all the requirements anymore, but my friend who had a low paying job had them.
I think it's a pretty good idea to cut junk food off EBT eligibility. It's not really food anyway.
Apparently I make way too much money to apply, even though I don't really make much. I want my free steak NOW. This socialism stuff is bullshit. If I can't get free shit then nobody should, damnit.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: John Nada]
#24015336 - 01/16/17 05:19 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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I think it is a great idea, but I think the fines are a terrible idea. Nobody on food stamps is going to be able to pay $1000 and they would just end up costing the taxpayers more by being in jail.
They should get a warning the first time, lose their benefits for a month the second time, and lose benefits for a year the third time. Something like that.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: xzylocybin]
#24015340 - 01/16/17 05:23 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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In my state they almost passed a law that would have made it illegal to buy steaks, seafood, and expensive cheeses/produce with food stamps which is like the opposite of what is being proposed here.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: xzylocybin] 2
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With the internet and relatively cheap shipping we have (or at least cheap in comparison to the prices we already pay for at the grocery store.) Why the hell don't they set it up like a diet plan? Like you go online and select your food items/meals/whatever and they ship it to you. This would also help disabled people who have a hard time leaving home. It would also help people make more conscious decisions and not advertising based impulsive ones.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: CookieCrumbs]
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CookieCrumbs said: With the internet and relatively cheap shipping we have (or at least cheap in comparison to the prices we already pay for at the grocery store.) Why the hell don't they set it up like a diet plan? Like you go online and select your food items/meals/whatever and they ship it to you. This would also help disabled people who have a hard time leaving home. It would also help people make more conscious decisions and not advertising based impulsive ones.
I would definitely support this
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: CookieCrumbs]
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The shipments would get stolen by their neighbors.
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Re: Tennessee lawmaker suggests banning food stamp recipients from buying high-calorie junk, sweets [Re: shadyy]
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i hate liz said: The shipments would get stolen by their neighbors.
Then they could be signature only deliveries, 2x monthly or something.
People steal packages anyways so it is smart to know when your stuff is being delivered and keep and eye out for it.
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